Tsw5

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Zac031, Mar 16, 2024.

  1. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    I tend to find the opposite. A majority of the opposition I see expressed to it is from people old enough to remember the latter end of the cold war, who tend to be opposed to nuclear power because most of their knowledge of it is from a time of a constant looming sense of threat, and when a lot of earlier, poorly maintained and less safe early technologies were starting to show their age. Most folks I meet who are younger than me seem to understand a fair bit more about how the nuclear power technologies today vastly differ from the Gen II ones of the 1960s, and are a lot more angry at the short sightedness of politicians who favour oil and coal over nuclear, exacerbating climate change, when they show up to protest about that.
     
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    You see, those were the great "advantages" in communist GDR: We had no problems whatsoever. The Great Brother in the East had it all under control. Chernobyl was just a foot note in the free communist press. Pffffff, no need to panic whatsoever. Go out and harvest, make love in a Trabbi ...
    Which brings me to THE (IMHO!) most downplayed problem this Earth is going to face: When I was born, Earth population was a number something around 3.5 Billion. Today we look at more than 8.0 Billion, growing. And all these people consume. And hell, how do they consume .................. and waste.

    Pipe, ducking an hiding ...
     
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  3. antwerpcentral

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    As this thread is already nuclear:

    Will TSW 5 drop old-gen on console? When I read about performance of new routes on PS4 I wonder why they even bother? Sounds like a sub par product on old gen.
     
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  4. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    I figure as long as it's still selling, and as long as it continues to be UE4, it'll continue to release on Gen8. I expect we will know that a fresh UE5 title is in development when we go a year without an annual update but still notice the lull in DLC releases from DTG.
     
  5. fpriotto520

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    I don't understand what people expect from UE5.
    It should also be considered that TSW has already taken features from UE5

    Maybe the pleasure of having to recompose the entire library from scratch?

    Is that what's exciting?

    Here is a link with a simulator built on UE5 basis.

    Is it worth it?


    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1925090/SubwaySim_Hamburg/
     
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  6. jack#9468

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    They expect it to improve the game somehow. Unless the tools are used right, it won't do that.
     
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  7. fpriotto520

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    Digital companies are made up of honest workers who must try to have a decent salary for their families at the end of the month.
    So the main goal is to try to sell a digital product on as many platforms as possible.
    Compromises are a vital necessity.
    And so it will always be.
     
  8. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    Merely that at some point, in the future, once average system specs are better capable of handling stuff built in it, aspects of the featureset where it comes to stuff like virtual geometry and the ease of setting up raytraced lighting systems will make for a much less demanding workflow that will make it more appealing to work with for DTG. My expectation on that front is "not until Gen10 console specs are announced to third party developers/devkits begin filtering out". What I expect is what we've seen, a generational leap in specific rendering technologies, while the games produced in it run comparatively worse on current gen console hardware than a very poorly optimised UE4 title and require upscaling from sub-720p internal resolutions to be able to hit modest FPS targets.
     
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  9. fpriotto520

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    One day there will also be UE 5.23-5.26, UE6 and so on, one day I will no longer be here because my time will have come, one day the climate will change. Where should such reasoning take us?
     
  10. Spikee1975

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    To make use of UE5, you need to build appropriate assets. TSW still doesn't look like a UE4 game, because basically apart from the locos, the modelling and texturing style hasn't really changed since Railworks. Some houses / assets in TS are of higher fidelity than TSW's. And as it's a train simulator, you cannot put as much detail in as for a limited size FPS map, which is what UE is made for.

    I'd rather they concentrate on bringing the core and functionality forwards. Gameplay is what matters more than graphics in the long run.

    A DLC based game where people build up collections needs core stability and reliability. Changing the game engine will have a very high risk of breaking old content, and we are all seeing how much even the smallest changes can affect the game, with ever new bugs surfacing after an update.
     
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  11. Princess Entrapta

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    It's no question it would be an entirely new game.
    Another reason we'd not expect to see something like that for a good while yet. Both the fact of the engine still working out the kinks, the current gen consoles (And a fairly sizeable number of PCs) being insufficient to handle it to anything remotely close to its potential, and the development time you'd be looking at for such a project even once there is the hardware to properly handle it (the horrendously poorly optimised physics of UE5 vs the PhysX of UE4 alone is a huge hurdle for getting a TSW sequel running well), I would not expect anything like that to even see an announcement of it being in development until TSW is celebrating its 10th anniversary. At which time TSW would be a couple of years older than Railworks was at the time TSW launched.
     
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  12. chieflongshin

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    This whole ue5 thing at the moment is a ridiculous concept. There's this view it's a shining beacon of problem resolution hope....


    Firstly nothing works
    Secondly you'd have to likely wait for all your dlc to port over (if ever).

    What will the forums be awash with then.....

    Another naff "enough is enough, why did they ruin the game when everything worked before. I'm firing tsw2 back up".....

    Everytime there's an issue someone chirps up here about tsw2, then secretly plays latest tsw4 dlc :D

    Ue5 is a placebo cure. Grass isnt always greener
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  13. twiggy#9635

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    Slightly off topic but if they was to move to UE5 it would have to be next gen only as that’s the engine which the Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater remake is in, it does look good but I don’t think it’s needed for TSW as imo the focus should be in making the trains look good, sound good and perform good (along with the Route looking realistic enough ofc)

    on that note for the love of god please no TSW5 I didn’t even want TSW4, the only reason I bought it was for JTs Blackpool route
     
  14. Princess Entrapta

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    I think it *could* be a cross-gen title if we're talking Gen10 consoles getting it in 2029, and the Series X and PS5 getting the 30fps 1080p version with reduced timetables.
     
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    I do understand why you fear it but I do feel like we've made plenty of technological advancements since then, and the risk of something like that happening now would be much slimmer with all the safety procedures implemented alone.

    Just wanted to throw my two cents in. :)
     
  16. Princess Entrapta

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    I don't think it's unreasonable to say that outdated reactor designs which we know have a plethora of safety flaws should be banned. Many world governments agree on that much, though some still use updated versions of those kinds of designs, with a bunch of modern revisions specifically to avert the likes of the incident seen there or at Fukushima. Some of the designs can even run on the spent fuel of the older reactors, making some of our existing nuclear waste reusable.
     
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    I'll prefer to wait until UE5 has some more bells and whistles.

    Like mentioned earler there wipl be a UE5.26 might as well jump a bunch instead of abit.

    Who knows maybe in a year or so they will get the transfer from UE4 to UE5 much easier to complete instead of starting from scratch.

    UE5 is still new no need to rush.
     
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  18. vuurkip#5765

    vuurkip#5765 Well-Known Member

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    I dont get why you dont just stick to TSC if you think its so much better. why waste your time on a forum of a game you dont even like that much
     
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  19. Spikee1975

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    Why judge and bother about others' preferences? Both are DTG games, and comparisons are unavoidable and fine. Anybody can waste their time here as long as they stick to the forum rules.
     
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    [Deleted; Breaks forum rules - DTGHarry]
     
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  21. Indege

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    Mate i posted that over a month ago.
     
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  22. vuurkip#5765

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    I know but you continue to be active in the TSW forum to this day so is it not a fair question to ask?
     
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    There is currently NO official information to say that TSW5 exists.
     
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    So just because I don't like the way a game that I have paid for is going I shouldn't play it?
     
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  25. SierraOscar95

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    I mean it is a fair point, if you don't like it at all why would you torture yourself and continue to play it, only to purposely come away with a negative experience?

    You have the right to complain, but there is a line in the sand where if you are not liking it but continue playing it, it seems a bit backwards?

    Anyway, on the topic of TSW5 or UE5... TSW5 I haven't heard and whispers of its existence just yet. I wouldn't want to make the leap into UE5, when we'd have to remaster every route to adapt to it. I'd much prefer to get the most out of UE4, which, itself hasn't been used to the fullest extent. Its still a very capable engine...
     
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  26. vuurkip#5765

    vuurkip#5765 Well-Known Member

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    You seem to like TSC more fundementally so why waste your time with a game and its forum you dont even seem to like
     
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