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Wow.... This route looks extremely promising

 

Plunge taken and preordered.

 

Can we please have manuals with every release? There really isn't an excuse anymore now that full manuals like this have been produced.

 

Let alone now a tutorial video is now coming out for this route. This should be the standard going forward with every release.

 

So did i

 

The manual is brilliant.

 

This route looks so good! On the steam store page pictures some are incredibly nice!

 

I was looking forward to this day with great anticipation! Instant purchase, it's already mine! Now I have new expectations for LIRR expansion! DTG don’t put its sequel in the drawer for too long!

 

Disagree the route introduction is fine for that

 

Not if it’s in the Training Centre. That can’t show you how the signalling and other systems work as the route is entirely unsignalled…

 

DTG Alex. Please would you explain why the loyalty discount is only available to Steam players and NOT to those who play on console? What is the reasoning behind this decision?

 

The discounts is up to Microsoft and Sony for consoles its the same with sells. Game pass users have the discount wich is quiet possible most users on xbox. Playstation users are getting nothing.
It a pass for me definitely on ps5 manly down to not getting a discount, I'm not paying full price for a route I own, there's a few players that will agree with me on that

 

It’s a joke no 20% discount for Consoles

 

The 20% as split is 10% pre order and 10% loyalty discount.
Gampass gets a 10% discount
Playstation gets nothing

 

One of the community staff explained but they basically couldn't get it set up because Microsoft and Sony didn't approve it this time

 

And the pre-TSW3 tutorials, which were on the routes, also didn't explain the safety systems...

 

Not being an expert on this - but isn't the US cab signalling the most easy to follow safety system?

Always keep to the lowest speed displayed, and when speeding, put the brake into Suppression and cancel the alert.

 

It's even easier with LIRR. The system brakes FOR YOU

 

How boring

 

Nah the fun is in knowing and predicting where those cab signal drops will happen and braking in advance

 

This looks really outstanding. If there’s one route I wished you guys would hit a home run on, it’s this one. Nice job, can’t wait.

 

Watching the broadcast yesterday, you could see how the route has transformed. Many more trains in motion, in the yards, the atmosphere...

Since Goblin Line, I've noticed that the route environments are more immersive. And this is also the case for LIRR 2.0. As much as there are complaints that several assets were reused and the price, as much as I'm on Steam, all the work that went into this remaster deserves its value, because it's not something simple to do. And another, it's not a route from point A to B, but rather one with several branches, which for me is a lot of fun due to the various possibilities of lines and intersections.

Congratulations to the DTG team for resurrecting this great route. First day purchase for me...

 

Yeah it looks stunning! And re-used assets is a normal situation! You can not create for every route a complete new assets setup. People they complain about such things have no clue how this works i think.

 

After watching the stream and looking through the screenshots ( which were quite stunning ) I preordered. This was my first purchase since Blackpool Branches I think and I'm not seeing anything in the Roadmap that will tug at my wallet later this year.

I won't miss GCM or the 3rd rail on the main line, but I do wish DTG would have included some freight in the route. I would have waited a little longer.They need to think hard about doing this for future routes. It would make a huge difference to me and I'm sure to others. NYT and this little network are poorer without it.

 

I was too very impressed with what l saw during the streaming and agree that Blackpool, Goblin, Semmering and now LIRR all excel with the realism of the route. Blackpool still leads the way but DTGs three releases since are pretty close. Great to see the improvement in the quality, just hope Fife Circle and some of the previous routes can be brought in line.

 

Well, DTG does not have a license with NY&A so that is one stop. Also, they would only operate up and down the main line to Hicksville on the route we have. Sure it would be nice, but the legal hassle of the license agreements would not be worth it to DTG for the few trains it would give us. That is the cold, hard truth of business.

 

I get that, but I just wonder if DTG are making a serious effort to acquire these licenses.
I don't look forward to US routes which are strictly passenger from now on.

Of course they already have a catalog of freight locos. I hope we see some of these appearing in upcoming passenger routes.

 

I would take unbranded freight layers over none at all. Paint in historic New York Central or Pennsylvania colours but minus the name, would do for a quick glimpse of AI.

 

Or rather artificially use CSX rolling stock, which exists in the area at least.

 

Freight on this line is unless without the Entire Ronkonkoma branch not which we see wasn’t added so no point

 

Also remember that the NY&A tend to run at night when the LIRR is not doing a lot, so during the peak running time for this dlc, no freight is going to be there.

 

Part of me wishes DTG would make a BNSF GP38-2 or GP39-2 for San Bernardino for the Kaiser yard area (IRL they use GP60's, but DTG isnt gonna make a new freight loco for a Passenger route)

 

There is hypocrisy in dtg's concept of loyalty.According to them, It is me who have to take the whole cost again for the same (almost) product, NOT them who are not going to participate in costs, selling practically just a big upgrade of existing dlc. Loyalty is mutual relation, dear DTG. Don't find me wrong Im willing to participate in proprtional costs of this product, but not on your ill conditions.

 

This is a big problem. If DTG is not willing to use its current stable of freight locos and integrate them into passenger routes, even as AI, then the future for US freight is bleak. As solicitr suggested why not toss a CSX GP40-2 onto the main line in LIRR2 even as AI. Maybe we gIve up a little authenticity just to get some diversity

 

LIRR MP15 is what we need.

 

I'd love to see that- i get that lack of cab signalling limits playable services- but it's more about adding atmosphere IMO, so AI-only would be fine with me. Even Harlem has some static stock, at least.

I think DTG are WAY too rigid with stuff like this on US content. Semmeringbahn gets a Class 47 railtour, but some CSX or NS AI trains on LIRR or NYT is too unrealistic?

 

It wasn’t that it wasn’t unrealistic, they stated that the AI freight on NY - Trenton caused the route to lag to much. Apparently the timetable is so big that it couldn’t handle the extra traffic.

 

Matt. I would say yes to both. I think must of us in here understands that it’s getting very difficult to get the appropriate locos do to licensing constraints . In either case we also have the option just to turn off the layer if players choose not to use it. I feel the more the better. At least IMO.

 

Ideally, I would like a BNSF GP38-2 with the ES44C4 subbing from from Cajon Pass.

Also its not like you already have some references for a BNSF GP38-2 in game already....

The SD40-2 from Cajon, could probably take the cab and AC units from it and kitbash it onto the UP GP38-2 model to make something somewhat accurate. (Given if its possible to take bits and parts from one loco to another in a 3d editor software.


Also not all BNSF GP38-2s are the same, yes some have different headlight and ditch light configurations....



Could also use the CSX one for a base or ask Skyhook for their NS ones.


But of course, I'm not sure the timeline for San Bernardino's development would allow this to happen.....


If all else fails, just have the Cajon SD40-2's do work there with the ES44C4's bringing cars to and from Barstow.

The UP traffic on Cajon that runs from Barstow to/from the cutoff is still MIA.

 

The latter wasn't true, they were planned to represent the CSAO operations on the line itself (Which uses NS and CSX equipment), but it cause too many issues so they were scrapped.

 

just wondering does the new LIRR require more than 16gbs of ram?

 

It is funny how you "play" with circumstances, considering we still have clownish/rear boogie flipper ac4400 in Cane Creek, wrong thunder storm sd70aces in CP, or completely broken loco substitution among us freight routes (opposite to polished german stable). Cheers.

 

I’ve now watched the LIRR 2.0 stream and I am suitably impressed by what DTG and cActUsjUiCe has achieved on this route. It is completely transformed, looks superb and appears to work brilliantly. I was so impressed that I may just go ahead and buy it on Day One - despite my grievance that PlayStation owners of the original route get nothing in way of a loyalty discount.

DTG: If you can’t give a loyalty discount to every player on every platform, you shouldn’t give it to anyone. Always leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

 

Not just a bad taste it could lead to less sales of the dlc on the platform that doesn't get the loyalty discount specially a route that most people own like long island. Some people will just wait for a sale to pick it with I'd what I'm doing and then get a better discount. This isn't DTG fault this is Sonys fault

 

I don't remember that at all.

Yet you continually stated you were going to do it and kept getting asked about when it would be released.

Except of course for when it's all day, like the 1972 stock on GWE...

 

Rather have that than nothing at all

 

Yes I was thinking of that old model from the original NEC route but it could be any CSX loco, perhaps the Sand Patch GP38-2 or the wonderful GP9RM from Oakland. The point is that the occasional chance of seeing a freight train at best under power or at worst static in a siding would add a lot of immersion to an otherwise purely passenger route.
Must admit I used to be high on authenticity but, given the access problems, I have adjusted my expectations.

 

I definitely agree with you i own this route and just an extra 20km of track I'm not paying full price it's a complete joke, not to mention because I'm on Xbox Series S I'm getting a reduced timetable because of performance issues. So definitely not paying full price