I may be misremembering, but it was the rubbish operator simulator. It was also snowing though so we haven’t truly seen the scenery (although perhaps that’s to our benefit).
Oh that airport... Literally, trees and decent modeling on the right, emptiness on the left... EDIT- Who said ballast is bad? It's just the wrong color.
The idea that some average gamer playing graphically impressive titles like Red Dead, Last of Us, or Final Fantasy games doesn't care about them is borderline ridiculous. Graphics are one of those things the average gamer does take note of, if anything they tend to care way more about them than many hardcore gamers.
He plays on a XBOX so it could be the same problem... Old version What Rivet has done is absolutely stupid..... You can not know wich YTer has wich build..... Complete stupid mess.... Unbelievable what a dumb situation here
Nope, new version. He’s said as much & has the announcements. The bulk of the problems were never going to be solved, the 3 things addressed were explicitly stated as being the buildings pointed out, joint sounds & announcements.
The series X is held back by the S, the S has less ram so can’t load as much in & DTG have to use one build for Xbox. Microsoft don’t allow devs to use separate builds as they don’t want the S to look last gen.
100% sure.... Playing on a console is waste of money in general with this game with al the washed out textures... I'm playing on a high end pc and what you see there is bizar better quality with the right tweaks
Makes no sense a pc is way better than console. Even on a ps5 its different. I mean popping trees and bad shadows
Is was very simple to prevent this whole issues with the route and the train.... For the next time DTG has to cancel the stream and re scheduled the stream... It has bring so much bad reactions and the route was far from what i have seen in today streams
Only because you can make ini changes. I own both. It’s true that the series s does hold back certain games. Tsw is awful on series s but looks quite good on x.
I'm on high end PC too and I can say that TSW looks very good. Only some routes are a bit too heavy, such as NYT.
I doubt the flat MSTS ground texture is going to look any different whatever the platform. Fact remains Rivet have dropped the ball big time on this, looks to have every chance of being a worst disaster than WCL. In all honesty, if they can’t find a route builder for the UK who can do better than this, they seriously need to think about packing it in.
For sure on a X or PS5 its a big difference but all the popping and bad shadows is for me a dealbreaker
Of course PC is always (well as long as your build is actually better than that of a PS5/Series X) going to deliver a better graphical experience, compounded even more by the ability to access game files. That doesn’t mean good quality routes can’t & don’t exist for the consoles - they can & do. The Xbox issue is bizarre but it’s akin to the add on manager issue, it needs an alternative fix as DTG are roadblocked by Microsoft & their silly decisions.
It seems no smoke is coming from the 170's exhausts, some announcements are missing, etc. This is a still a huge mess, no matter what they fixed asap.
Are you sure? I have seen a few streams and they look fine only if you use the outside cam you dind't hear it but thats correct
What? This stream was a bizar old build so people have not the latest view so thats a minimal effort they can take for it....
At the same time you'll find many who say "gameplay over graphics". Unfortunately with the poor timetable Fife Circle falls down on that front, and personally I'd say the timetable is its most severe issue (at least with what we know pre-release).
The announcements are also missing the “This is……, This train is for….., The next station is.,…” while the train is at the station
Well, the screenshots I showed are from the current build that the streamer received (has been confirmed). I didn't see any major changes other than replacing the 2D buildings. (4) FIFE CIRCLE LINE FIRST LOOK - New UK Scottish Route - Class 170 Turbostar - Train Sim World 4 - YouTube
Yeah this I would like some clarification on though. First of all it was “about 40 more services” for the 170, then it was 40 for rail tours etc - are we getting 80 then, or 40ish in total with both included. In any case though it still isn’t realistic, before any ECS, there should be over 140 services for the 170, adding in the shunts & depot moves we should see closer to 180 services for the 170. Skyhook have a golden opportunity here to garner some more good reputation & really pad out the timetable and make the 158 pack more of a New Journeys style pack.
On the route it self yes but the stream was washed out and the colours are always worse so the feeling was extra worse to this. The train is a way different story they have done a lot more than on the stream! The stream quality is so low so i don't now why but that makes a big difference in what you expect to a route. Here is a video that i made and see how it looks like and see that will bring a big difference in what you experienced.
That may be true, I noticed that too, but I doubt it looks much better with higher resolution. Empty areas remain empty areas.
Oh Rivet what are you guys doing. This route looks very odd overall, similar to Maintalbahn - like it was made for TSW 2, shelved & then brought back for TSW 4.
Fully correct with the point of the empty areas but its how much problems you have with it. Its a taste and if you have to big issues with it skip it should i advice. Otherhand the lineside is very good
This is why I don’t like to watch the ambassadors though. BA has spent since about 10am talking negatively about the route, being able to say very little in the way of positive things - only to say “you should still buy it though”. Come on, really?
Literally the biggest pain point about the whole thing. The timetable is beyond lackluster. Sure, but then again, we are already paying full price for this (incomplete) route. I think it shouldn't need another loco DLC just to make it on par with what is expected by the community. Route DLCs need to be complete experiences without the additional DLCs on top.
It also seems to me like a route from 5 years ago, in which some current features have been implemented, such as elevators etc... Oh, and the teleporter! Oh my God...
Absolutely agree, but Rivet just aren’t realistically capable of getting there, with this release it’s the nail in the coffin for their reputation IMO. They were the first third party to develop for TSW & should be the most skilled when it comes to making content for it, but they seem to be addicted to throwing away any positive attention they get. Every time they do something well they have to find a way to ruin something else. Skyhook absolutely dropped the ball with MML when it came out, but they did rescue it later, so they have experience in that field. Should we have to pay extra to get a route that’s up to scratch? No. Will I pay another dev to alleviate some of the issues? Yes. Absolutely to stop Rivet getting their hands on something else.
Inferior design quality of a route is not a 'taste', but rather obvious. But if it's okay for you, okay, but for many it's a gamebreaker. A game shouldn't look like this in 2024, especially not such a good route like the FCL. The empty areas are not miles away (where you could say, okay, whatever), but they are directly in the line of sight while driving. Just as a comparison: While you like to look around at Goblin because everything is beautifully designed, you don't want to take a closer look here because everything seems extremely bland. This is sad because it doesn't do justice to the iconic route.
Should we expect Rivet to fix their products? Absolutely. Can we? Now that's a whole different question and judging from their track record, I have my doubts. As a PC player, I'm still getting the route even though I know I should be voting with my wallet but I still haven't lost all hope when it comes to Fife Circle, at best Rivet will fix it, at worst, the community will. I would definitely be open to buy it as a steam gift for modders who are reluctant to buy it if they have the intention to iron it out if efforts from the developers fail. It's a really sad situation that we are in at the moment. If you're on console, well... I'm truly sorry.
texture problems, destination screen problems, sound and fight problems, other things make this route among the worst done by rivet
I'm sorry, but what about this half baked embarrassment of an add on is worth £30?? Rivet haven't fixed WCL or the 385 and likely never will, despite saying they would. What makes you think this will be any different? You can't reward Rivet with money for their incompetence. This is exactly how we've ended up in this "sad situation" you mentioned. If they still make money off of it they'll have absolutely no incentive to fix things or make sure their next add on is better. Oh but it's alright for you because you're on PC and mods will fix things. Us console players will just continue to rot then. I can't believe people are still willing to stick with Rivet.
The 170 is....okay, but the sounds seriously let it down for me. 170s have a distinct 'rumble' to their engines which is in there, just not as prominent as it should be.
Yea agreed. Everything else Abt the 170 excluding the PIS is pretty much spot on, but the sounds can use some work
