Skyhhook Midland Mainline Part 2 (london To Leicester)

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  1. It was clearly stated Skyhook is going to do a London to Leicester and Sheffield (other parts of the mainline that connect to the 3 cities of Nottingham and Derby) to Nottingham/Derby and other connecting lines.

    I wonder if this has been talked about recently. 20240119031850_1.jpg
     
  2. mldaureol2

    mldaureol2 Well-Known Member

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  3. Spikee1975

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    Source for that?

    And there were many things stated and promised by a former Skyhook spokesman, who was proven to be a notorious liar. That's history and Skyhook should not be held accountable for that anymore, to be fair.

    You know what they say, "if it's not on the roadmap..." - it's speculation.
     
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  4. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    You probably took a "we are interested" and interpreted it as "it is definitely releasing." They mean very different things. Developers always say they want something, but it doesn't always come to fruition. Wishes/wants and what actually gets developed are 2 different things. If it's also not on the roadmap, no plans. Unless you created this post as the usual clickbait. If you don't know already, you are notorious for confidently saying "x route is coming to tsw" without any basis of proof other than your own words and when all leaks point elsewhere.
     
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  5. MYG92

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    Yep it’s true. There’s also from the leaks, a scenario where we have to drive a train from Leicester to Wolverton station, to switch to an F1 car at Silverstone.
     
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  7. mbjbjm#7281

    mbjbjm#7281 Well-Known Member

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    God. The Jane saga. That was an eventful day on the forums.
     
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    "While playing a puzzle." ....... you forgot to add, I believe.
     
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  9. jack#9468

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    Guys, I have a feeling this is yet another troll post. We seem to be getting them a lot lately.
     
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  10. MYG92

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    Silly me ugh ! I forgot that and Le Mans as well !
     
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  11. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Yes we have moved from Donner is definitely in development to MML must be too. What hobbyhorse will he come up with for Germany?

    At best this should be in the Suggestions Forum.
     
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  12. Gilly

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    Something which allows you to drive the old Nurburgring?
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    How about Hamburg to Munich via Berlin, Dresden, Leipzgi, Koln, and Frankfurt, with an extension to Tokyo?
     
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  14. MaxBenchip

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    Nooo all wrong it's the full Nürburgring guys ! With the Jeep from Holiday Elf ;)
     
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  15. dtg_jan

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    Hey everyone,

    Please remember to maintain a respectful tone around here; there is no need to add snide and sarcastic comments just to spite someone. This sort of gatekeeping and cliquish behavior has no room in an open community.

    We have people from all walks of life with different experiences and opinions. To dogpile onto someone that doesn't align with your view is disrespectful and harms the open-minded atmosphere we want to create here.

    All the best,
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  16. OldVern

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    Fair comment Jan but surely you can see from the OP’s history he has a habit of posting clickbait topics then running to the mods when people reasonably oppose his views. In recent days we have had his post convinced that Donner is coming, now another bit of MML and most recently touting for crowdfunding to pay for DLC development. All of that is at best unlikely to happen and is only going to provoke the response you dislike. So if you want to avoid that sort of interaction, OP needs to be told to wind it in a bit. Goose and gander come to mind.
     
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  17. Gilly

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    By that token dtg_jan does that mean it ok to post absolute falsehoods as fact?
     
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  18. dtg_jan

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    These are fair points, but if you see a post that you presume to be ragebait and then engage with it, ultimately drawing more attention to it and getting mad about it, wouldn't it be better to just disengage? Always remember the old internet adage "Don't feed the troll."
    If the OP is trolling all you are doing is giving them what they want: attention and a lot of action revolving around them and their comment.

    But, and I think this is much worse, if the OP is not trolling, all you are doing is being mean and exclusionary for no reason. You have a choice when you post here, so why choose to be mean if you could be nice instead?

    And while I agree that posting rumours as facts is undesirable, there are other ways to interact with such posts than ridicule and riling up. Take a measured approach instead of dragging someone across the coals just because everyone else is doing the same.

    I understand that it is unrealistic to get along nicely with everyone, but what I'm asking you is to take a second before you post and ask yourself the following: "Is what I'm about to write adding anything constructive to the conversation?".
    If you see a post that you suspect to be harmful in any way, report it. If it truly is going against forum rules the admin team will take care of it.
    If the post is spreading falsehoods you can still correct them, but be reasonable and respectful.
     
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  19. marcsharp2

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    It was never confirmed, it's 99 miles from Leicester to London St Pancras which is a hefty length for a Train Sim route.
     
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  20. Calidore266

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    Being fair, people mad at DTG do that all the time. And the OP has had threads closed by the same people who have suddenly found a commitment to honesty when it comes to others' satirical positivity.
     
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    They would most likely do London-Bedford or Corby.
     
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  22. It's not as if it will be announced what they are working on is it?
     
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    If it's not on the roadmap, there are no plans. So take what you heard about mml and throw it down the drain and assume not coming unless it's added to the roadmap. Like I said, wishes and what actually gets developed are 2 very different things
     
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  24. Spikee1975

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    Even Ratcliffe access was dismissed by Skyhook. They're making gameplay packs now.

    Any future MML routes should be done by the experts, JustTrains. What they have done for TSC is outstanding.
     
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    That happens on these forums regularly, but gets ignored by the majority when it suits them to do so.
     
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    I mean I would happily see this but I think we are more likely to be awoken by a unicorn riding a motorcycle than see it. Although the whole Jane saga were a very bad, and confusing time, it must be given to Skyhook as a company (I think an even bigger thanks to Adam) they have sorted the route out to be in the top 5 routes, personally.

    Of course, all whilst being able to interact and speak with Sean Bean!
     
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    Don't for get londonmidland was involved in the MML update. I think he deserves the credit.
     
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    Yes, very much so, he certainly does deserve a lot of credit too actually. I should give myself a slap on the wrist for forgetting really!
     
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    What? Do you mean that stuff Jane wrote here is not true? The extensions and so on? It were those promises that pushed me to purchase the route full price eventually ;) But I like it anyway, the trains are good and the recent update fixed most of the issues.
     
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    You mean that "MML is the seed for a network" stuff :D
     
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    MML is one of the few routes I finished the Journey mode on. Then again it wasn’t that extensive to start with, could have done with a few more elements adding. But yes kudos to those who pulled round what Skyhook originally put out, it is one of the UK routes you want to come back to helped by having two very well crafted trains.
     
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    MML where it stands now, if you ignore the scope of the route, it’s pretty decent.

    The issue with it though is the scope - there’s just not a lot of purpose to any of the services, all of them are basically just one principle station away from the end of the route.

    Fortunately the trains are indeed very good, the route itself though just feels like a test bed for them.
     
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    I agree it is a good route with very good trains but I rarely drive it as it doesn't feel complete. I would love to see a 156 but if it is just for this route I won't be rushing out to buy it.
     
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    Agreed on the trains. The 158 is lovely (even if the guard simulation could have been handled better, I think) and so is the HST. The real boon for the HST for me is to have a route where I can actually drive it - GWE is just: put throttle to max and wait half an hour.
     
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    I think I saw somewhere that Skyhook were making a change to the timings on the doors for the 158.

    It takes 20+ seconds to open the doors, another 20+ to close them, but most stops on the 158 are timed at 30 seconds. Bit daft really.

    Not to say that the guard feature isn’t nice, it’s really good to see devs working on the little bits that DTG avoid. As with most though it needs more experimenting.

    The HST runs are indeed better than GWE (imo), it does offer a nice little mix of running on wide open corridors, but then taking more confined routes towards Nottingham & Derby - an experience we didn’t previously have with the HST. I do wish we had abit more of it though.
     
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    Definitely feel it should have gone to Sheffield, in fact to some extent I would rather they had sacrificed Nottingham and done that instead. Or Bedford, just as good. But like GWE, just when you get going and settled in, the run comes to an end.
     
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    I did think the same RE cutting one of the forks off, but then you basically exclude a train. The HST doesn’t have much to do without Derby & the 158 doesn’t have much to do without Nottingham.

    What Skyhook have done will work, if they actually work with it.
     
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    I don't think a Class 143 corners especially briskly. Very hard to add power past the apex, and I would expect those tires to have limited grip.
     
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    I think Sheffield will be a good DLC it is still 30 miles or so from Derby to Sheffield and it is the most scenic part of the Midland Mainline.
     
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    "I do wonder what Skyhook are working on?"

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    "They're doing London - Leicester.
    They clearly stated it."

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    Would be nice to also see the underground St Pancras platforms modelled, and then the Thameslink could layer on through to Bedford. Had a look on Real Time Trains, seems to follow the same route through to there.
     
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  42. I have found the original post in the now locked thread
    Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

    The post to which I was referring in the OP
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    If you check the Skyhook MML feedback thread it had to be locked because of the toxicity which certain users brought in there. The last page has numerous (about 8) comments that were moderated with one even threatening violence.

    SkyhookfeedbackMidlandMainlineideas2Pg58.JPG

    So it was nothing to do with my rage bait, click bait or Donner Pass or Le Mans ideas....

    Sure there are plenty on these forums that won't respond to the topic in the thread. If so then make your own thread please? You can then accuse yourself of being a troll and how your ideas are stupid? At least you aren't insulting anyone except yourself. So that is trolling yourself. Instead of me.

    If you want to accuse me of being a troll then use evidence WITHIN a thread because it seems like near impossible you can prove it.

    If you check the definition of trolling it is off topic, so if you aren't dealing with the subject matter at hand then I can suggest you go somewhere else and make a competing post if that is what you desire.
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    No where in what Jane said does it back up what you stated as a ‘fact’.

    You are continually making rage-bait spam threads.

    You have been repeatedly seen name calling members of this forum in other TSW communities.

    You have made irrelevant rambling posts attacking the community on this forum.

    You continue to attempt to gaslight this forum & its members.

    You know exactly what you are doing & what that makes you.
     
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  44. You are the one trolling.

    Shame Admins won't moderate your post.
     
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    You do realise the post you quoted was a bunch of lies, right?

    Also, you are fitting the exact definition of trolling you've posted (both here and elsewhere).
     
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    Shame they won't moderate yours either.

    Also, where am I trolling?
     
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    It’s better to ignore him, I mean his arguments are always limited and it’s about calling us trolls or making false statements.
     
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  48. So you have an issue with "going to do" vs "planning"? And then you say I am ragebaiting?


    It was clearly stated Skyhook is going to do a London to Leicester and Sheffield (other parts of the mainline that connect to the 3 cities of Nottingham and Derby) to Nottingham/Derby and other connecting lines.

    Well to me it seems that the reference backs up my claims that Skyhook is planning to do future content connecting the MML.

    If I very wrong, please explain? Because in english reference I seem to close on the mark.

    You are simply trolling.

    https://www.powerthesaurus.org/going_to_do_something
     
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  49. Where have I accused you of making a false statement? Please tell!
     
  50. You know where.
     
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