Upcoming Release Train Sim World 4: Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim: Coming Soon!

Absolutely agree, it bangs, rattles, creaks and up at speed has some nice wheel on rail roar. But the 766's sound as if they are floating on top of the track most of the time.

What might clinch it, as I'm on a bit of a Vectron roll at present, is if the 193 got a layer or even its own Journey mode.

But I determined some time ago, for the now going rate of £30, DTG and their associates need to work very hard to impress me the content is worth that much money for one route rather than wait for a sale.

 

If he is available I am certain he will be included. Half term this week so could be on holiday

 

The 193 is very nice but unfortunately it seems that is won’t be available on the route, as the rolling stock is set in 2013.

The 101 will be a layer though which is what I’ll be looking for, but as far as I can tell it’s not an especially busy route for IC’s. Depending on how much I can get out of the 101 will sway the purchase for me.

Personally I’m increasingly bored with the cloned rolling stock on DB routes, a Dosto rake & loco that is the same shape, colour & sounds the same as the rest of them will have a hard fight getting £30 from me these days.

Still, if the rumour that the 111 has its own correct sounds is true, combined with the tap/lever control config, it could shape out to be interesting. Unfortunately the ever decreasing level of effort DTG seem to be putting into rolling stock doesn’t give me much hope.

 

I’d still like to see some old UIC compartment stock in the game along with the original Silberlinge.

And fair point about the Vectron.

Think this will be one to look at come the Christmas sale.

 

Absolutely. I've reached the same conclusion. $40 is not peanuts these days and there's quite a lot on Steam that tugs at my wallet. Syberia and Murder On The Orient Express, both from Microids, have my attention at the moment. And I haven't even started Tramsim or Railroader yet.

Any TSW release will have to be exceptional to prise open my billfold this coming year. The BR 104 and a revamped LIRR are the only ones in my windshield right now.

Sorry to go off- topic.

 

Pretty much how I'm seeing it. There's an outside chance if Rivet impress with Fife Circle but more likely a sale item and the Japanese route still seems a long way off. As much as I like the German routes, I have so many in the collection now some of which barely get played, I do ask DTG what's special about this one to make it a must buy. Probably more tempted by Semmering TBH.

 

Semmering will actually deliver something different, it’s one of few Euro routes I have to wait & see if it’s actually any different.

We have mountain crawler routes & the express regional lines, but no routes that offer both things in one package.

Granted there is voralberg but the mountains are more of a backdrop to a one trick pony regional line.

 

I quite like Vorarlberg but it didn't quite live up to the scenic promise and yes it is largely another bus service with a near silent EMU.

 

The Dostos shouldn't be that quiet. If you drive the one from MSB (hard to tell because there are 6+ different variants of them in the game at this point, which is ridiculous but that's a different topic altogether), the HVAC is on and it sounds great. I'm guessing something broke in the newer models of the dosto cab car starting from the Dresden Riesa DLC from TSW2 rush hour, and since they've just copied the car from that route in particular, it's been silent ever since.

 

I didn’t see any information regarding the stream date.
I’m looking forward to checking this route out.
Many thanks nwp1.

 

Than you dind't search enough.....

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Join the Railfan TV team on YouTube and Twitch on Thursday 22nd February at 1900 UTC for a preview of Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim

 

It was announced not in this thread, but in the announcement forum:
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/week-beginning-february-19th.78845/

The roadmap article did not had this information when it was released at the moment of Dovetail Spring Direct. Since the route has been announced a few days after, they added it into the article later on.

 

That makes no sense.... Little bit searching today is not so difficult right?!

 

Searching yes, but confusion is another topic. I thought you linked the roadmap. Well, too much talking. We should know all when the preview will be streamed by now.

 

Politely answering the original question rather than having a go at them for not searching is not so difficult either.

 

Just having a look at the course of the route on Open Topo map. Looks like this is another Vorarlberg which skirts the foothills rather than running through the actual mountains.

 

2013 is a bit too early for the Vectron

 

Well, duh. Nobody runs a railroad directly through mountains if they can go around them. Especially if it's a heavily trafficked mainline, not a Swiss narrow-gauge. Although to get to Salzburg from Germany- that is, roughly the south side of the Alps from the north side - it does have to get through the Wetterstein range.

 

It's because as far as I'm aware, between Salzburg and Rosenheim/München should not be the big mountains yet.

The Alps are a little more towards south and should probably visible in the render distance, but not directly at the tracks.

There might be a few bigger ones there, though.

The route between Salzburg and München in ETS2 is moreover flat as I remember.

 

According on information I found, Vectron was already available on 2012 on some companies. Railpool by example ordered in 2010. Unfortunately is not mentioned when enter in service. But some operators received units in 2012.

 

You need a college diploma to pick out which Dosto to use, there's so many of them and they all have their own quirks and bugs despite being identical on first glance. Did they ever fix the traction lock on the RT version? And PIS is a game of roulette, some work, some don't.

 

According to this report, the six Raipool Vectrons started service in December 2012, specifically for cross border traffic between germany and austria. So having a Vectron on Salzburg-Rosenheim in 2013 was indeed piossible. No clue they actually drove on that route, but it seems to be possible.

 

The fixed the rapid transit dosto a while ago. Launched with tsw4 and backported onto tsw3 i believe.

 

Duh back at you. Exactly the point I was making. It's going to be another scenically disappointing run like Vorarlberg.

 

Considering the extremely poor rendering of distant mountains in the Vorarlberg route, I wonder if we'll get to see any mountains at all here. At least, at Rosenheim they are quite far away, but still plainly visible in real life of course

I think a console preview stream is warranted, because for some routes I feel showing the PC version is akin to false advertising

 

Thats what i have done.... But okay...

 

I've ridden that line; the mountains around Salzburg are spectacular (haven't you seen The Sound of Music?)

 

Hey i‘m back and I have a question about the DB BR111

can I use the DB 463 Karlsruher Kopf cab with the 111?

 

The layers are not confirmed at the moment but i guess you can't.... But that's my speculation and i love to see this option!

 

I hope this is only a pre-order issue with valve....
https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...recke-salzburg-–-rosenheim.79010/#post-799511

 

1. I Hope It works
2.sounds not good.
3.i hope dtg can handle it

 

I guess the Problem is the DLC, not Valve...

 

I guess they have to deliver the product in a good state otherwise Valve gives not the permission to bring in the preorder. Valve will check the products and they can cancel the preorder if its not on a good quality....

 

While it should be possible, I'm not sure if 111 with n-Wagen services will be included, since the n-Wagen IIRC are all now owned by various local services (S-Bahnen), not DB Fernverkehr. They were designed as commuter coaches, after all.

 

It could be more problematic by the console versions of this DLCs.... The timeslots are way more difficult than by steam.

 

I shall tbear that in mind then! If initial reports of the 111 sound etc. are favourable this might come to my collection sooner than expected.

Did visit Salzburg by train, many many years ago. Trying to remember how I got there. Think I arrived from Villach via Bischofshofen on one of the rather lovely Trans Alpine EMU's. Then back to Innsbruck but think that was via Worgl. Of course back then pre Schveningen you had the curiosity of "corridor" trains, which were effectively internal Austrian services which ran through Germany non stop, but the doors had to be locked as there were no immigration or customs checks entering or leaving Germany.

In Salzburg I stayed in a rather creaky hotel down by the river, some distance outside the city which required a tram ride to get there (or it might have been a bus). I was only there for one night but definitely a city I would like to revisit.

 

Indeed, all br111s build were equipped with KWS (for nWagen), so DTGs version should be capable to run them as well.

In fact, ZWS (to drive with Dostos) was not standard from the start. It eventually was build into the newly build locos as well and retrofitted to most existing br111s. However, to my knowledge you still find some of them out there that don’t have ZWS at all.

 

Well, it only remains to be seen and hope

 

Well, I will not only use the 111 in Salzburg. That's why I'm asking

 

A peculiarity of historical politics put Salzburg (for a very long time an independent prince-bishopric) in Austria, while Berchtesgaden to its south was annexed by Bavaria, creating this odd little appendix hanging off Germany, one that you have to cross going from Salzburg west to Worgl, Innsbruck, the Brenner pass etc.

 

Or dtg decided to pull it to themselves. If valve really tested every product, then there wouldn't be other games that released in a much worser state. If you think tsw is bad, I've seen worse. There's just too many games releasing at once so it wouldn't make sense for valve to test at all. They aren't superhumans after all

 

They not check everything but I can imagine that if you take a risk you don't use it... It could be possible that DTG makes this choice to prevent worse. And we have 7 days to go so time enough and otherwise they cancelled the pre-order and reduce the full price for a short period of time... Many ways to go

 

I don’t think they ever belonged to DB Fernverkehr- more to DB Regio, or am I wrong here?

 

No, this is correct. None were ever with DB Fernverkehr. However, don’t forget that when the 111 was new, there was no DB Fernverkehr, only DB. The 111 was originally ordered for local services, however, were later approved for 160kph (originally only 150) and then used for the slower IC and later also IR services.

 

The point is more there was no DB Fernverkehr in time that this loco was build but in the Bundesbahn time there was no big difference between highspeed and lower speed trains... Most tracks are slower than now days. So IC trains runs mostly 140 or 120 so there was no reason to have a loco that was running faster. Later on the lines are faster

 

There was a difference, not necessarily in speed (in a way, there still isn't), but rather in comfort. Simply put, n-Wagen had all the creature comforts of a city bus; they really weren't for people intending to ride more than an hour. Longer distance services (Eilzüge and Durchzüge) were covered by the m-Wagen (UIC X coaches), which were configured for longer journeys.

Anyway, when DB was sectorized DB Regio took over all the S-Bahn and local services (RB and RE), and they got all the n-Wagen. Fernverkehr got the ICEs, the ICs with their Eurofima coaches, and the Interregios which used (refurbished) m-Wagen.

 

guys, the pre-order was supposed to already be available, anything happened of which I dont know?

edit: nevermind I have just noticed the announcement

 

Yeah of course long distance are more comfortable than short ones so that's no days the same.

 

Must have been quite a party.

 

Nope..."The Day Before" nothing more to add.