Summer Speculation, It’s That Time Again

In all honesty DTG could openly say right now “no” if they know the answer is “no”, no harm done, they’re not guaranteed to do that regardless if it’s true or not however.

Another possible however is they don’t know the answer themselves.

 

Some of my ideas:

-More steam locos (when are we going to get the Big Boy #4014 and FEF-3 #844; also ATSF #3751 and #2926, NKP #765, N&W #611, PM #1225, SP #4449, etc.?)
-More freight routes
-Classic US diesels (FM, Alco, early GE, EMD, Baldwin)
-ET44ACs/C4s
-SD70ACe-T4s
-Siemens Chargers (especially ALC-42s)
-P42DC Genesis (and also P32AC-DM)
-More Santa Fe RR locos/routes
-More Fallen Flags (WP, B&O, SP, D&RGW, PRR, Conrail, C&NW, C&O, Chessie, Seaboard, N&W, NKP, BN, GN, NP, Milwaukee Road, etc.)
-BR Class 50, 55, 57, 60, 69, 67, 70, etc.
-SD90MAC/SD90-43MAC
-SD70MAC
-SD50/SD40E
-SD60/SD60M/SD60MAC
-SD75M/SD75I/CN SD75ACC
-B40-8/B40-8W
-AC6000CW
-More NS Heritage Units (including the Conrail ES44AC)
-CSX Heritage Units (including the Conrail ES44AH)
-Canadian Pacific/CPKC/KCS Route(s)/locos
-Brightline/FEC Route
-SD70M
-C44-9W
-German DB-BR Class 232 "Ludmilla"
-German V200 and 218
-Pacific Surfliner Route
-BNSF/Cascades Route
-Stevens or Marias Pass (BNSF, BN, or GN)

 

They went quiet in the build up to that, and will stay quiet afterwards

 

not for an indefinite time, as of right now all steam work is non existent

 

Are they can you provide a source to this claim please

 

you quoted the source's message (it's me)
it was an assumption by myself

 

So you have no proof of your claim you are just stiring the pot and making stuff up.
Thanks

 

yeah you're welcome

 

I have pondered what the views of companies like Montana Rail Link are towards simulation. It would be a nice part of the country in which to set a route. Or just go retro and do Avery to Drexel on the Milwaukee Road with Little Joe electrics hauling the trains. Would accept a reasonable sound alias and a bit of licence with the accuracy to get that in the game.

 

Tsw2,3,4

 

Where is the subscription service for those versions. Link to them please.

 

Paying for all the newest stuff and to not be left behind. I won’t link them because I’ll be here until tsw7

 

That is NOT a subscription service. Lol

 

If the WCML is a thing I sincerely hope this time that they listen to the masses and actually have a proper termini for it. With the 710 coming with the Goblin, that can add a vital layer if they start the route at Euston which is the obvious thing to do now. Then we could all drive an Avanti West Coast Pendo which I'm certain would make everyone happy. Then further down the "line" London NW Railway 350's could be added as dlc hence resulting in a nice, busy line.

 

I am surprised WCML wasn't one of the core TSW4 routes since it has already been featured twice on new TSC games. DTG seem to like it very much. A voyager as well as a 390 would be great.

Also if DTG opted to go for a trio release, like rush hour but without the engine upgrade, what theme do people reckon they'd do? TSW2 launch was high speed, we've had rush hour. Don't think a freight focus is popular enough for a large summer release. Steam is off the cards for now. Maybe three retro routes (perhaps between 1960 and 1990) across three different countries.

 

Retro routes wont sell as the younger members of the current time dont like to have to work to get a train moving they like the ease of just pushing one handle forward and back.

 

They probably didn't have a license

 

Like the throttle on many BR era diesels

 

I seem to remember the exact same post(s) about TSW 4......

 

That can probably be ruled out. The idea of a summer release is that there’s something for everybody

 

not when you have gears on them to operate they all get lost with them lol

 

Rush hour didn't exactly cover US and UK, freight interests with the base route.

 

neither did it steam or U.K. diesel or German high speed, or different era’s you can’t get everything, just the fact that it covers something for the big 3 is the point, trying to narrow it down to traction is going to make it need more what it can’t be.

 

I do get older routes aren't as popular and usually because a summer release involves 3 routes being developed for a similar release date the kind of care and attention given to BPO may be unrealistic so they may not be done to the same standard and so not be as attractive as BPO.

 

But arguably rush hour narrowed traction down to commuter trains, especially BML. So as long as there is variation in traction and a sprinkling of familiarity it may work. So really as you said as long as it covers the big three, perhaps traction is less relevant just so long as it is new or at the very least the same but looks different.

 

they are often quite big routes but as seen in rush hour, good ideas with quite a bit of flawed execution, how flawed and what is flawed remains to be seen for each route.

 

hopefully a bit more newer rolling stock than rush hour if they ever do another one (all but 1 was reused) apart from that they seem to have quite good ideas as the big 3 route IMO, whether it be freight or passenger i don’t mind, as long as I like the route etc, both is always preferred but the route is the key decider.

 

Maybe they could issue one of each of retro, freight and modern, that should have something for everybody.

 

maybe thats why US freight not more liked ppl want trains that look more like airplanes and run like a plane fast as one ...they dont have the patience to run the slower longer heavier trains i like running the older UK and US diesels more to do and more immersive to me ..i like the modern stuff too just wonder how much of the player age s that play TSW im in my mid to late 50s have been a devoted railfan all my life i would like to see more classic routes and trains in TSW some of the younger folks should be more open to older content the older trains are just as much or more fun than newer stuff try it you might like it as the saying goes

 

maybe DTG should expand and do TSW Classic for gen 9 consoles even pc just have older classic US UK etc routes or even Train sim world US have just US modern and classic trains and routes also have same for UK Eourpe

 

basically too revamp train sim classic some how to come to gen 9 consoles convert more TSC stuff over to TSW esp US content there is decent older us stuff on TSC that i wish could be brought over to at least gen 9 consoles

 

It's not a simple task

 

You might be able to use some of the buildings or scenery assets if the source files are available or you have a secret utility to decompile the TSC proprietary format to Blender, max or whatever. But the route itself would have to be built from scratch which, as those of us who dabbled with the TSW public editor can confirm, is no small task.

 

This wouldn’t be good… I don’t want to see this happen with TSW and you’re right when you say the DLC you buy should be yours forever. A subscription model would not go in DTG’s favour. They know loud and clear from the community on this forum that it’s not wanted nor is it needed.

 

I think a subscription model would see me migrate back to TSC entirely, along with the other train games.

 

I guess a gameplay pack (like new journeys) spanning the core routes is also unlikely, especially since the announcement of the new Metrolink route, I'm not too familiar with that route so I'm unsure if there is anything major missing from it, traction wise.

 

in germany i will see a new remastered route but with a expansion the name of the new route could be Bahnstrecke Leipzig - riesa, and commuter of Leipzig
new rolling stock BR 411 and 415 (ICE T),BR 1442 with new sounds and physics 3-5 (coaches variant) rapid transit could be remastered and get a merge with the new route and dresden riesa a expansion

for UK the ECML south Peterborough >> london Kings cross

the rolling stock

class 387/1,700/1,800s

and BML get a remastered with the class 700s in the timetable

and France yes there was before on TSC i think TS2018 was without USA route and France replace the USA route

is the lgv Rhône-Alpes from Avignon tgv to Lyon St exuperie,part dieu and Lyon perrache the LGV med get a remastered and the rolling stock

TGV réseau bicourant (500)
TGV euroduplex 2N2 3UH-F-A (800 -** -4700) the tgv 2N2 3UA can be add on HMA

 

Sorry to break the bad news, but "Forever own" stopped existing about 5 years ago.

1. If Playstation, XBOX, Steam or Epic servers go offline tomorrow, you lose everything.

2. If Playstation, XBOX, Steam or Epic terminate your license tomorrow (you agreed to the ToS for every store purchase), you lose everything.

3. If Playstation, XBOX, Steam or Epic close your account for any reason, you lose everything.

4. If DTG change the .exe file to prevent game access, you lose everything.

5. If DTG goes bankrupt tomorrow, or is taken over by another company or administrators, and they revoked your license, you lose everything.

Your physical version of the game on DVD and all your DLC content will also become a drinks coaster if Playstation, XBOX, Steam, Epic or DTG disable the online key check or switch off the servers.

Nobody owns their digital game library in 2024. All we have is a licence to play the games, that can be taken away today, tomorrow, next week, whenever.

Welcome to the digital online future.

 

If everyone took that approach then we’d never get any dlc. Don’t be so miserable about it

 

At least three of those are incorrect.

 

Not being miserable, just realistic.

You will always get new games and DLC, so long as DTG remains in business.

If you read the licensing agreements, you'll find I'm correct.

 

the way I see it they would lose out either way license or not, 1 they pull everything they lose everything, 2 afterwards they get sued by a lot of people and a disclaimer isn’t going to save them.

 

But how can you sue a company if it has gone bankrupt, or taken over by another company?

If DTG stopped existing, your contract would be null and void.

And good look taking Microsoft, Sony or Valve to court.

 

On some, yes, but on at least three, no.

 

You can sue anybody or anything whether they have money or not. Even if they're taken over by another company, whoever takes them over is responsible for any debts.

 

Just cause someone is bankrupt doesn’t grant immunity, easy to turn it from civil to criminal.

i wouldn’t have to if they caused the mess we were describing, theirs plenty of ways to win a case especially if the best Defense they have is mere word in a sort of disclaimer, not hard to argue ownership in terms of purchasing.

start with marketing for one example, they often advertise “buy now” find that and go from there for one idea.

worse case scernario for each is I lose a game they lose everything they own.

 

Not really anything else missing after we get the MP36 with San Bernadino. They have a few (5) F59PH's, but they are only really used if something else fails.

 

Just gonna dump here some UK content I want to see for the summer season:

WCML London Euston to MK Central (AWC Class 390 'Pendolino', LNWR Class 350 'Desiro', Freightliner Class 66 'Shed')
Eurostar Double Loco Add-on (Class 374, Class 373)
South Wales Coastal: Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff (GWR Class 43 HST, TFW Class 197, FL Class 70)
Riviera Line 1950's (THIRD PARTY): Paignton to Exeter St. Davids (40XX Castle Class, Class 57XX Pannier)
LU Battery Locomotive (BKL)
Chiltern Main Line: London Marylebone to Banbury (CR Class 68, CL Class 170, CL Class 168)
BR Merchant Navy Class 35028 'Clan Line'
Bluebell Railway: Sheffield Park to East Grinstead (60103 Flying Scotsman, 73082 Camelot, 6989 Wightwick Hall, BR Class 09)
TSW5

 

In theory, minus cloud saves, it wouldn't take long for people to make patches to run the games without steam/epic/xbox launchers if suddenly those providers disappeared overnight. Obviously you'd lose games not installed but yeah, Steam and Xbox are far too big to just suddenly vanish off of the earth unless some apocalyptic stuff happened lol

 

Not true as if a company files for bankruptcy they then don’t have re funds available. And if no company takes them over then where does the money come from. Also once a company has been deemed insolvent That’s the end of the company. To make ANY claim you will have to go through a court. And legally they will owe you nothing as you are not at a financial loss as they do not owe you money. The digital license act comes into play and you won’t have a case.