Upcoming Release Lirr Commuter: New York - Long Beach, Hempstead & Hicksville

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  1. DTG Alex

    DTG Alex Senior Community Manager Staff Member

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    LIRR Commuter: New York - Long Beach, Hempstead & Hicksville

    Enter an all-new EMU and run down the Long Beach branch – Train Sim World returns to New York with an all-new extension and the state-of-the-art M9. LIRR Commuter: New York - Long Beach, Hempstead & Hicksville releases on 30th April.

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    Read more details on our LIRR Commuter - Coming Soon article

    In summary this route Add-on features:
    • A total of 57 miles of network to operate
    • NEW Long Beach Branch with 10 Stations
    • NEW Abandoned Woodhaven Station on part of the Atlantic Branch
    • NEW M9 EMU
    • UPDATED M7 EMU
    • UPDATED Reworking of the Schedule with significantly more services (+ more for those with the M3 EMU loco Add-on)
    • NEW Scenarios including ‘Double Duty’ where you can play as a Conductor
    • UPDATED Reworking of Sunnyside Yard
    • UPDATED Station areas, with updated lighting and textures
    • UPDATED Scenery textures, water materials and increased fidelity with the landscape texture blending
    • NEW Full TSW4 feature set, including Scenario Planner (chained paths), Volumetric Fog, rain effects as well as TOD4 lighting and Dynamic Weather from TSW3

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    Pricing and Steam Discounts
    This new route Add-on will be priced at $39.99/£29.99/€35.99 and is available to any player that owns Train Sim World 4 (no previous Add-ons / LIRR content is required).

    Players on Steam will be able to pre-order with a 10% discount from 23rd April.
    There will also be a 10% loyalty discount for Steam players who own the original Long Island Rail Road route Add-on which will stack, resulting in a possible 20% discount on that platform during the pre-order phase.

    Loyalty discount will apply to owners of Long Island Rail Road: New York - Hicksville in TSW2020, TSW2, TSW3, or TSW4.

    The 10% loyalty discount will remain in place on Steam until 14th May.

    Xbox Game Pass players can also take advantage of 10% off Train Sim World 4 Add-ons. This is activated on release. (Can take up to 24 hours).

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    Unique Gameplay Features
    Working with Licensors and Content Adjustments

    As part of the development of Long Island Commuter, we’ve been working closely with Metropolitan Transportation Authority and Long Island Rail Road to bring you an experience that is immersive, and provides a safe representation of the route.
    In addition to all the new content coming with the route, we’ve adjusted the following:



      • Safety Systems for the route will be enabled at all times – this is something unique to Long Island Rail Road Commuter
      • The Brake charge will be automated as part of the start-up procedure, rather than operated by the player
      • Removed circuit breakers in the rear of the cab
      • Door controls have been altered, including removal of door interaction control panels throughout the train
      • Signal IDs are now randomised
      • Removed CCTV cameras from coaches
    We will be developing a Manual for this route to help any players operate with ATC and ACSES Safety Systems, and there will also be a tutorial on how to operate trains on the Long Island Rail Road Commuter route with Safety Systems enabled.

    You’ll be able to experience all the exciting new features, in addition to the changes listed above, in our upcoming route preview livestream on 25th April - in which we’ll also devote some time to an ATC and ACSES tutorial.

    The Route: Long Beach, Hempstead and Hicksville Branches

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    Rolling Stock – the Electric Fleet

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    UPDATED: M7
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    Also available: Original M3 loco Add-on (TSW4 Compatible)
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    Services, Scenarios and Schedule

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    Signaling
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    Double Duty - New Guard Mode Scenario
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  2. mldaureol2

    mldaureol2 Well-Known Member

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    Should be good.
     
  3. mattchester#9176

    mattchester#9176 Well-Known Member

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    So on PS I'm supposed to buy this again with no discount just to get the new / upgraded content? You can blame the platform for not having the same features as steam as much as you like but this doesn't seem fair.
     
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  4. Yorkshirelad

    Yorkshirelad Well-Known Member

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    So we get penalised all because some dumb yank decided to steal a train.....
     
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  5. MaxBenchip

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    Looks really really nice with the Safety systems and the scenery
     
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  6. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Where is the map so we can see what is and isn't included?
     
  7. LIRRGuy

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    We're making it out of Kawasaki Plant with this!!
     
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  8. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    What a surprise
     
  9. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Well dtg have to comply with what mta say or they can't create it in the first place or have legal action if they didn't comply
     
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  10. MYG92

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    “Door controls have been altered, including removal of door interaction control panels throughout the train”

    But why ? Is this related to the recent stupid trend of train surfing ?
     
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    Trainiac Well-Known Member

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    Is this what you’re looking for?
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  12. LIRRGuy

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    Most likely. It's a severe problem across NYC at the moment especially on the subway
     
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    Found it on Discord
     
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  15. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    The map image above is real, just in case anyone doubts it - it was done at the same time as the others we did but couldn't then reveal it for reasons.

    Matt
     
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  16. ehz0689

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    No achievements????? WTF!?
     
  17. GTAGamer245

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    I thought there were achievements leaked on PlayStation.
     
  18. Disintegration7

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    So the "licensing issues" were about safety systems and door controls- fascinating!

    Anyway, very excited about this release- really hope they managed to get the signalling and dispatching done right!
     
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  19. mattchester#9176

    mattchester#9176 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we'll get achievements on playstation since we don't get a discount! :o
     
  20. florians#7620

    florians#7620 Well-Known Member

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    No mention about layers for Penn-Station? …also how this will affect the existing layers of NY-Trenton?

    I would also love to know if Playstation players get at least some sort of discount.
     
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  21. Bradley

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    If there’s no Xbox discount that’s a very hard skip from me, and I don’t have gamepass, £30 for a new loco and 11 new stations…… yeah you’re alright
     
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    So can we get an official answer on what parts of the LIRR are included in the route? Obviously there's no West Hempstead or Far Rockaway branches, but what about Grand Central or St Albans? Is the Floral Park - Hicksville third track included?
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    i have known this was going down for few months now but did not think it was going to happen before the san bernardino line hope they get this right so look forward to this release 100% LIVE with this one for 4 plus hours on Mid week world of trains on 1st May
     
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  24. meMC83

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    Why no loyalty discount for PlayStation players?

    A bit of a kick in the teeth!
     
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  25. meMC83

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    Do trains still clip the platforms at NY Penn?
     
  26. nwp1

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    Wow Matt, DTG what a route. Didn’t the original go to Hicksville and include the captivating Hempstead Branch. I assume the Long Beach is the new bit. Really looking forward to this.

    Is the loyalty discount available to Console players?
     
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  27. d.heal

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    The loyalty discount in the article say xbox they haven't mentioned playstation to have the discount for some reason. Have pc have a 20% pre order for loyalty then going to 10%.
     
  28. mattchester#9176

    mattchester#9176 Well-Known Member

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    That would be a no.

    DTG will just blame users for chosing to buy the game on a platform without these features.
     
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  29. Factor41

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    Quite interested in this as I always enjoyed LIRR and had hoped for a bit (lot) more traffic and variety.
    Will I be buying it again at full price? No.
     
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  30. QNS Chris

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    This looks very good, and I’m quite excited about getting this on April 30…one question though, was the Main Line (JAM-Hicksville) updated to include the third track and the new stations? From the pic at Mineola, it looks like the original pre-third track build. If that’s the case, it’s a bit disappointing; however, still a day-one purchase for me.
     
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    I didn't saw anything talking about Amtrak or NJ Transit.. Any layers at Penn Station and Sunnyside Yard ? Please don't make the same mistake twice...
     
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  32. mattchester#9176

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    This is just the standard Gamepass discount, availible whether you own the original DLC or not, as long as you have Gamepass.

    Still slightly better than playstation though I guess.
     
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    The worst kept secret is put of the bag.
     
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  34. ranbowcrash#6520

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    So with this realease is the any point in the other version that was released for tsw 3
     
  35. RobertSchulz

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    The pictures look amazing and the guard mode scenerio is super (although I had preferred a complete guard game mode), but as far as I can see, no passenger announcements for another rapid transit line, again. Matt, we really need that announcement feature into the core asap! :mad: - Could you say whether this a feature which could be added later as an upgrade?

    BTW: Personally I would love the airtrain branch from Jamaica station to the JFK as a future extension.
     
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  36. addry#6825

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    For previous owners it should be 40-50% off!!!

    Edit: Just reread, we don't even get a loyalty discount on console. UNBELIEVABLE.
     
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  37. DTG Harry

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    Hey folks, just wanted to share some reasoning to the thread regarding discounts:

    Discounts on consoles have to go through the approval from the store platforms, and unfortunately they're not something we can often control and we weren't able to setup for this release. The reasons we're able to provide the discounts on Steam is because we can manually set these ourselves and have more control on the pricing for the platform.

    We understand that means many users on consoles don't get to take advantage of these discounts. In an ideal world we'd like to include them for console players! We'll continue to look for opportunities to give discounts to new and existing content on consoles in future.
     
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  38. florians#7620

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    100% my sentiments as well. Surely not.
     
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  39. meMC83

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    Will be waiting for a significant sale discount then before I buy - as much as I’m looking forward to the route, I’m not paying full price having owned the relative shambles that was LIRR 1.0.
     
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  40. swift19

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    So no ps discount. Again. Shame. There must be a way to sort it through the in game store rather than the ps store.
     
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    I've been waiting for a remaster of this route for a very long time! And now this day has come. The news sounds good, I'm looking forward to the first reviews.

    Now we can start dreaming about the next LIRR expansion in the future. I'm really looking forward to DM30 when it appears.
     
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  42. mattchester#9176

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    This does not make it okay or fair. If you choose to offer your products on these platforms, please don't use them to try and justufy why you treat your customers unequally.
     
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  43. Game of Trains

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    That's good! The less the better given that it's likely they will break at some point, and we'll end up with forever broken achievement like in TSW2 and 3.
     
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  44. meMC83

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    Why couldn’t you have offered a PSN credit code along with the Xbox equivalent to those players who already own LIRR 1.0? Players could have sent an email with their GamerTag etc to make a claim. This always happens and it’s the same excuse every time - we couldn’t get it setup for this release. Why not? You know when it’s releasing!!!
     
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  45. florians#7620

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    I am curious to know how the SEHS Extended Route was handled differently comparered to this extention. Wasn’t the new SEHS free or at least had a large discount for all players across all platforms? I don‘t remember there being the same discussions there.
     
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  46. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Its really hard to like DTG at times, they do some good stuff and then pull the rug from under your feet in other areas.
     
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  47. Game of Trains

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    I don't understand this either. Did DTG run out of development time for this? I would imagine that having working door controls would be awesome in the conductor scenario.

    Also, how will this work for the M3 Add on? Do you still need to have the old LIRR route installed for the M3 to work? That would be silly.
     
  48. OnlyMe1909

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    Stunned... I am NOT going to pay full price for un update to a route I already paid for in full in the past... I fully expected a much lower price for players who own the original LIRR route. This will have to be on sale with a reduction of at least 50% before I'm interested.
     
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  49. AtherianKing

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    it kinda sounds like they wanted this addon released before a timeframe for the discounts available could come through from Sony and Microsoft.
     
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  50. rennekton#1349

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    It's because mta told them to probably due to the rise in people fooling around irl
     
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