The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly: Fife Circle

To sum it up. The only effort that went Into this route was the 170. They actually did the 170 Justice besides the PIS and lack of tint on the windows. Everything else speed ran through development.

 

Why has the q&a thread been shut down??

 

the stream is over, they are locked sometime after stream.

 

Yes but they never answered any of the questions in the thread

 

And the Forth Bridge tbf

 

Doesn't surprise me really. I had to keep spamming my questions in chat at times during the livestream to get an answer for something as simple as the inclusion of services that terminate at Cowdenbeath (Jasper did confirm they will be there).

 

Pretty sure they talked more about the seal plushies and facts about the Forth bridge more than the important questions and when they did ask Jasper a question the answer was usually "no"

 

i noticed a lack of these services too (as well as an overall lack of many services that should be there).. plus the emptiness of haymarket depot is striking

 

To sum up this line: Arosa 2.0

 

Don't even get me started on Haymarket Depot. The fact that the depot is still closed off and we can't do empty stock movements is quite frankly appalling.

 

i feel exactly the same.. i just cannot get my head around how all this has been seen to be okay for release. Having a full timetable with also the empty depot moves in/out of a depot that is immediately next to the track should be approved on day one of production

i really wanted this route in game so much, and i'm usually willing to give routes the benefit of the doubt and see for myself what they are like, but this is the very first time in the past few years of playing tsw that i cannot purchase this.. as much as i want this route so much, it's just nowhere near at an acceptable standard. The timetable alone is a huge red flag for me here

 

Really sad to see a opportunity of a great route seems to be absolutely wasted with this release.
No doubt we will get what they did show in the stream.
Man this is so annoying to see some 3rd parties grabbing such a great route just to throw into the bin for any other, potentially more capable 3rd party or DTG themselfs.

 

After the recent release of salzburg - rosenheim and the goblin line, and rivet's berninaline. which imo were both better than expected and really well recieved. Rivet made the backlash on how godawful this build looks and no response the entire day after the entire community exploded even worse now we have all seen that DTG is capable of making quality routes. If it were my project I would get an apology for the human mistake of sending the wrong build and that going unnoticed for way too long. and show at least some pictures of how far they are now/the actual release state of the route. 5 days seems like only time for little final touches so everything should be in already I suppose. wondering how old the build is that matt had and I really hope for the release and console players the right build gets sent so the few that do still want to buy the route get something somewhat looking like it's at least ducttaped together instead of just falling apart completely. Rivet won me and a decent amount of people back with bernina I'd say. but this just threw all that good karma out of the window and in front of a passing truck.

 

Refer it to a DTG community manager, I did think they had started answering the ones at the end of the thread, but not sure if they are doing that for 3rd party.

 

maybe they ran it on a potato device :P
then even the best graphics can look plain
not that i believe it that that happened

 

Agreed.

D'oh!

I find it inconceivable that a company like DTG that revels in absolute excellence would allow an incident like this to soil their hugely impressive untarnished reputation.

D'oh!
I find that so hard to believe but I have no reason to question you. There must have been a very real reason for this oversight from DTG which as we all know is a company where mistakes and errors are vanishingly rare and always swiftly rectified.

Thank you my friend. Given that positivity I now feel that I have made my mind up and I will pre-order this route. I am sure that any tiny and insignificant teething troubles will be smoothed out in a quickly released update patch.

Come on folks stop putting DTG/Rivet down. They are trying their best and sometimes you people can be way over critical blowing things out of all proportions. Just buy it now... You know you want to!

 

I think you missed the sarcasm in merdians post.

 

"Their best?
Losers whine about their best.
Winners go home and .... the prom queen."

 

are you SD40 Australia, I’ve been wondering what’s with the 2 accounts ?

 

Nope. Two different people, two separate accounts but with a shared boundless reverence for all things DTG/TSW.

Are you really a member of a Royal family??

 

I thought you left the forums SD40Australia because you couldn't handle criticism. Using your fake account again Ito try to defend Rivet. I guess you couldn't leave after all.

 

It is

 

Very far away from the main ones if so

(The name comes from my Minecraft days almost 10 years ago now)

 

One of these has eloquence, good writing style and a fine sense of humour and parody. The other - not.

Why people do not get it is beyond me.

 

[Removed - DTG Alex: Insensitive, Rude]

 

Oh don't say that. He will create another thread labeling us as trolls because he can't handle criticism again and make another thread saying he will leave only to create another account defending DTG/RIvet

 

The parody is so much in your face you don't seem to see it. Consider you are talking to the wrong person, even accusing them of something they can't answer to no more.

Thread should be locked. Reason: groupthink

 

Those building with the strange, white windows got me. Even the Forth Bridge is not enough to keep me from cancelling my pre order.

 

Not a very smart thing to say if I'm being honest, even in any context

 

I congratulate Rivet as the Forth Bridge and Class 170 are well modelled, but I am sorry scenes like these below, are laughably amateurish. Can someone at Rivet please show the scene they tried to replicate this. It really spoils their design. There are loads of cab rides of the route on you tube and DVDs to get hold of. Surely they watch them and if they cannot replicate them well please don’t release the route. Rivet’s past work has been pretty poor and they continue to charge us £29.99 for sub standard and poor work. It has become more than a joke. I would say don’t buy this route and I wasn’t going to, going off the first part of last night’s stream until they showed the forth bridge lit up in the dark. This route is only fit to play in night mode. What was annoying last night was no announcements. Wouldn’t you think they would have this spot on prior to the stream. Typical Rivet.

 

This thread is about to probably get locked, so I'm just gonna say this;


This route is a disaster

 

might as well add my opinion:
the good:
the 170 (its okay)

the bad:
everything else except the bridge which from what I've seen is good

~~all the budget went to the bridge~~

 

such poetry :sob:

 

I think the sooner this is addressed by DTG the better, otherwise i feel it's only going to get worse

 

I just imagined Graham Chapman saying this. Cheers Alex

 

Alex, I am not surprised by the comments on here. Rivet are good at train design and their Stations are ok. Their effort on the forth bridge is excellent, but IMO following their lousy work on WCL a route I know well and they replicated it disgracefully, there replication of the route scenery looks fictional. I am hugely disappointed after last night’s stream and it was embarrassing for Matt not to be able to use the announcements.

Alex, you can ban me from this forum if you wish, but Just Trains with Blackpool Branches and yourselves with London Overground have shown TSW players how good your work is, but Rivet’s work is beyond a joke. I am the first to congratulate when a lot of work has been given to produce a suitable routes, which is something Rivet cannot do imo.

Please ask Rivet to show the true picture that they replicated here. To me this looks acceptable from games issued 25 years ago!!

 

Im Brian..and so is my wife

 

That is unacceptable

 

Mind you... This is from an Ambassador

 

just giving a heads up that the post comes up as “last edited by a moderator” if it was edited by a staff member, when it doesn’t it’s just the posters edit.

 

The "Official" statement from Rivet doesn't fill me with much hope honestly. We meant to be taking Rivet at their word after that car crash?

 

Imma take the L on that one. My emotions got the best of me today ok that post. But tbh here I shouldn't had said that regardless at all. So I do apologize for my actions from earlier

 

best to wait and see the upcoming DTG announcement

 

If the rest of the services are locked behind that 158, that’s a poor decision & absolutely should have been released alongside the route.

Even that doesn’t solve the lifelessness, Haymarket should be busier (why on earth they missed 385 services that are in E2G is bizarre), the depot should be populated & at the very least they should of used their own engineering pack.

Missing steam & BR tours, aswell as the RHTT is nothing but shortsighted.

 

Well Alex replied to the post stating the release date is unchanged? I hope we get something off DTG

 

So my PS5 build may not be up to date when I purchase but will be updated at some point? All sounds very vague. Is it the same day/week/month?

 

At the very least this needs a re-stream on the correct build before release.

Jasper only addressed the house textures & not the other unsightly scenery.

The announcements were decent IMO, they do keep improving with each release, however the track joint sounds were the same ones (Markinch) we heard on the stream, not all of the other missing ones.

 

This is the main issue for me, I am still awaiting the promised 150 fix...

Can you trust them to fix things post launch... Proberbly not.

 

Damn if the British Ace say this it must be really bad then