Shadow Banned On Youtube

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  1. ginge420

    ginge420 New Member

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    Why aren’t my comments being allowed to be shown on your YouTube channel. I haven’t said anything hateful, no swearing, no spam. The most negative thing I had said was calling someone out for calling people names saying that wasn’t very nice. I never broke any of the community guidelines. Clearly one of your moderators has a personal agenda. I have bought nearly every single one of your dlc’s , almost on both consoles. And I’m not allowed to voice my opinion - within your community guidelines. I’m appalled. This is how you treat your valued customers. Disappointed. I’m referring to the latest video posted on the channel, my YouTube name is Solar Peel. AustraliaWorldWideGaming is calling people bots and telling them to leave, is he one of your moderators - has he got a personal vendetta against me and shadow banned me? This shouldn’t be happening. Potatoman451 also may be behind it as he answers everyone as if he is a moderator, I sparked a discussion with him as well maybe he didn’t like that and decided to punt me out. My only gripe, is that I have not been notified, nor have I had warning or any such thing. Again - I should be able to voice my opinion and concerns within the guidelines stipulated. And I shouldn’t be alienated because my views don’t line up with your moderators.
     
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  2. ginge420

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    It’s all videos, I’m shadow banned from everything. What did I do wrong ? Thousands of pounds I’ve spent and you are removing me from the community, for what?!
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    If YouTube think you're violating their guidelines, they will remove your comments. Nothing to do with DTG.
     
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  4. ginge420

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    Yea fair, I mean I haven’t said anything untoward at all. No bad language, nothing, I did call out that guy for calling people names tho maybe he reported me
     
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    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    YouTube is very lazy at removing comments on their own and sometimes react weeks later, even if a single comment clearly violates guidelines. Sometimes they even let inappropriate content and accounts alive.

    There is an automatic algorithm which filters spam alike comments, and these get into a queue for the channel admin, to decide whether or not they accept the respective comment nonetheless but this is not the thing OP describes.

    What OP is referring is the fact that every YouTube channel can have other (normal) users/channels assigned for chat and/or comment moderation. OP is argueing about those people, not YouTube.
     
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  6. ginge420

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    Also, I comment on YouTube all the time , usually a lot more harsh to be completely honest on tsw I’m family friendly, never been banned before - it’s shadow banned though, my comments still post but if you sign out they aren’t there anymore
     
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  7. ginge420

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    Yes! It says on the community guidelines that they have their own moderators. I think I’ve called out a moderator for bad behaviour and they have banned me
     
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    Those peoples arent mods of the TSW channel. At least I'm sure for "AustraliaWorldWideGaming". Anything to say about that all aboard railways mmh ? Not really nice to call people bots if they have a different opinion.
     
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    ginge420 If you can provide some evidence that would be helpful. Is there a message that pops up, or do the comments just disappear after posting? If it's the latter then it's likely YouTube has marked it as 'held for review', which means DTG would manually need to approve the comments individually. I suspect filtering through the list isn't on their list of priorities so there's nothing you can really do about it, even if you're not saying anything wrong.
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    For example, the comment in the image above is a completely normal comment on one of my videos, the only high-quality upload of Lhuna by Coldplay (a very rare song) on YouTube. Despite this YouTube has marked it as being problematic, perhaps because of the use of emojis but I couldn't say for certain.
     
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    So, my comments are still there to me, I’ve had no notifications or anything pop up, it comes up saying that my comment has been posted. It’s only until I sign out of YouTube and look at the video that I can then see that none of my comments are actually there.
     
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    In that case they've most likely been held for review. One of the moderators on here might see this thread and get the comments unhidden but I doubt it's worth pursuing it any further.
     
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  12. Spikee1975

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    Sounds like you have been shadow banned by an AI algorithm (these can collect all data / posts that can be traced to your identity elsewhere).
     
  13. ginge420

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    It’s only only tsw videos though ‍
     
  14. Spikee1975

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    You can contact DTG support or send a DM to one of the community managers, maybe they can solve the issue.

    I recently got banned on Steam Community, which was a mistake that was quickly resolved contacting their support. Reason was I edited a post multiple times that was still awaiting approval (it contained a harmless link to this forum), and the algorithm kicked in.
     
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  15. ginge420

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    Yea, fair enough,, I doubt they will make my comments visible, they won’t like the fact I don’t like the video - but that’s beside the point, I’m allowed an opinion, wether they like it or not, as long as I follow the community guidelines. It’s sad because I love tsw4 I think they really turned things around with it, and I have a lot of good to say. Now I feel alienated. I hope it is just an algorithm thing and they’ve not yet got round to doing something about it
     
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    Yea I got in touch with support, it’s just a bit of a funny one as I’m not exactly singing their praises so they probably won’t approve it, but I most certainly have not broken any guidelines. If they disapprove with what I say fine and don’t want it seen, fine - I guess, but I feel like a total ban from the community is a bit harsh. As I say worst thing I said was to the guy calling people names saying he won’t be getting a dovetail ambassador badge anytime soon acting like that lol
     
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    I was banned on day one of using The Student Room after I called out someone for comparing another person to a specific German political party that was primarily active in the 1930s and 40s. I also had a post marked as awaiting approval on Coldplaying for half a year which slipped under the radar of the moderators.

    Things like the OP's issue are quite common in my experience.
    Assuming your comments were negative, it depends more on how it is being said. However, sometimes the bot gets it wrong and occasionally censors things that don't need censoring, or the other way around.
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    That was a comment that was on one of my videos. They posted that after I said (in a comment on another video) that I believe High Speed 2 is a good thing that should be built. I can't remember if it was put into the 'held for review' bin or not, but I did find it quite funny so I replied saying 'Love you too xx' and hearted it as well.
    Personally I'd recommend discussing these things on this forum. DTG do take feedback presented here (although they don't always implement it...) and it is much clearer when it comes to moderation too.
     
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  18. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Hello ginge420 - sorry to hear you've been experiencing issues. Please DM me your YouTube username, and I can check the back-end to see if anything's amiss.
     
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  19. ginge420

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    They are somewhat controversial , sort of like fighting fire with fire. But I don’t think it’s inappropriate
     

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    This is why I limit commenting and getting involved in social media debates. These forums are probably the place where I am most active on.

    Why do these dramas erupt? Social media can be a scourge some times, despite its advantages. I am glad it didn't exist when I was growing up.
     
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    Yeah, they don't look like they've crossed the lines to me. Stuff far worse than that gets posted here all the time.
    It doesn't apply to everyone (and if the OP's reading this bit I'm not talking about you) but I find that YouTube does have a higher than average amount of people who are confident yet unknowledgeable. For example, videos of trains having people comment blatantly false information on them that they do believe but that wasn't corrected or researched. Currently I'm having an ongoing debate about the car models in Gran Turismo 7. For context, the cars in Gran Turismo Sport and 7 that have returned from the PlayStation 3 games which were high-quality 'Premium' models were not remodelled for Gran Turismo Sport and onwards. However, there is a common misconception that they were because of minor differences in the model, a higher polycount and new textures. However, the cars were laser-scanned or modelled using CAD data for the PS3 games onwards, so in modern GT games the cars are using higher poly versions of those original models with new textures and sounds. Despite the fact that the cars are clearly the same (if they were working from scratch, why would Polyphony Digital go out of their way to find the exact model of car that they modelled between 2005 and 2015?) I still get people telling me I know nothing about modelling or the games themselves.

    Some of my favourite comments include:
    "You can't just tune up a 3D model to give it more polygons. It is almost impossible and waste of time to upgrade existing 3D models by hand." - You can manually increase the polygon count of a 3D model, but that isn't what the developers did anyway.
    "Only the cars in gt sport that made it self in updates might be retextured gt6 premiums, but not in gt7 the premiums the bring back in gt7 is remodeled you can see this by how even more detailed they are than the premiums they brought back from gt sport" - The PS5 is more powerful than the PS4, so naturally cars jumping straight from the PS3 to PS5 will look better.
    "You have no idea what you're talking about.. GT cars after GT Sport were built from the ground up, not only that, but 1 single car takes months to build!" - No, they weren't.
    "no they're not. I played GT5/6 right after playing GT7 and they look nothing alike. Despite looking great for the time they were developed, they are not the same model as many details are lacking - details which are present in GT7 such as dashboard material and odometer details." - Textures, textures, textures...
     
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    That aussie world wide gaming dude is an utter comment nazi. If a comment doesn't fit "their" narrative, they will be removed
     
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  23. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community and Marketing Staff Member

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    Hey folks. Just to confirm outcome here. OP was on the hidden list, possibly from an interaction on a stream.

    It may have been a misclick (monitoring fast-moving chat is tough!), so I've removed them from the list, and they should be able to post again now. Locking this thread as resolved.
     
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