New Just Trains Route - Suggestions/ Speculation

How about Western Main Lines route Taunton to St Austell set in the same year as Cornish Main Line Penzance St Austell? Another one is ECML North EDN to Newcastle Upon Tyne both are JT TSC routes

 

On Train Sim Classic, Just Trains have done an exceptional job of building out growing networks from their existing routes, with Western Mainlines comprising 5 routes and Midland Main Line up to 7 now I believe.

I would love them to take a similar approach to Preston, first off complete the Calder Valley Line, which runs from Blackpool North across to Leeds and down to Manchester - although that becomes a lot bigger than your normal TSW release, so maybe Leeds first, then Manchester as a further add-on.

Then they could expand the West Coast Main Line from Preston, initially linking down Manchester and Liverpool to give a lot of varied running, before heading up to Carlisle.

Failing that do something completely different, I didn't know I needed Blackpool in TSW until Just Trains released one of the best routes in the game, I'm sure whatever their next project is will be equally well received.

 

What does he mean by "its a whole new skillset"?

 

I believe Train Sim Classic has it's own game engine, TSW uses the Unreal Engine and is very different to build stuff in.

Just Trains, while considerably smaller than DTG, has more devs than ATS, and they took 18 months to do their first route, their second one looks like it's going to be 12 months after Blackpool. If we can get into a pattern of third parties each releasing one route per year the game will be very healthy, but it's going to take time to get there.

 

Having done a few drives on WCML Shap in TSC the last couple of days and comparing with the extent of BPO in TSW, I fear hopes for a large chunk of the WCML might, after all be a bit too much. Would be a massive undertaking more than twice the length of BPO once you factor in all the yards and side lines around Carlisle that would need to be represented. Even Carnforth, shadow of its former self, would still provide a significant challenge to build.

So we probably need to temper our wishes and expectations towards something more realistic, unfortunately.

 

I am really excited about another Just Trains route. You just know that Tom and his team will produce another stunning route full of accurate scenery and the attention to detail that JTs strive so hard to provide and will be excellent, once more.

l would love to see their excellent Metropolitan Line, they produced for TSC in the game or a totally new route not included in TSC. Manchester to Crewe via Stockport and Manchester Airport, or Manchester to Stoke.

 

I'd love for it to be York to Newcastle and Scarborough.
TPE Class 185
TPE Class 802
Northern Class 195
Cross Country 220/221 Voyager
LNER Azuma (800/801)

 

JT could do a spectacular job on that!

 

As much as I'd love another modern route,
Something around the Late BR/ Early privatisation era would be better.
Need some Network SE content

 

I would like Ashford to Ramsgate via Dover including the Folkestone Harbour branch and Canterbury.

 

Set it in the 80s for some nice stock to play with. Dover Western Docks/Marine as well? I can wish.

I remember watching 33's run up the Folkestone Harbour branch in the mid-80's.

 

Honestly as long as its not slam doors ill buy it

 

After thrashing the 47 a bit more on BPO, I'm actually hoping it's something where we can give it a longer run and over some gradients. Something like Inverness to Aviemore over Schlod Summit would be great, especially if it also included part of the Far North/Kyle Line out to Dingwall and we got a 37/4 or even better a Class 26!

 

I'm sure it'll be something set in the British Rail Era, as that has always proven popular and easier to license for.

 

I have found the DTG team developing the next route and locos for TSW5. They say owners look like their pets, do Devs look like their projects?

 

I'd love to see BPO extended (or even just have connecting services), so that I could start in Blackpool and drive the same service to Leeds or Manchester in the next route (even if it's a trip to the menu inbetween). While you can kinda do this with some of the SE/London routes, it's never been planned purposely and, given JT's track record in TSC, I'm confident they'd make it as seamless as possible.

All that being said, i'm day 1 on whatever their next project is.

 

Metropolitan Line. Modern. Licensed by TfL.

 

I'd love something with the 33 in!
We need more from that wonderful little thing!

 

I think it could be one of two routes.




Hope Valley Line - Manchester To Sheffield Via Guide Bridge - Northern Class 195(NEW LOCO) and East Midlands Class 158 (2nd Loco)

An Intresting Change to a Modern Route, Also Quite Scenic, something JT is strong at, would be quite cool to see JT do something more modern as appose to BR era


South Devon Mainline - Plymouth To Exeter And Paignton Set In The Mid 1980s - Class 43 Valenta HST (Reused Loco), Class 117 Br Blue Livery (new loco)

Again sticking with the 80s br era, something which JT have a really good profession at, a route which is very needed, and beautiful in real life, seeing the Dawlish sea wall would be very cool in tsw

 

Great, but pretty far and a lot of trains for a smaller team, I wouldn’t even put it to DTG (as the biggest team) to be able to pull off normally

sounds very separate like aswell, not one that would come as one.

don’t get me wrong though JT covering BR era ECML and DTG covering modern era ECML is nice sounding.

 

I’m pretty confident in saying TSC is easier to develop for than TSW (no allotted time for a full 24 hour timetable for one ), ECML north is scenic and long (I think it would be the longest route in the game) those 2 things don’t match up with TSW routes currently and not even more with a smaller team than DTG.

 

Huge +1 on Merseyrail, although you'd have to question how much would be done. I'm sure JT wouldn't do just the Ormskirk- Liverpool Central line. Adding in the Kirkby branch from Walton Junction would be "easy" at only 3 stations, but then you'd still have the huge run up the other Northern line to Southport missing, and that's quite a few stations to add, not to mention adding the stations the other side of Central to make up the run down to Garston (I think it was still Garston around the late 80s??). I don't doubt JT's ambition would be to do all the Northern lines, but that's a huge undertaking! The Southport line alone is an extra 19 or 20 stations depending on how Garston/South Parkway/Hunts Cross was set up around then.

 

I would like Just Trains to recreate for us the Great Western Express as it was done in TS. For me, any era of this route is of great interest.
If I'm not mistaken, then DTG also refused to extend its Great Western Express base route. And this section was reworked and extended by Just Trains. After connecting them to the development, we received a complete highway.
I don't think that they will connect to the Midlen Main Line expansion (this is their other big project in TS), after Skyhook announced their intentions to do so.
I admit that they can continue their work on the Preston-Carlisle or Preston-Crewe section (they like to develop network projects).
However, they announced to us that this would be something new that would pull the rug out from under our feet. I don’t even know what to assume. Could it really be the Metropolitan Line?
Or the Welsh lines, which we don't have yet. Or maybe one of the sections of the East Coast Main Line, for example Newcastle-Edinburgh, as was the case in TS.
And finally they can take on another classic route like Liverpool-Manchester or Woodhead! In any case, I expect Just Trains to make a splash with their new route.

 

A fully rebuilt GWE with ALL Thames Valley branches gets my vote even if it kills off the current rendition, as would the Woodhead Route but this should definitely be set at the time the infrastructure was at its peak (1950s to 1960s). Only time will tell.

 

Let me guess you want the Western Main Lines TSC route although there was a mod to have an electrified version

 

What is ATS???

 

Alan Thomson Simulations, the new developer.

 

Alan thomson sim. The team in tsc that made the ecml merge and is working on the wcml

 

I thought that the ATS route was using existing stock?

 

I said for tsc. I haven't followed tsc in a while so idk how much progress they've made

 

Did you pull that one out your butt for TSW or are you talking about tsc????

 

Well we don’t know what ATS are working on or if the project is even still alive.

 

I personally believe that Just Trains could do justice to the following 3 routes and would hope it might be one of these, however I may very well be wrong. The routes are...

Woodhead Route Manchester London Road (Picadilly) to Sheffield Victoria with Class 76, 77 and 506 stock during the late 1950s or early 1960s.

Chiltern Mainline London Marylebone to Banbury and Aylesbury with Class 165/0, 168, 170 and/or Class 67 or 68 with Mk3 + DVT rakes. In modern period, but potentially the older rendition during the time of Class 115 dmus.

Bury DC Line Manchester Victoria to Bury with Class 504 during the NTP period. However, this route is somewhat short for a full release and might be better included with a NTP rebuild. Class 504 were unique to BR as they used a 1200v DC side contact 3rd rail pick up system, not used anywhere else.

I truly believe that JT could really do these routes justice but am excited to see what it turns out to be. JT raised the bar to phenomenal levels with Blackpool Branches that nobody else has yet come close to matching, let alone bettering.

 

There was a very old Railscene video archived to You Tube showing a Manchester to Bury cab ride with a 504. Now those things were loud!

 

I believe during the roadmap stream, they commented saying it was progressing slowly but surely. So fingers crossed we get an update soon!

 

Watched it about 6 weeks ago. Awesome Time, sadly replaced by characterless trams.

 

Did you not read my original post. I mentioned tsc which I played a few years ago and they were still working on creating the entire wcml. If it was tsw, I would have said so

 

I believe that JT will bring, as I already said, a BR era route. As for ATS, I think they'll carry a current UK route (Chiltern?). Surely the JT creation will include the Pacers and a new unit. I think it will be electric (locomotive or an old generation EMU).

 

Probably already said this somewhere, but I feel they'll work with the Pacer, go for a modern setting when they were still in use.

Either that, or they'll build off Preston, maybe WCML Preston to Carlisle.

 

Lancaster to barrow/morecambe/Heysham would suit the current stock available in TSW, similar time period as BPO, nice little network. Can't wait whatever they produce as it will be made with love, care and attention to detail.

 

Preston to Carlisle with Morecambe branch I'd wager.

 

Another late curved ball from me.

How about something Southern Region but diesel based? Part of Portsmouth - Southampton - Salisbury - Westbury. New train a 3H Hampshire “Thumper” with the Class 31’s and 33’s hauling reskinned (or preferably new) Mark One consists.

 

Take my money now. Thumpers are long overdue.

 

Any prediction on when it will come out

 

I recon the first teaser will be in the summer.

 

Yessss that would be 100% day one for me! We do need somewhere else for the 33 properly and a reskin is always welcome! And the 31 is a great loco needs more use. A thumper would be great fun too.

 

It was initially put on the 4-6 month window of the April roadmap, then moved to TBC as it was too early to commit to a firm deadline, so it sounds like about 6-7 months away. It will probably be the first DLC available for TSW5, much like Blackpool was for TSW4.

 

Another Thumper mini network could be the Oxted lines from East Croydon to East Grinstead (pre electrification) and Uckfield, throw in Eridge to Tunbridge Wells for good measure. Motive power would be the Class 207 (3D) "Oxted" DEMU's which I always thought looked quite stylish being a fairly late build, with of course Class 33 hauled peak services to/from Uckfield.

 

I have mentioned it before but Crewe to Preston would be good, its a good length drive for TSW and could have a branch element say to Fiddlers Ferry PS or similar, BPO works well because its a decent drive but isn't too long, it has a variety of service types and is good for a spotting session or sitting in a signal box. The network style routes are often good as they give a selection of options yet don't require the dev teams to map half a country out. Those calling for full ECML or WCML need to realise they are not going to get it.

 

Probably already mentioned it but something based off Lancaster might be a possibility. The Morecambe/Heysham branch then down to Oxenholme and Windermere would be more in the scope of what we might expect in terms of mileage. We mustn’t forget this is a small team working in their spare time (I believe their main route builder is a Blackpool tram driver!) so you are going to get the type of route that can be worked on an hour or two in the evening, or a day off if the wife isn’t nagging you to sort the garden out or do some decorating.