Enough Is Enough!!!

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  1. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    It has irregularity SLIDER????
     
  2. OldVern

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    Yes indeed! Looking forward to trying that. At the moment just getting everything set up so I can jump in and start driving.
     
  3. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Either a detailed in game tutorial or a manual explaining everything. It's why I no longer play sims such as hmmsim which has a really basic tutorial page but no actual in game tutorial so you have to figure things out on your own. I want to know how to operate a loco.

    Simrail also lacks in tutorials or the tutorials aren't great. I remember during the open beta, some trains didn't have tutorials which meant I had to go in blind. One tutorial was even bugged and I couldn't progress and documentation was hard to find online so I would spawn into the loco and have no idea why it's not working by just moving the throttle
     
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  4. noir

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    Controlling trains in zusi is exactly the same as in TSW or simrail, there is nothing on top or done differently. I have actually the same bindings there as in simrail, because I like the numpad controls.

    It's just the UI that looks complicated or unintuitive, because it was not meant as a game, so it controls like a software, and not like a game. So instead of visual main menu with pictures of trains and background music, you have good old File menu on top where you select things.
     
  5. eldomtom2

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    And the startup procedures, etc.?
     
  6. noir

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    There are no startup procedures as far as I know.
     
  7. eldomtom2

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    Really? You just release the brake, open the throttle, and go?
     
  8. Jpantera

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    Thing with Zusi is that although it lacks the eye candy of TSW and others it actually is hands down the most realistic. Trains can be rerouted, signals can fail and trains can randomly start late or pick up delay enroute. Why its accepted to have green light runs across the board in TSW is beyond me.
     
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  9. OldVern

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    It's going really well and very much enjoying the driving experience. Some great routes and loads of motive power to try out.

    Only thing I need to figure out, as you can't save a run, is how yu can jump to a subsequent station on the same train and pick it up from there.
     
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    9542e208-f913-4fcf-882b-53866fcd8060.jpeg If you know, you know... Sorry not sorry
     
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  11. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    Only reason I would agree with this is cause DTG lacks the proper effort into US content. Though they are close on the passenger side as far as stock. Scenery wise its a big letdown.

    Wonder how many sunken buildings, floating cars, ugly roads, missing POI's are gonna appear on the new Metrolink route....
     
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  12. Indege

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    These are all bugs on every route DTG produces. If we are being real they simply cant be asked. Theres no budget restrictions which stops them from adding a POI or releasing buggy LOVE. Dont buy their stuff and then and ONLY then will they start to listen to their community. We pay them not the other way round however they are so money orientated instead of confronting their community when DLC or route sales are low they instead put it on sale for 20% off
     
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  13. noir

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    I have never used it, but there is a feature to jump into another train in the simulation. So you can probably just find a train that starts around the time you want and then jump into the other one. But note that because the whole timetable is instrumented every time from the beginning, today your train may be delayed and found elsewhere.
    Or you can just put it on autopilot and fast forward until it is where you want it.
     
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  14. OldVern

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    Brilliant, thanks for that. Any further Zusi chat I’ll drop in Off Topic as I don’t want to derail the thread or attract unwanted attention from the mods.
     
  15. 10A _Driver

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    You must be joking Vern?
    The thread got derailed on page 4 or there abouts. :D
     
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  16. deeuu#6908

    deeuu#6908 Well-Known Member

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    I was playing the remastered WSR, and actually having a decent time with the journey mode.........until I got the the chapter where, you can't actually reach the objective marker, and thus trigger the progress, without going through a red light, SPAD, game over.

    Quality.
     
  17. BRD

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    If you're playing on PC, in worst case scenario, you could use God Mode mod, use the game console and use the command to not end the scenario for SPADing. :D
    I haven't got the possibility to check it right now, but there's such a cvar / command for that.
     
  18. deeuu#6908

    deeuu#6908 Well-Known Member

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    Console, gamepass, ain't no way I'm paying money for this [EDIT - Jan - Language] lol
     
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  19. BRD

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    What chapter would that be?
     
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    deeuu#6908 Well-Known Member

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    The one with the Class 09 starting at Bishop's Lydeard, I've tried it twice now, same thing.
     
  22. Pipe

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    I'll have a go on this one. Maybe there's a crazy workaround. Hehe, finding these is becoming a sportive event in TSW.

    But to be fair: I think the remastered WSR is - visibly - a nice piece of love and dedication. And for free.
     
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  23. deeuu#6908

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    I agree, it is, but that issue, as what happens a lot with this piece of software, completely took the sheen off it.

    FWIW, I stopped at the station before the red light, and kept edging up to it to try and get the objective to trigger, I couldn't get it to trigger without SPAD'ing.
     
  24. Munkustrap

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    Guys, let's wait until Simrail comes to Xbox. This will be the end of TSW in its current form. There are two options, either they will get to work when they see how professionals from a competing company do it (they produce real railway simulators) or they will be left alone with new versions every year and a group of fanboys. Just like EA sports.
     
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  25. eldomtom2

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    Well, we'll see if Simrail can live up to its promises on things like singleplayer content and steam simulation first...
     
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  26. Munkustrap

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    I hope they will do everything we need and we will have competition in the market.
     
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  27. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

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    if Sim rail does some good US freight im in i..since DTG s US freight train isnt making the grade 2 new routes that mostly passenger in a country where freight is more dominant
     
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  28. sam5166

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    Even though SimRail has potential, it won't be the end of TSW. It is good that we finally have some sort of competition in this market though
     
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  29. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    End of tsw is quite an exaggeration. Simrail lacks in many ways and it still has a long way to go until it can actually compete with tsw in terms of singleplayer content. If you want mp, go play simrail sure but if you want to play alone without online functionality, there's barely anything for you other than a couple scenarios which you also can't save either
     
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  30. pinxtonpaws

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    I think it's more on the lines that they're shovelling it out early so it can be added to 2023-2024 revenues before the April cutoff arrives but still need to ensure that it reaches "the highest quality experience" (which is DTG lingo for "it'll do") to give themselves a sporting chance people will actually buy it.

    Oh, and continuing on from DTG's recent 'everything must go to make ends meet' sales, Catan is free to play this weekend on XBox and on sale at a very tempting £6 should you feel the need to buy it after the trial expires.
     
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  31. Spikee1975

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    Another one. This game is out of control, the devs have lost it completely. That's "highest quality experience". Compared to all other train sims out there, TSW is the ultimate bugfest (with the best PR machinery though) where nothing works, and, what's unforgivable, they don't learn from their own mistakes. Still they manage to keep the customers hungry for ever new DLC, so don't expect anything to change.

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  32. stujoy

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    They are tinkering behind the scenes and breaking lots of things graphics wise and beyond. None of the changes causing the breakages are in patch notes so it’s hard to know what to look out for. It only takes someone observant to load an old train or old route for these new bugs to jump out. It’s not even easy for us to work out what update caused what issue as time passes and most updates at the moment are usually followed by a couple of extra fast updates to fix something significant that got broken in the first one. How many attempts did they have recently to put out a fully working HUD when an update to one aspect of it broke something else?

    I don’t think anyone at DTG has full oversight of everything that’s being done by the devs.
     
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  33. SGTDRE

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    My daughter showed that in a video that showed the modified ini settings from Jetwash before it was changed to Godmode.sav, the link to the mod has been updated.

    But yes this is very true...
    I watched some of the stream earlier today "TSW4 Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim" and grabbed a few screenshots.
    The gauge lights are actually on, granted the way YT compresses the video does not help matters, on top of a lower quality setting when streaming, but it should at least show some lights are on.
    --The horn sounds like a little clown car, with a little searching I found this one video of an actual DB Br 111, would have liked to find a better one.


    gauge likes?
    Train Sim World 4 Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim Preview gauge Lights on.jpg
    Not many showing in the stream at the time that is or those watching at the time, interest in the poll was Very low
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    Very bright
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    As for getting the latest DLC at the current price of $36.00 and that is 10% off, I will have to think long & hard about it, and on top of that one scenario was removed and may or not be out at a later date.
    As it is now with only 4 Scenarios and a bunch of layers, the sounds are based on the in-game Br110...
    https://steamdb.info/sub/927690/
    SPECIAL PROMOTION! Offer ends February 27
     
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  34. rennekton#1349

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    It is a mix of 111 and 110 sounds. Dtg or tsg who usually helps with all german content probably didn't have or couldn't get all the sounds from a 111. It does sound slightly different in the cab. The initial sounds are similar, but there is a difference
     
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    I'm not surprised at that, but yet I thought that taking into account that there are plenty of German trains and routes already in-game, they would have had at least some access to get some if not many of the sounds, they have the licenses or they would not have made this newest DLC.

    There are more ways to get the sounds recorded without having to go all over the country, but I digress.
     
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  36. rennekton#1349

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    If they are given permission to be able to access a loco and get sounds and a big plus if they can get it running on the mainline. Getting professional sound recordings is a lot of planning even if they find someone who could record for them.
     
  37. Monder

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    If I was in that position, I would instantly try subjects like RailAdventure. Small enough to be possibly willing to help (perhaps in return have their trains featured in the game), they have both 111 and 103 and they run on mainline frequently. Where there's a will, there's a way.
     
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  38. stujoy

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    The amazing assumption that DTG can get access to any train they like for a full recording session. The equally amazing assumption that if only they were tasked with the job of procuring the sounds that members here would succeed where DTG have not. I have no doubt that perhaps someone may be successful on occasion but for all of the hundreds of trains likely to come to TSW then perhaps it is a bit far fetched to think in such a way. Perhaps DTG could do better but I wouldn’t assume they could become so good at asking the question that they would always get a yes or that anyone else could do so much better across the board.
     
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  39. solicitr

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    As long as Simrail remains multiplayer only, there is a huge market that won't touch it.
     
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  40. SGTDRE

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    Ya took the words out of my mouth, Yes I do believe if the desire was there, it could be done, itsya165 has done it and is not being paid to make better-sounding train mods.

    They "DTG" has made the statement a few times in their live streams about how they were able to get the actual train sounds, I don't see why not with this or any other train.
     
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    It doesn't happen every single time. That's just real life for you. There are many trains dtg weren't allowed to get access to
     
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    Something more specific like the GP9rm might be on the hard side to acquire sounds for. But the likes of SD40-2's, GP38-2's, and GEVO's aren't rare power, they're pretty much everywhere. Basically every decent sized railroad have versions of those three locomotives on their roster. I find it hard to believe that DTG can get access to a Stanier 8F and decent archived recordings of a 4F, but can't get/find recordings for a SD40-2 or ES44AC.
     
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  43. OldVern

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    It certainly doesn’t seem to hold back other sims. For GM’s happy for a bit of aliasing, just don’t end up with an Alco sounding like a F7.
     
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  44. rennekton#1349

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    Because not all railway companies are the same and not everyone can give permission to record. Dtg can't just show up to a us freight yard and be like give us a train. The operators for the 8f and jubilee were much more open.

    By the way, they had gevo recordings from the past which is why they could create a decent sounding train. But freight companies are still restrictive and don't allow recordings as much as passenger operators do
     
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    They're having trouble with US content. That's the simple answer.
     
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    A bit OT from what the conversation is going on about, but how difficult are GBRf to work with? From what I've heard, they are quite enthusiast-friendly (albeit a bit less so more recently), but have they also stated they have no interest in working with DTG? Would be nice if they are up for it. Love their new 69 livery too.
     
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    It's interesting that no DTG DLC has ever had GBRF branding (although they - well, RSDL - have released unbranded GBRF trains), although JustTrains have. JT also had the Virgin license long before DTG, but never got one for EWS/DB and so had the weird FWS and BB branding which looked stupid.
     
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    It is especially crazy when they don't get the interior sounds of EMUs... like... just ride it like a passenger with a microphone on.
     
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  49. bartolomaeusz

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    This conversation is sound
     
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    your profile picture even more.

    matinakbary how is this helpful in any way though?
     
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