Why Cant Dovetail Listen To @thetrainspotterfromtauranga On Youtube

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  1. ravingshapes

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    I can't stand him his rants are some of the most cringe things I've seen on YouTube
     
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  3. ravingshapes

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    oof
    how cringe are the rants?
     
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    Incredibly......Just listen to the way he tries to pronounce Glasgow
     
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    Was this thread really necessary. The issue I have is that he says it is constructive feedback. However, it's not constructive at all when you are literally yelling into the mic, throwing expletives and all sorts of insults towards staff members. That makes him sound very childish and unprofessional. In real life, yelling and insulting at people will get you nowhere good. There is a difference between constructive criticism and being angry/upset for the sake of being upset. Constructive criticism can be done without acting on feelings. There's a difference between giving suggestions (making an area less bare for example) and saying "Dtg are lazy and pathetic for not including 1000 blades of grass."

    Another issue I have with tauranga is that some of his suggestions are a bit too unrealistic sometimes. Like a route should contain multiple branchlines, a million types of different rolling stock including all the ones that would be ai if it runs on an adjacent line and should also be drivable, it should be a very long route, etc. But somehow his own route suggestions don't have to fit that criteria. It is just unrealistic for dtg and 3rd parties to do everything given time and budget constraints. They can't work on a single piece of dlc forever.
     
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    He doesn't insult DTG staff members so I don't know why you said that. I find his reviews better than most ambassadors who just seem to say good things even if there are issues just to keep getting free dlc's. He has made positive reviews as well. The tone may at times be harsh but not really unfair especially given the prices that DTG charge for these DLC's

    I don't really see the point of this thread as a whole to be honest. People constantly offer feedback to products so telling DTG to listen to just one person doesn't make any sense. It's best they listen to all feedback and not just from one individual
     
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  7. rennekton#1349

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    Still doesn't mean tauranga can just call dtg lazy and pathetic whenever he wants or throw expletives or yell into the mic. There is a difference between just being unhappy and angry vs constructive criticism. That comes off as very childish.

    Look at schauzapowahz as an example who provides a balanced review with constructive criticism, making him much more pleasant and professional to watch. He points out both the good and the bad and the smallest of details, but at least he's not doing any of the things tauranga does.

    Anger will not do you any good other than raise your blood pressure and burn you out. You can still criticize, but it has to be done a certain way
     
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    You said that he attacked DTG staff members which is false. There is a difference between criticizing DTG the company and criticizing individuals. The tone at times may be harsh, but honestly, I don't have an issue with the reviews as a whole. No point in getting offended about what some random guy on the internet says about a company.

    Also, he does recommend routes as well and does say good things about routes as well so if you just think that all the videos are just negative, then that isn't true. If all the videos were negative, then I wouldn't watch them. Seems you just have an issue with how it is presented or you just don't even watch them because he does point out the good and bad. I still don't agree with the OP of this thread though
     
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    Yes I've watched all his review videos so I know what he talks about. He can still be more constructive about it instead of letting his feelings dictate what he says. In real life, there is a certain way you have to speak for you to get your point across. Anyways I've not got more to say. Like I said, there are reviewers out there who can explain both the good and bad in a much better way.

    Tauranga has improved his videos over the years. However, he still has a video every once in a while where he will let his anger speak for him which isn't pleasant to hear and just becomes a laughing stock. It doesn't take that much effort to say the same exact things in a constructive way
     
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    As long as the point is made, I don't see the issue still. Perhaps it's just how I view things in the world when it comes to video games. At least it is honest.
     
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    His rants and raves all sound a bit fake, just being controversial for the sake of it most of the time, comes across as being a bit of a whinger, if he took a more relaxed and calm view then it would come across as less irritating.
     
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    What is the purpose of this?
     
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    Tin foil hat on here, but it makes me think said YouTube shouty Muppet possibly started a new profile, and now is trying to get people to hopefully sway DTG into doing what he says he wants in his videos.........



    This is totally my own opinion of what is possibly happening, and is in no way claiming to be actually correct.
     
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    He doesn't even use the forums
     
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    I suspect DTG are highly unlikely to want to engage directly with said individual (or anyone posting random reviews, good or bad) on various social media platforms. And I think they know quite nicely from these forums what people generally like and don’t like about the game. Full credit to Matt too, who has been jumping in on quite a few threads recently and trying to conduct a balanced and reasoned discussion of the issues under consideration.
     
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    Ahh the angry attention-seeking antipodean. In answer to the OP's question/statement I suspect it's because they have brains and prefer to keep their hearing intact.
     
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    As someone who does not have a clue who that person and YouTube channel is, I couldn't care less what someone is argueing about the game who isn't even confident enough to create an account here in the forums and puts all his critics and suggestions where it belongs to, so that either A. He really can achieve something with his critic or B. could be told that his demands and wishes probably are unlikely to be done by DTG and surrealistic.

    Also directing to ravingshapes . You could have provided much better information about the things the person in question said and suggested, and not leave it up to others to do your work.

    "Why Can't Dovetail Listen to X on Youtube"

    providing "v" as the description is not very helpful, neither for his nor your own demands.
     
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    They dont even listen to their community why would they listen to some random youtuber who apparently doesnt have a particularly desirable style
     
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    I should make my own review channel so people dont have to watch that guy anymore for non ambassador reviews lol
     
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    Having watched a few of his videos, he does make the odd good point but most of them just seem to be rants with unrealistic demands
     
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    He is without doubt thee absolute WORST tsw content creator out there, I wouldn’t recommend him to anyone.
     
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  22. DTG Matt

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    Personally I don't watch much YouTube content for TSW these days, it's either filled with nothing but praise (which is wonderful, but sometimes unrealistic and unhelpful in making improvements) or uncontrolled unrealistic ranting that bears no relation to reality. This is also why I disconnected from the TSC discord, it was damaging my mental health trying to pay attention to the stuff being said there.

    I read the forums mostly, this lot are fairly balanced, and I also read one of the more active TSW facebook groups which is also generally quite well balanced. There are also many many people who DM me on facebook, discord and forums and I speak to those also as long as they remain polite and courteous, even if they are really disappointed about something - I want to hear it, but I don't need abuse in my life thanks.

    In any case, I don't listen to one individual's views or give them any more weight than any other individuals views - and honestly, I haven't listened to any of this persons work but it sounds like something i'd definitely get no value out of and have no plans to do start.

    Matt.
     
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