Class 20 Appreciation Post

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Trainiac, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. Trainiac

    Trainiac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,057
    Likes Received:
    4,141
    I don’t see a lot of people talk about the Class 20, I know it’s quite an old DLC but I think it’s still very good, just as good as the 31 (which seems to get more attention). It’s got a good model, good sounds and is fun to drive with the added bonus of a working hotplate and some locos having worn out horns (I believe 20 118, 122, 059, 090, 104, 023 all have unique forward horns) and that’s not even mentioning it’s most obvious and most unique feature, one cab with 2 desks.
    upload_2024-4-19_14-17-33.jpeg
    upload_2024-4-19_14-17-47.jpeg
    The 20 can be used on a lot of routes mostly for rail tours but if you’re driving freight on TVL there’s some driving challenge since it’s not as powerful as the 31 and much much weaker than the 37; If you find you’re self driving from the front desk it also adds a little more challenge because of the small window.
    upload_2024-4-19_14-36-10.jpeg
    If you have the 20, use if some more, if you don’t have have I recommend at least having a look at what is has to offer.
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2024
    • Like Like x 19
  2. Thorgred

    Thorgred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2018
    Messages:
    662
    Likes Received:
    320
    already played it a lot :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. Strat-tastic

    Strat-tastic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2024
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    362
    I think it's the best-sounding loco, at least in my collection, idling, at full chat up the Lickey, and yes the horns are good fun too.
    Get the windows open, give it some thrash and I'll be grinning from ear to ear!
     
    • Like Like x 3
  4. Crosstie

    Crosstie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    5,640
    Likes Received:
    12,937
    Thoroughly agree. I'm currently running the Class 20 timetable layer on Blackpool Branches and having a lot of fun with it.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Pipe

    Pipe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2022
    Messages:
    2,085
    Likes Received:
    4,364
    The Class 20 is one of those older locos that transpire love and dedication from the creators to me. Worn out, old heavy iron, tricky brakes on a loud beast. A classic workhorse with long operation hours. Love to take her on TVL. And - inspired by foreposters - I'll have run on BPO. That should be fun.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. Strat-tastic

    Strat-tastic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2024
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    362
    Are they freight, passenger, or both?
     
  7. Trainiac

    Trainiac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,057
    Likes Received:
    4,141
    Passenger
     
  8. Strat-tastic

    Strat-tastic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2024
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    362
    Excellent! BPO is on my list to get so that should be another motivator :)
     
  9. MYG92

    MYG92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2019
    Messages:
    3,156
    Likes Received:
    6,030
    The Class 20 is really underrated, being released on TSW OG, till this day I still find it to be well made, the sound is beautiful to my ears and what a pleasure to put a double unit, then thrash them. I also like that tiny detail with the stove burner, when turning it on, we can see the coil resistance turning red.
     
  10. trainguy#6029

    trainguy#6029 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2023
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    886
    Definitely one of my favourite locos in the game! I do find it a little annoying that the rear horns often sound much better than the front facing horns, I noticed you mentioned "worn out horns" but you only mentioned two having that - every one I drive has it on the flat end for me, but not the horns on the nose end annoyingly.. another issue I have is that the engine is quieter with the windows open!
    Other than those little bugs it's an amazing add-on and thankfully the bugs mentioned aren't huge issues, for me at least.

    Anyway, definitely a great add-on and I wish we could see it in more routes; I would absolutely love to do a railtour with it on SEHS and all other modern routes for that matter, and see it on more older routes too of course - without using free roam preferably...
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2024
  11. Trainiac

    Trainiac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,057
    Likes Received:
    4,141
    I’m going through the locos now to find find any more with worn horns, I’ll add then to the og post
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. explorer#6075

    explorer#6075 Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2022
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    29
    I’ve not tried it yet but it’s on my list. Any old BR diesels get my vote and it’s good to let DTG know they’re appreciated.
     
  13. trainguy#6029

    trainguy#6029 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2023
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    886
    Okay, sorry.. this is an appreciation post and I'm here posting some bugs about it.. I should put that in the feedback thread instead! ;)
     
  14. Caravatt

    Caravatt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2023
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    1,323
    It would be nice to see it some way back in time, compared to the late 80's. It would be great to see a 20 in BR Blue or Green era, alongside a 03/05 and a 25/35. In an old route from the late 50's - early 60's!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2023
    Messages:
    6,415
    Likes Received:
    7,683
    In all the time I've had the Class 20, never once have I actually used it.

    Should give it a go some time.
     
  16. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2020
    Messages:
    18,534
    Likes Received:
    37,575
    It really needs its own route to do it justice. Nottinghamshire coalfield with summer Saturday holiday trains to Skegness. Sign me up on Day One.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  17. lcyrrjp

    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2019
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    2,297
    Mainly freight in real life, but they did get used on passenger services from time to time - mainly additional services in summer. They almost always worked in pairs, coupled nose to nose, so as to limit the amount of running with the Driver having a very restricted view along the side of the loco.
     
  18. Strat-tastic

    Strat-tastic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2024
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    362
    I meant the services on BPO :)
     
  19. spikeyorks

    spikeyorks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2023
    Messages:
    1,206
    Likes Received:
    1,945
    My TSW4 really appreciates the CL20.
    So much so that any attempt to make a scenario with a pair of 37s in it results in a pair of 20s appearing instead. :o :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Strat-tastic

    Strat-tastic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2024
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    362
    The 37s sound ok but not quite there, but the 20s are pretty bang on for my ears.
     
  21. spikeyorks

    spikeyorks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2023
    Messages:
    1,206
    Likes Received:
    1,945
    Actually I'm hoping to get some CL20 Jolly Fisherman type formations into the game so that we can run double-headed 10 coach services.

    Hopefully these will look good on PFR and TVL.
    If everything works out I'll put some screenshots up on this thread (probably next week).:)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  22. lcyrrjp

    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2019
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    2,297
    Ah, well in that case…passenger!
     
    • Like Like x 1
  23. Strat-tastic

    Strat-tastic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2024
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    362
    Just got BPO; here we go...
     
    • Like Like x 1
  24. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2024
    Messages:
    285
    Likes Received:
    628
    I do really like the class 20 and the BPO route; my favourite feature would have to be the working fire Bell test :)
     
  25. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2021
    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    5,152
    One of my favourite UK locos.

    TSW3_Meridian_1696705319_00.png

    IMG_2023.10.21-17.34.07.jpg
     
  26. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2022
    Messages:
    5,659
    Likes Received:
    10,271
    Agreed, a very nice loco and really wish we could return to having loco dlcs like this. I have always enjoyed the 20, and it does look good in the BR blue liveries available on Creators club. Would be very nice to see it be part of a more dedicated route, supplemented by a 56.
    If I may I will attach a couple of screenshots:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 6
  27. trlz#8165

    trlz#8165 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2023
    Messages:
    1,036
    Likes Received:
    452
    I also love the class 20 , sounds great one of the best sounding diesels in TSW .their sound is very similar to old ALCO S series switchers here in US they used back in the day some still exist in museums shortline industrial use today
     
  28. Cyklisten

    Cyklisten Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2019
    Messages:
    445
    Likes Received:
    621
    Just don't touch the hot plate ;) Yes, I like this loco as well, should use it more than I do...
     
  29. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2019
    Messages:
    2,750
    Likes Received:
    4,920
    Yeah the class 20 is one of my favourites as well, just sounds and feels alive, clanking and banging away, on full throttle it's incredible on a heavy load.
     
  30. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2020
    Messages:
    968
    Likes Received:
    1,510
    The class 20 just seems to be a bigger brother of the class 08 or gonk. Just finished the Tee side timetable with it, very nice loco, it has a lot of detail, sounds good. Would love to get more use out of it on other routes.
     
  31. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2019
    Messages:
    2,750
    Likes Received:
    4,920
    It has services on WSR as well. As well as Cathcart Circle and Blackpool Branches.
     
  32. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2020
    Messages:
    968
    Likes Received:
    1,510
    WSR is nice, but not nice as it has all the trains you love retired and running 20mph. Blackpool should be good, is the cathcart heritage?
     
  33. disco#7930

    disco#7930 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2023
    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    495
    Great Loco.
    I would love this and the 31 to get the TOD4 upgrade, plus the Just Trains BPO exhaust emissions.
    To me, it's one of the best sounding units in the game, just needs to be utilised more on future routes.
     
  34. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2019
    Messages:
    2,750
    Likes Received:
    4,920
    WSR is heritage but it's also got big gradients and the class 20 with six or seven carriages does work hard and makes plenty of noise.

    Cathcart Circle isn't heritage but it doesn't have the highest speeds however it runs non stop to it's locations so plenty of noise
     
  35. warpshell

    warpshell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2020
    Messages:
    968
    Likes Received:
    1,510
    Ok, at least Cathcart is a service, would love a bit of speed.
     

Share This Page