Out Now Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim - Out Now!

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  1. dtg_jan

    dtg_jan Community Manager Staff Member

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    Good morning everyone,

    Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim releases today, read all about it in our Dovetail Live article here: https://live.dovetailgames.com/live...rticle/bahnstrecke-salzburg-rosenheim-out-now

    Train Sim World 4: Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim route Add-on is out now for Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5 and later today for Epic Games Store, and Steam for €35.99/£29.99/$39.99


    Dramatic mountains, cross-border action and a classic tap-changer locomotive all arrive today with Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim!

    Scenarios Update

    You may have seen earlier this week that we had identified a few issues with Scenarios on the route which affected the pre-order period for Steam players.

    We are pleased to report that the issues, related to completing Scenarios, have been resolved. Players on Steam and Epic will be able to play all 5 Scenarios from launch.

    PlayStation and Xbox players should receive an update later today, which will add in the fifth scenario for the route.

    The Route: Salzburg – Rosenheim
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    With origins from as early as 1828, the Rosenheim – Salzburg railway has ferried passengers and freight through Bavaria and across into Austria for many decades. Fast forward to 2013, when this route Add-on is set, and these services are being hauled by electric locomotives of varying types.

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    In the distance, the landscape is overlooked by mountainous terrain which has been worked on by our environment teams to create a beautiful backdrop for the stations along the line, together with architecture that’s representative of the local Bavarian culture. Along the line side, players will need to hunt down trees that need cutting up and forming into log piles as part of this release’s route collectibles.

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    Our launch trailer already hints at Salzburg’s most famous musician, with the city being the birthplace of Mozart and being a filming location for The Sound Of Music. A number of stations in this important Austria city lie within its limits, including the Salzburg Liefering station which at the time was still under construction.

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    Salzburg Hbf is populated with trains from Austrian operator ÖBB, as well as the visiting DB trains, making for a truly multi-national atmosphere. As with other Train Sim World 4 routes, there are some populated shops and cafes within the station, dioramas of workers discussing construction and in this route Add-on there are even working lifts for players to use as they get around.


    Locomotives, Rolling Stock and base timetable

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    Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim can be experienced in a number of ways with three forms of traction included in the route Add-on. These include:

    (NEW) DB BR 111
    – An electric locomotive from the 1970s that is still used today, featuring tap-changer controls and a distinctive horn. Eastbound services from Rosenheim to Salzburg have the DB BR 111 leading the train.

    Gen 4 Dosto coaches – heading up push-pull westbound services out of Salzburg towards Rosenheim.

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    DB BR 185.2 - A modern electric locomotive rostered for freight duty with Habbiins and Sggmrss Wagons. These mostly run end-to-end services, with other freight stock substituting some services for players than own other route Add-ons.

    ÖBB 4024 Talent 1 – An EMU run by Austrian operator ÖBB for local services in and out of Salzburg Hbf. These run between Salzburg and Freilassing to off-world destinations including: Schwarzach-St.Veit, Golling-Abtenau, Saalfelden, Wels, Bad Reichenhall, and Berchtesgaden.


    Additional Service Layers
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    Additional playable and AI timetable services appear for players that own other German route and locomotive Add-ons. These include:
    • DB BR 628.2, in red DB livery (Niddertalbahn required) - these come from off-world locations such as Landshut or Mühldorf to operate between Freilassing and Salzburg or from Waging to operate between Hufschlag and Traunstein.
    • DB BR 101 loco Add-on – these operate IC, EC, EN and CNL services using the 101 and IC coaches.
    • DB BR 103 rail tour with heritage InterCity train (Linke Rheinstrecke required)
    • Railpool BR 193 Vectron and Eanos Wagon
    • DB BR 363, in red DB livery (loco Add-on required)

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    Further AI and Static services from other Train Sim World Add-ons consist of the following:
    • DB BR 628.2 can be seen at Freilassing, Traunstein, Prien and Rosenheim
    • DB BR 425 at Traunstein
    • ICE 3 can be seen at Bahnhof Rosenheim

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    At Freilassing, a number of static museum exhibits for players with Linke Rheinstrecke or Ruhr Sieg Nord can be seen, including:
    • DB BR 103 which will appear between the months of March to August
    • DB BR 110 which will appear between the months of December to February
    • DB BR 155 which will appear between the months of September to November
    In anticipation of the forthcoming Semmeringbahn: Wiener Neustadt – Mürzzuschlag route Add-on there will also be 4 playable EC services that use the ÖBB 1116 electric locomotive and coaches for players that own that route. These coaches will also be seen as static stock at Salzburg Hbf.

    If you missed our preview stream, head over to Twitch and YouTube and join the Railfan TV Team to see Train Sim World 4: Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim in action.

     
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  2. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    not sure but didn't the 3rd Gen Dostos ran on this route in 2013? where 'em at?
     
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  3. hypospray

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    From the dovetail release article:

    .....In the distance, the landscape is overlooked by mountainous terrain which has been worked on by our environment teams to create a beautiful backdrop for the stations along the line......

    Is it this time true for Xbox Series X consoles as well, or is it same sort of false advertising we had for the Vorarlberg route whre mountains popin literally 100 meters away from the track, making it almost the most ugly route landscape wise.
    Every preview stream is done on PC and Console user dont know what they buy until they actually bought and run it.
     
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  4. DB628

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    The First Talent Journey 5058 is unplayable because The Pantograph is missing and the PIS don’t working on the Stations
     
  5. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    There is/will be plenty of gameplay on Youtube. You can always wait and have a look until the first videos are up for your console.
     
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  6. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    It's as simple as they just didn't make it and you have to live with it :)
     
  7. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yeah yeah you say that. but I don't. DTG could've put little more effort into giving us more rolling stock. they did the same for Semmeringbahn, new IC coaches...
     
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    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    Only 4th Gen Dostos ran on that route, so it's absolutely realistic.
     
  9. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    well thats good then
     
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  10. madmatt213

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    I won’t be buying the route on console, but from what Matt discussed, the mountains in this route are essentially the skybox, not 3D terrain that would be susceptible to scenery pop-in like other mountainous routes. So because of that I would assume that the mountains here would be visible at all times on even the 8th Gen consoles.
     
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    Missed that info on Matts stream. Thank you.
     
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    For additional timetable services or because of BR 363 + Eanos shunting activities?
    Are there any other shunting activities than these with Eanos involved?
    From HRR DLC?
    From which DLC?

    BR o7
     
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    assuming DTG always uses the latest variant for best compatibility, the one from BRO. which also means it's KWG for the ICE 3
     
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    I hope You are wrong because of eventually necessary purchases (BRO) for some people.
    HRR is a quasi-requirement for 101 so let's hope the static/scenery one (425) is from there.
    ICE 3, I think You are right ;)
     
  15. Spikee1975

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    BR 07 ?
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  16. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    o7 is an emoji salute, basically o the head and 7 the arm and hand. BR are the first 2 letters of his username. together it forms a, guess what, signature
     
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  17. breblimator

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    close one except the Best Regards ;)
     
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  18. Myron

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    ahh well still close ;)
     
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  19. Spikee1975

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    Welcome back btw :)
     
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  20. ffabio89

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    How's the line? It worth a buy or not? I can't decide now...
     
  21. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    do you like german/austrian trains and stations? do you like just enjoying it? driving? it is worth it.

    are you extremely judging about pretty much anything? forget it then
     
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  22. andrewandjane66

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    Sorry to be "That Guy" but is there a discount now that the base game is back on Game Pass. Not unusual that nothing is showing at the moment, but I haven't seen a discount mentioned anywhere.
     
  23. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    In the past, it took a few days for the game pass discount to apply, so I guess keep waiting?
     
  24. andrewandjane66

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    That's the plan!
     
  25. Observadorpt

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    Hi

    1 more time console players dont have any launch discount like steam have.
     
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    I don't think they can have one
     
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    No, we don't have one.
     
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    DTG Alex Bug Report Rosenheim - Salzburg

    On the whole one of the best routes, but I only had to discover a few very annoying bugs on the first journey.

    Once again it's the double-decker carriages that are affected, how could it be otherwise? This time the sounds for opening and closing the doors are only played on a whim!

    The FIS of the driving trailer has the habit of switching itself off during the journey. Finally get this under control. It's not the first time and other Dostos have had the same problem since TSW3!

    Then you made a big mistake with the railway announcement at Teisendorf station, because you can still hear station announcements on the open track 9.8 kilometres before Freilassing, even though it feels like you're already 2 kilometres away!

    Please fix this!

    Greetings Manny!
     
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  29. TimTri

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    Any updates on this? I sure hope it layers in from HRR! (Unless there’s something specific about the BRO version that makes it more realistic/appropriate)
     
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  30. breblimator

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    I am still fighting trying not to buy the route and check ;)

    I am waiting for Schnauzafpowahz to make a video about it \o/
    Better to spend some $ than PLN :D
     
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  31. Spikee1975

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    You should use the official Feedback thread from now on for reporting issues :)
     
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  32. pascal.weick

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    A few things about the BR111
    I think its stupid that we can't go into the engine room and also that we can't at least switch on the engine room lights. But one positive thing that i noticed is that this might be the first loco where the MCB also visibly works. You can see it on the roof when its open or closed. I can't remember seeing this on any other loco. So its mostly a good loco but the things with the engine room and the engine room lights is wasted potential to me. I also don't understand why are we having turntables with overhead wires when we can't use them. You can't even go to the turntable controls and you don't get any current from the overhead wires there. That's just ridiculous...
     
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  33. duki

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    Can't believe Dtg uses the upcoming ÖBB 1116 just for 4 EC Service. Kind of a wast of opportunities and not realistic as it's so common here.. please add more
     
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  34. Tom Fresco

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    ???
    There are already EC services with the 101 and German IC stock, i guess the 4 ECs are the only ones operated by austrian stock. So they arent more to do besides railjet, but maybe they keep them out of the Timetable.
     
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    Can confirm this audio bug and have reported it in the feedback track. Kinda weird, indeed.

    Salzburg – Rosenheim - Feedback Thread
     
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    Thank you for the report - I've logged this on our tracking system for our dev teams to investigate
     
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  37. Rutgerski

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    Bit annoying that the 10% Game Pass reduction is not active yet.
     
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    was there ever supposed to be one in the first place?
     
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    Yes, everything in TSW is 10% off if you have Game Pass (Ultimate?). It's just that whenever there's a new route, it takes a couple of days before it's activated :/
     
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    well there's your explanation.
     
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    Oh I didn't need an explanation, just voicing my irritation at the situation :) Other newly released games do get their discount from the start, so yeah it's a shame
     
  42. andrewandjane66

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    The Game Pass discount is now live.
     
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  43. duki

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    What about the ??? Before sending me ???, please inform yourself.

    The ÖBB trains on this route in 2013 (according to vagonweb):
    • EC 5
    • EN 4
    • IC 16
    • RJ 29
    Apart from the RJ services each of them could do an ÖBB 1116 with Bmz. If you want to have a bit more traffic, DTG could also do the RJ Services with just the 1116.
    In reallife this is a major route for austrian trains from Salzburg to Tyrol, so they should be more visible in TSW.

    I have to admit, non of the öbb trains stop in Rosenheim. Anyway for gameplay reasons I would like to see them stop there to get playable services.
     
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  44. solicitr

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    IIRC, on the Munich-Rosenheim-Salzburg-Vienna run, ICs and ECs are equivalent trains, but the former are DB and the latter OBB.

    (Historically, the Eurocity system replaced the defunct TEE on services that weren't being covered by the new bullet trains. The Intercity however already existed as DB's "domestic TEE.")
     
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    Hm, i dont think you can say IC=DB stock EC=ÖBB stock If i understood you correctly. i know that some of the EC Services on the route are operated by DB stock.

    Heres EC 114 iirc at Schwarzach st. veit which later joins the Salzburg Rosenheim line. So the 101 doing some EC runs with DB stock is realistic, and the ones operated by OBB locos and coaches will be added with the 1116.

    On the left you can even see an ICE 4 which recently replaced loco hauled trains on this line and turned it from an EC to an IC(E) service.

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  46. LastTrainToClarksville

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    So far, I've tried two of the activities included with this route: one a scenario and the other a timetable session. Both offered the same "Driver Assist" message early on: "Turn on safety systems LZB/PZB to receive additional points" without providing instructions for doing so. Will someone please tell me how this is accomplished?

    Thanks!

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    [​IMG]
    these switches on the wall behind you
    PS of course, you must know how to use these systems while driving
    TUTORIAL
     
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  48. duki

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    No, back in 2013 there were EC and IC operated by ÖBB (and DB as far as I know). They could be formed with (mostly) ÖBB locos and ÖBB passenger cars as well as foreign passenger cars.
    Additionally there were also services called "ÖBB EC" and "ÖBB IC" with higher comfort standards and necessarily ÖBB passenger cars.

    Look on the vagonweb site.
     
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    https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=DB&kategorie=EC&rok=2013

    Well i just did for ECs, and it states that EC services 114,115, 117 and 216-219 +390,391& 1217 were operated by DB IC stock+a 101. The only ECs for Salzburg Rosenheim with öbb cars and 1116 are four(!) Klagenfurt Dortmund Services (EC 110-113)

    Additionaly there are the DB ÖBB Munic to Italy EC services operated by ÖBB stock, but they would be AI only at Rosenheim as well as a lot of domestic austrian Services at Salzburg.

    Railjets would come on top of that but theres no stock for that in game, and i dont know about filling in that gaps with ÖBB Bmz as that would be unrealistic.
    Additionaly to vagonweb, heres all EC and IC services at Freilassing in 2013 on a German Fan made database (with coach diagrams)
    EC
    https://www.fernbahn.de/datenbank/suche/?fahrplan_jahr=2013&zug_bereich=&zug_gattung=EC&zug_nummer=&zug_linie=&zug_name=&laufplan_tfz=&ice_typ=&wagengattung=&wagengattung_suche=AND&bahnhof_name=Freilassing&bahnhof_richtung=&bahnhof_richtung2_modus=1&bahnhof_richtung2=&fahrplan_tage[]=1&fahrplan_tage[]=2&fahrplan_tage[]=3&fahrplan_tage[]=4&fahrplan_tage[]=5&fahrplan_tage[]=6&fahrplan_tage[]=7&reiseplan[]=1&reiseplan[]=2&fv_suche_detail=1#fv_suche_detail

    IC
    https://www.fernbahn.de/datenbank/suche/?fahrplan_jahr=2013&zug_bereich=&zug_gattung=IC&zug_nummer=&zug_linie=&zug_name=&laufplan_tfz=&ice_typ=&wagengattung=&wagengattung_suche=AND&bahnhof_name=Freilassing&bahnhof_richtung=&bahnhof_richtung2_modus=1&bahnhof_richtung2=&fahrplan_tage[]=1&fahrplan_tage[]=2&fahrplan_tage[]=3&fahrplan_tage[]=4&fahrplan_tage[]=5&fahrplan_tage[]=6&fahrplan_tage[]=7&reiseplan[]=1&reiseplan[]=2&fv_suche_detail=1#fv_suche_detail

    As you can see i informed myself ;)
     
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    I'm glad you did. Then you also can see 4 services is too less.

    You are right. There are only 4 EC with austrian coaches, I thought 5. My bad.

    But there are more ICs.
    IC 861-IC 869, IC 118, IC 119

    All I was saying is, there should be more than 4 EC services with an ÖBB 1116.
    This and a ton of AI services and static stock to feel authentic.
     
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