Upcoming Release Train Sim World 4: Bahnstrecke Salzburg – Rosenheim: Coming Soon!

Well one thing

It's same with the 193 where I always and always and always I said that the brake etc. doesn't work, I annoyed DTG until it was fixed,
And it was fixed
Same like the DB BR442 And dtg say the fix is coming gg

 

That’s not the point though is it? I don’t really like scenarios, but if you know something is broken, why are you releasing it that way?

 

Kassel Würzburg. It’s the longest route ever created for TSW

 

We both know that there are enough examples of DTG releasing broken stuff. Honestly, we had errors which had been so obvious, they couldn't have been missed in Q&A.

 

Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel - Würzburg - https://store.steampowered.com/app/...hnellfahrstrecke_Kassel__Wrzburg_Route_AddOn/

It is part of the 3 routes that TSW 3 was released with.

 

Also part of the reason they managed to do such a long route is that there are only 3 stations and much of the route is in tunnels, so much less work than a 186km traditional route would be.

 

And they continue to do so because they know we’ll buy it anyway. It’s ridiculous.

 

Particularly if it is needed for Mastery or Journey Mode completion.

And we know from past experience, the quick fix can turn into a long wait (Chopper and Change on TVL) or never (the broken G6 shunting scenario, the Train 66 on Boston to Providence).

I was probably never going to preorder or Day One this anyway (Zusi 3 distraction notwithstanding) but this seems like an excellent reason to wait for 40 or 50% off in a sale.

 

Thanks - I never got TSW 3 so didn't own the route.

 

This for me at least will be the first time since TSW exists that I will definitly not pre-order or buy a german DLC on day one. Looking forward to some sales, it won't be long until I will get it for 20€ or less. Mostly interesting from this release is the 111. When I compare the value with BRO for example where we got the 110 + NWagen + Cabcar this one is not good value for money.

 

Well that Route is also probably one of the most boring ones. It is literally 3 Stations the rest are just tunnel and bridges.
Can't really take this as a comparison to normal fully fledged out routes.

 

Exactly this route is simple with less difficulty points.... So if you build a route that's 186 km with 80% tunnels it's not a masterpiece! Salzburg Rosenheim is a big job to do with all the scenery and objects longside the route. With zero tunnels!

 

For you maybe, I would disagree Just shows again that we all have different opinions about stuff...

 

For me the route is not boring.... I'm talking about the scenery and tunnels in this case Sorry for the misunderstanding!

 

No need to be sorry at all, I do understand that people find this boring! Its just that I personally see it differenty. Especially freight, believe it or not, I even enjoyed driving the 2:30+ services in the middle of the night.

I am looking forward to the BR111, however, I will probably mainly enjoy the faster services with more modern stock plus the fright.

 

Whether it's "boring" or not, there's no question that Salzbug München would be much more difficult to build.

 

in my opinion they should only release the dlc with the 5th scenario fixed bc in the end, we pay for an incomplete and broken dlc

 

Agree BRO has the best starter trains and with all layers Bremen HBH is in my opinion the best station in the game.

in general that route has everything you would like to have (at least closest to it)

 

Related with this route, but that could be added to other one, ... I have noticed the following:
This week-end, I was seeing a Youtube video about Munchen Hbf, showing its great traffic of continuous, departing and arriving, trains!.
The video is new from February 2024.
There it appears several services, with Dostos but with the BR 111!

So that locomotive could have layers too, on the almost "empty" of trains Munich - Augsburg route!
Only near Munich, you have several DB BR 423 services, but not Regional ones..

That route it has all the stations from Augsburg to Munich, which could be used, with layers for the BR111 and Dostos there.
Of course also on other routes could be added too.

Please have a picture, I have taken from the mentioned YT video, showing a train with the BR111 in Munich Hbf.
Hopes DTG adds layers for this route.

Special Note: I do not know, if those trains with the BR111 loco, goes - or stops - to Augsburg.
But anyway will be great to have more trains there.



Credit: Train Enthusiast YouTube Channel

 

Munich could certainly use a timetable rework/expansion to begin to make it somewhat like the bustling place it is IRL, and any number of newer trains could be added to it; but my understanding is that rather like BML the route is already straining consoles and older PCs to their limits as it is; this problem is what has caused the delay to the 420 being released.

Unfortunately there is no way apparently to get in the large number of private TOCs that run in and out.

 

@ DTG

Will there be any changes to the 111's sound (after release)? I apologize if this question has already been answered.

For me it takes away so much immersion when the 111 sounds like the 103 and 110. Unfortunately, this is still the case at the moment. The Desiro's lousy sound was also quickly forgotten.

 

Yes Solicitr, I noticed and "suffer" about that issue in this route. Mainly due to I am on PS4.
But it has been improved!.
When I purchased at launch, I always had the "blue screen" error, when approaching Munich Hbf - but only just 2 km before.
So I saved before and then, load it and continue and finish the drive..

But with the performance improvements made by DTG, this does not happens anymore.
Similar problems I had with Dresden Riesa, near Dresden situation.
This does not happens anymore either!.

Furthermore I have noticed DTG has increased the details of the objects of all the routes too.

The last time, I was approaching Munich with an ICE3, plus a BR 423 in parallel, and furthermore there were 2 ICE on the HBF. Plus 3 other BR423 running around.
No problem at all.

Then I believe if DTG adds some DB111 + Dostos services from Augsburg, going through all the stations, but ending before the HBf. For example at Munich Pasing, will be great.
Adding just 2 Dostos services only up to Munich.
The big issue today about traffic is from Augsburg side. Is really empty
You only have one or 2 ICE or even none, departing there.
So 111 + Dostos will be right.
The route it has 4 tracks for the full length, and it already has the stations there.

Just an idea, which I believe could be possible, and do not affect the performance.
Even some freight service could be possible, as there are 2 freight yards, one on each side, but the one at Munich is before the Hbf, around 1km before, so no problem.

Hope some of the ideas mentioned, could be implemented in order to improve traffic on that route!.

Thanks for your comments too!
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That would be great; in addition, if the system can handle the load they also need 425 services running offmap to the south towards Tutzing and Weilheim; ICE 1's, OBB EC's and Railjets, and of course 420's. They could also add 642s to represent Desiros which IRL are operated by private TOCs like Meridian.

 

Another German route with AI probably not using windshield wipers in rain/snow. How can this be overlook or not implemented anymore? It seems not a thing these days. SEH should set an example, the AI use the correct lights and wipers. It's a sim I thought...It breaks the immersion and looks stupid. These routes are rushed and certain things are ignored. No one cares I guess. Sad.

 

rushed / copy-pasted / no love

just another default quality overpriced DLC what is NOT a compliment oh my

 

Between traditional tunnels and tree tunnels the difference isn't that much in the end. Many of TSW's routes appear to be drawn in the middle of a coniferous forest. Some time ago I was watching Cologne-Aachen on Youtube, a real cab ride. Apart from Cologne and Aachen, it seems that there are no other cities along the route, perhaps a few tiny isolated villages.

Especially in the part between Stolberg and Duren (the non high-speed part) you only encounter trees and stations. It is perceived that there is a large city because the station has many platforms, but there is no trace of the city (perhaps only one large building, Essen, HRR)



An explicit example occurs around minute 13 / 14. Here there is a vast field with in the background and large industries. On the other hand, the usual trees all around.

 

They don’t work to Augsburg anymore. They mainly work trains in the peak and in the day sometimes go to Regensburg and Pasing.

 

What I do not understand is, why don't they have someone just go over each route "drive a train" and look for stuff that is wrong and fix it?? That's all the person does every day. I think then things might not get missed and would improve. I really do not think anyone at Doesn't Test Games ever checks for anything before it's released. Rushing it out at all costs is the motto!

 

One person can't fix everything. Not every bug can be fixed by release

 

I think by now, they could do a better job. Look, some routes still have annoying bushes or tree assets clipping in the trains, lights not on at stations, AI STILL not using proper wipers, Z fighting STILL on Xbox ect. No excuse! I paid good money for a broken mess.

 

If they at least would fix bugs after release...

 

I don't think that exists in DTG world.

 

Right!

 

Boring route and no fun. If you like tunnels!

 

fix what you find before release, announce the date when ready… it’s their choice to push out before fixing things what are found.

 

Eine DB151 fehlt auch noch auf der Strecke

 

I tested the route, and in general I liked it.
Is it long, it have some interesting landscapes, - with distant mountains - , several bridges and rivers, there are lot of AI traffic, the yards are also not empty - as on other routes - with several trains, and freight cars, and the new locomotive BR111, which have its own way to drive it. I found some similarities with the BR 155 too about this point. But it is not exactly the same way.

But there are some things I do not like it:
- It might be added some new freight car.
For example another euroopean tank car.
This type of freight car it has different sizes and designs, but despite we have lot of germany and now some austria routes, we have just only one tank car design.
Of course do not forget about the new petroleum pack launched, but those are for the UK.
But other type of freight cars are missing too.

I want to be fair, but we have something new about it: the Laaers vehicle freight car, now it has different color for them, and SUV are also included, not only sedans. Nice.

- The Dostos, as it is like a "pandemic"... after few km, from depart, looses the PIS / Destination, of the train!
- I am suffering the issue about the big digital speed indication on the screen when pressing the rectangle of the PS control.
This started to happens on one of December updates, and is still there.



Fortunately it quickly disappears!.

Despite I am on PS4, the drive was smoothly, and without any problems even lot of AI traffic and scenery

But there is an exception: Salzburg HBf.
There I got the full blue screen error, and the sim closes.
I have lot of routes, but this is the one only with this issue.
Note: Before I suffered on Dresden and Munich HBfs, but due to DTG memory improvements dissapeared.
I believe in this case, it is due to, it this a very big station, it has lot of details -due to its complex design-, then requires a large memory / resources consumption.
Hopes this issue can be solved as it were with the 2 stations mentioned above

 

Does this happen after you opened and closed the circuit breaker before Freilassimg station? In this case you need to restart the „Zugsammelschiene“, this is the switch on the right beside the circuit breaker. After that PIS and the passengers lights will be enabled again.

 

Here you have some pictures I took of the route:

 

And an issue, that might not happens on a route on TSW4 - payware-, being so close to the tracks....



That building like a depot or engine facility, with tracks ending on a wall, and not a big door at least.

 

Okay, so I'm lukewarm on German routes as I prefer more southern European railways that sadly don't appear to be within DTG's remit. So should I buy it? I like a good, busy timetable and operational variation. Aside from the usual bugs that come with absolutely every game release and will hopefully get fixed, is it a good drive?

 

Probably time to lock this 'coming soon' thread, now that it's out and other threads are discussing it?

 

Hello.
Yesterday first I run again the service, that I could not finished previously due to the game crash.
I used a saved game, I made, near Salzburg Hbf, and I could arrive and stop without any crash!
Then I selected another timetable, now with the BR 101, but starting from Salzburg Hbf.
Strangely - for good! - this time no crashes - blue screen- at all!.
I even took pictures with photo mode, move around the station, and also when I was going to depart my train, another one appeared including the new BR111 and Dostos.

Really strange how different situations happened.
Do you know if there was an update lately?

 

It is an excellent drive with a nice timetable and variety of services - I have all the possible layers. I am very impressed and look forward to exploring this route and timetable for a good long while.

 

"Zugsammelschiene" which switch is it?

edit: is it the switch labeled in English as "Train Line Power" or sth like that?

I need to know cos today I am going to play Dostos on this track, so I know what to do at the border crossing and not get penalty brakes or stop unnecessarily

 

Yes, it is. Hold it in start for a bit before letting go (it will jump back to on).

 

this service (at least for me) is bugged... as you can already see in the background, I havent even started and it says "Service Failure: ...at danger" tried another one, that seems to work fine... if I find another service like this, will post it here I guess... or in troubleshooting, dunno

 

did as you said and the power kicked in just fine thx ))

 

Le même

 

eh ?