if I’m honest I’m reading too much Fife Circle lately, 158 going on it - great, but I don’t want every new UK loco to be put on the Fife Circle in all honesty. It’s a nice route but it shouldn’t absorb trains that can instead brighten up other routes that need layers too.
The benefit of Fife Circle is that a fair few mainline diesels can be found there. Granted most of them would need swapping out of their Scotrail configs. It probably won’t be long before dots get connected for the potential 156 DLC (although I do think that one will be a MML release). The thing with Fife Circle is that it’s currently TSW’s most potential route for getting quite a lot of diesels into the UK content.
I would love to see a Class 70 in the game too, they're amazing locos! Now that I think of it, I guess it's possible Colas have agreed to be in the game, because as far as I know Colas have never been mentioned in terms of companies that didn't want to be a part of the game - it was only GBRf and Freightliner that were announced as not being interested... So Colas might have agreed and allowed DTG to use some of their 70s, or any other loco of theirs like 56s or maybe 37s or even their 66s... However, I personally think that a Class 60 would be the best bet, as DTG already have the EWS licence, and it seems as though the have no trouble getting it with how many times the EWS 66 has appeared!
An 800 would be rather disappointing. Personally, I think an 80x loco Pack would be better. It would give you: LNER 800 TPE 802 Lumo (803??) Hull trains 802 And various LNER liveries.
Out of the two a 91 feels more likely. We really don’t need an 800 for this route unless further sections are added
Yes the ECML really needs another loco as the Azuma and 66 don't really do it justice to such a significant mainline. Ok the Scotsman adds a bit of colour but hardly on a day to day basis. A 91 would add some real variety to fast journeys either to drive or to meet as ai. I would like to see other operators than LNER on this route too if possible. By the sounds of it Fife Circle is going to have quite a nice bit of variety, albeit with just the one operator. This is something I'd like to see reproduced elsewhere. SEHS is a good template for variety, London Commuter could have been with the addition of Thameslink if DTG hadn't bottled it. Fortunately pc players had the fine work of modders to fill the gap.
I would be surprised if its not the 91 it's been highly requested for a while now let's hope it is or a new freight loco
Overall I definitely believe that a 91 is coming at some point with how much demand there is for it. However as I pointed out previously, Alex pointed to thus loco pack specifically in reference to a new freight locomotive that isn't the Class 66, so I feel more confident on that being the case here.
I'd be happy with either a 91, or a good new freight loco. If it's something like a 380 I'll be very disappointed.
I doubt it would be a 380, though can’t say it’s the worst option considering the 91 is a bit of a want making it near a dream for me and others, what in fairness may be clouding some judgement freight loco be a good option aswell would probably like a 380 at some point so I’ll take it later or sooner, if I have a route for it that is (once I’m back buying dlc)
Does the 91 do freight runs on ECML? Could we be getting the 91 in a couple of different versions of LNER + a freight livery?
Has anybody else noticed that for some reason on MML, the Mk3 coaches are spawning with numbers 43238, 43257, 43272 and 43299? This is obviously a bug but having done a bit of googling, these are HST powercars that have previously been used by LNER.
Too similar to the 385 which we already have. I'm not a fan of EMU's with the connecting door in the nose, I think they're ugly, and that includes my local 377, the 378 looks so much better.
If I'm not mistaken, it is part of the InterCity 225, connected to the carriages. They were designed to haul passenger services not freight, hence they are not freight locos. Whether they would be able to carry freight or not is irrelevant.
Back when they were built they were actually seen to be able to be used on overnight sleepers and freight however the overnight sleepers disappeared, and as far as I recall they were never actually used on the freight. They aren't tied to the MK4s permanently though and when first introduced hauled other MKs of coaches with class 43s as 'DVTs' before MK4s and DVTs were built.
It is, it’s got a bit of a similar exterior look to it as the 91 but you wouldn’t be able to get the 90 out of the 91 for TSW or real life if the 91 arrives in TSW it will be passenger only.
The Europheonix 91s were intended for freight operations likely as an Eastern European export, but this has not happened. It isn't relevant for a Class 91 DLC for TSW (which I doubt is happening anyway) but an interesting fact nevertheless.
I almost forgot ROG had a 91! I saw it in the Crewe Heritage Centre while it was being sanded down for a repaint into the InterCity livery! Sadly I've not seen it in the new livery yet, definitely want to see it though!
For everyone wanting a 91. Remember you need a full Mk4 rake along with the Mk4 DVT and cab modeled too. It's alot more than just a loco like say a class 68.
What about a 156 for MML? It could be reskinned in the same way the 158 was for fife circle, and for AI on the other Scottish routes (156s rarely go to edinburgh anymore but it would increase variety at least
I'd like a 156 too which would add some more much-needed variety and, as you say, not just for MML but others too like ECML (my 156 picture below is at Peterborough). Picture taken by me
I hope the new loco is a Class 139 Parry People Mover. Highly requested by many. Would be great to use on ECML for high speed services etc
I was thinking of purchasing Maintalbahn so I watched the trailer. In that trailer they use the same desirable tag that Matt used earlier in this thread. That game uses a Desiro. So I think i’m 90 sure we are getting some kind of Desiro that layers onto a current route.
I'd second that! I was always a bit perplexed that Skyhook chose the 158 over the 156, as up until the transfer to EMR and the arrival of Turbostars 156s were far more common on the Leicester- Lincoln services. My only theory is that they wanted to differentiate it from the disaster that is Rivet's existing 150. I'm not too upset though, because they did a great job with the 158 and I personally think it's the best UK multiple unit in the game. That being said my first choice would always be the IC225. I think it's one of the few trains that would satisfy fans of both modern and classic traction. I rarely drive freight in TSW so I'm not too passionate about a new freight loco, however even I would be happy to see a 60 in the game. Not a 70 though because I don't want to vomit every time I boot up the game. They're great locos I'm sure but I think they're probably the ugliest trains in the UK. It's concerning how much this thread is hyperfixating on the use of the word "desirable". Like it's not just generic PR language to get people excited. The 380 would be such a bizarre addition. Cathcart doesn't need a new train, and I can't see a unit like the 380 being added without it's own route. It just doesn't have enough standalone value for people to be interested in it. I suppose DTG have done dumber stuff though... Here's a sillier suggestion- add the 185 to Northern Trans Pennine as a reverse version of Diesel Legends. The 185 is part of the Desiro family, and is probably the most interesting member of that family simply by being a diesel.
For freight it's the Blunt end for IC225 that must be run first check the first replies on this UK railway forums. Do that to the MK4s with Blunt end on IC225 you're subjected to 110 mph 180kmh speed restriction
Or the Class 68 loco hauled consists which I think TPE have now ditched. Centre feature would be the one named Felix, after the famous Huddersfield station cat who sadly passed away a couple of months ago.
Getting a 68 would be pretty cool, we've had the DRS license for the 66 so I'd imagine DRS would be happy to give it again.. hopefully anyway! Would be nice to see the TPE Nova3 set but I don't think it would be used on many routes in the game so it'll pretty much guaranteed be for freight.. which I'm fine with! I didn't know that about Felix, it's got a nice little backstory to it! I've managed to see it once before thankfully - it was on a light loco move at Crewe, it was the first 68 of theirs I saw!
I don't think they ever turned a wheel in anger for ROG, From what I remember they were earmarked for international markets like 86s and 87s but it never happened. Two were stabled at Leicester depot for months.
Thinking about it a new freight loco would be a heck of a lot less work than a Class 91 set. We know from experience that DTG and co like to take the path of least resistance! I reckon a 91 would sell like hotcakes if they did make the effort, and bring ECML to life, but if it is to be a freighter I’d like a Class 67.
Oh that's a shame, doesn't look like it'll get any use while it's now with the CHC either, as awesome as it'd be.... It's always a shame to hear about trains that were never used.. :/
I feel like the 91 will definitely come but maybe not just yet... 67s would be great but in reality they don't do much of any freight work, the only moves I know of being ones where it'd be taking some wagons for repairs or to another yard if the yard was short on wagons, so I don't think a 67 would be the best of choices unless they're gonna do a 67 railtour pack... a 68, 70, 60 or maybe a 56 would be the best in my opinion, my personal preference being the Class 70.
68s would be great to have as they are beasts which do sound very, very nice. 67s, however, I never particularly liked or got on with them personally.
