Nope, as with all leaks they get plugged & we’re going back almost a year now. Make of it what you will, all I was doing was weighing on the fact that there was indeed more to it.
The more I think about it the more confused I am that they are releasing a new loco for a TSW2 route. And they’re not even updating the route. At least the 700 was released on an updated SEHS. It just seems totally out of place. Especially when the route itself is one of the shortest routes in the game.
It's possible the 380 was planned for a while but they waited to source the sounds for it, as for TOD4 I think there's still a chance it will get it, Alex's comment may not have been referring to the lighting and every other loco DLC for a legacy route has come with a TOD 4 upgrade, even Sherman Hill which was just for a livery pack so I don't see why they'd leave it for Cathcart especially when they can essentialy "resell it" like they did for Boston and Dresden
In all seriousness, I fired up the 380 in TSC on the Glasgow Airport route a few evenings ago. I lasted about 10 minutes. While the forward view is slightly better than the 385, it's smaller than the 314 (or even Electrostar). Added to which virtually no traction sound to keep you entertained - now we don't know how much sound the TSW version will provide but if it follows TSC makes for one boring train. They could have done a 320 or even the older 303/311 for a much more interesting experience.
Vern my best guess is it will reuse the 700 sounds but they could shock us (my best guess at this point )
I mean.. it looks strikingly similar to the 385 minus the gangways to me... Anyway, I'm not a big fan of EMUs so I see most of them as being the same in all honesty.
TSC version is very bad quality and is not realistic at all sounds wise and model wise is also pretty bad.
I hope that is the case SO BADLY. We've gone years without getting close to having a new freight loco, it is beyond needed.
At least you've got stuff there.. Wales has been completely ignored, so you've definitely got it better than we do here!
If that's the case it's probably a Mainline! If so I can't wait! JT always make high quality stuff so ethier way it'll be good. Which more Devs were like them! Rivet could do with taken a few pages outa their book.
Could just be dtg want to wait until the core game is better before making a Welsh route as there is less routes in Wales and if they mess up a route, they are unlikely to go back to it.
A million miles better than the 380/385.. why can't we get actual good trains like that in the game??
Fair point, I guess if it means the first Welsh route would be the best it can be and hopefully make for more routes then I'm happy with waiting... I think that's one issue that puts me off with having my local route in the game, I'll notice all the tiny faults because I see them in real life all the time, so although to anyone else they're tiny little problems, whereas for me it would be huge!
I don't think it looks that bad! There's definitely worse trains out there.. I can think of a few but won't say as not to offend anyone.
DTG still wanna avoid 3rd rail routes, for how much longer? Not sure, but I think it’s time to lift the ban though
then you will hate my suggestion lol https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/class-423-for-the-bml-and-brighton-mainline.80515/
I did Bournemouth to Waterloo on a 4VEP once. Great stuff! And Waterloo to Reading was quite a good run with them, too. TBH if we did get another third rail route, it needs to be on the South Western side rather then South East or Central Divisions, using the old BR geographic divide of the Southern Region.
Exactly. It’s just people speculating as per usual. I’ve been told this a million times before, but if it’s not on the road map then it’s not happening. You can’t take the slogan “Trust me bro” as a credible source.
I remember seeing the picture as it was posted on a thread at one point however haven't yet seen it on the roadmap and haven't seen nor heard anything of it since...
Hmm, maybe it was a planned dlc, but then later abandoned. Was it a post by DTG or a community member?
Looking forward to this, but like some others have said - It would have been better for the 380 to come with a route like the Ayrshire line or Inverclyde line, then ported back onto Cathcart with a TOD4 update.
We don’t need any more Scottish routes at all. What we need is third rail and or the west coast mainline
I believe it was a community post taken from a developers page on Facebook or whatever. I could be wrong though, my memory is something else.. and not in a good way.
Says you… I’d say the opposite and say we need all of Scotland in TSW. At least what’s possible anyway.
I would take the 156 leak with a grain of salt, ever since the editor launched publicly anyone can make a model and put in the game I would take the 156 leak with a grain of salt, any developer can add their own models into the game but it doesn't necessarily mean it's official. Here's an example with a WIP of a Class 25 by an artist (this is not official)
I'm pretty sure this 156 leak was before developers could add their own models into the game however it didn't really look as though it was in any particular station so could have been done outside of TSW..
Scotland isn’t represented enough, wales would be good, but the one DTG route and 2 Rivets isn’t anywhere near enough to cover the whole country.
Scotland has one less route than London does. It’s way more represented than wales, east Anglia or the WCML
yes it’s has more than wales, London is a city, and no it isn’t represented enough Enough is too much no more, nothing is enough.
I was hoping the class 380 cab view might be better than the class 385, but no, it's another postage stamp.
Looks like the throttle is blended rather than notched, it will at least be a different experience to the 314
I'm going to guess that the 380 is DLC set for the new UK route set in the same 3-6 window. It can then be timetabled in on the existing routes if required. Not my personal preference, but if Scotrail are openly inviting DTG and the others to map and make the trains, then it's an obvious benefit to get as many of the Scotrail class trains into the game. These can then hopefully be modified to suit other areas of the UK for future releases. I see no negatives bar the mindset being on trains of the last 20 years.
That would be good, but I don't imagine there will be 4 Scottish DLC in such a small space of time unfortunately.
All these Lowland routes are skirting round the edge of what many of us want, though. Something in the hills! Kyle, Far North, Highland Main Line, WCML North, West Highland/Oban, GSW, Stranraer and the Port Road.
Is Cathcart Circle being upgraded to TOD4 alongside the 380 DLC? Hopefully something is done to the ballast on the route. It seems to have gone very weird and ugly looking.
Q: What year will the new Cathcart Circle timetable be set in? We'll share more news on the Class 380, including the Cathcart timetable, closer to the release of the add-on. To keep expectations set, there currently aren't any plans to update Cathcart Circle route features alongside the Class 380. Alex in the April Roadmap thread
Scotland's rugged geography is hardly conducive to a rail network, so I think they are doing pretty well in TSW. Another factor to take into account is population, there are over 9 million people living in London alone compared to just 5.5 million living in Scotland, so yes London definitely needs more representation in the game..
