Hello everyone, since i am really excited about the br 218 coming in the next 3 months or less, i want to write some of my thoughts to this loco. I haven't found an exact discussion thread on this topic so thats why i write this here. First of all i think the loco will be a 10/10 because its developed by TSG and they never disappoint. Following the last Roadmap Article the 218 will have scenarios and services for HBL and services for Maintalbahn. Im really happy about that because Hamburg Lübeck is my favourite route. I would really wish for HBL to get TOD 4 with this loco but this is something for the suggestion category. As shown it will have n wagen with a special cab. Now im asking myself if the br 218 will be compatible with the dosto cab because they do drive with this cab in real live. The problem is i dont know if the dosto cab they use for the 218 irl is also modified for diesels. Another thing is the (i only now the german term) "Bahnräumer" is clearly visible at the images at the roadmap. I know the 218 use this in real live for snow or other things laying on the track but there are also versions that dont use these. Very likely im wrong about this but can this thing be removed by hand on the br 218? If yes i hope the br 218 for TSW will also feature this. I hope for some news on this loco in the next week but i think it will be on the next roadmap. Anyway it will be a day 1 buy or maybe preorder for me. So what do you think and hope for the br 218?
I hope that Hamburg-Lübeck will get TOD4 as well for the 218. Would be great! My biggest wish for the loco itself is that they get the sound right. If so, it will be amazing.
Would be super, yes, but I don't think they would do it. Personally something I would like to see is not only a TOD4 enhancement just like DRA with TSW4 got, as rather a route extension to Hamburg-Lübeck just like LIRR. But yes, this is even more unlikely. It would be very cool if it could also haul some Dostos. And it would make sense since the BR 218 do so there in real life. I don't think you one could remove the cowcatcher ("Kuhfänger" also in german). But I have nothing against it. One thing I wish for is that the BR 218 could be delivered in several liveries so that it could be used in more german routes like Linke Rheinstrecke and Niddertalbahn. crimson red beige-blue beige-red
WRT Dostos: diesels require a completely different control set from electrics, and none of the Dosto cab cars in the game have a diesel desk. TSG are building a new variant of the Karlsruher Steuerwagen to work with the Silberlinge. Naturally the 218 can haul Dostos (and freight), but not in push-pull
so irl dostos can't be pushed by 218 bc it requires a different diesel desk wich none dostos has it? or this just applies to tsw?
What about using the BR 218 only for pulling the Dostos available in game, without offering Dosto cab car push services?
That is not true. Different desks are only a thing with KWS, the old analogue system for cab car control. ZWS, which the Dostos have, works with any loco (as long as the loco has ZWS, but some 218s do). Of course the TSW Dosto cab car long predates the 218, so who knows if it'll work in the game; but in real life it does.
so why they are making a n-wagen with a different cab control car desk? (as seen in attached picture) wouldn't it be easier to just reuse the old n-wagen and switch from kws to zws on the 218 dashboard to use it with dostos? I ask because this is what I do to use the old n-wagen with the BR 111 (in case of old n-wagen I switch from zws to kws on the 111 dashboard)
Because the Karlsruhe cab car uses KWS only. It's just a tractive force lever and air brake controls on the Dosto cab car. I don't see a reason why that can't work with pretty much any loco.
why is it that when you want to save weight, you disconnect the back locomotive, the train refuse you move
Possible usages: 218 + any wagons 218 + Dostos + 218 = ZWS 218 + Dostos + Dosto cab car = ZWS 218 + nWagens + 218 = KWS 218 + nWagens + nWagens cab car with diesel desk = KWS 218 + 218 = KWS It's all working in TSW too. Same as with the 111 (that i made) who has 3 MU systems working (KWS, ZWS, ZDS).
Cool to know that this will work for Free Roam/Scenerio Planner/Formation Designer whatnot. But the services will only be with the n-Wagen as we saw in the WIP screenshot? Or will there be services with Dosto formations as well?
Looking forward to this DLC! And to have a second livery which of course should be Orient Red to match the one of BR 110 in NID; which is the route where I would love to see the loco. To take over from the BR 628 the rush hour services, exactly as it was in real life.
Hmm- a strange case. Apparently DB was experimenting with paint colors, the new fleetwide livery that would take effect in 1974.. 218 218 was the test vehicle for ocean blue/ivory; her twin 217 got crimson/ivory reminiscent of the TEE. They chose the blue, but never bothered repainting 217 for almost 30 years.
Just hope the sound is good. Didn’t the 218’s get additional silencing at some point? I know the one in TSC that came with the Kiel route was on the quiet side. Hopefully not the case here. And at some point we definitely need a pure diesel route on which to operate these. Something like Kempten to Ulm or the line from Koln down through Gerolstein (very scenic).
Yeah, so basically 218s were built with 3 different types of engines. The low 218 were built with tb10s which sounded good but did not scream as much as a tb11 then quite a lot of 218s were buit with pielstick engines in them now I could not stand these but some british cranks did like them. And then all of the spares had tb11s now these were my favourites because they had the growl of a tb10 but also they had the hellfire scream. About twenty or twenty five years ago DB introduced the caterpilar engines to 218 and these are about as silenced as it is possible to get they manage to be louder idling than under power and it was about this time that the pielsticks were converted to tb11s and caterpilars and tb10s were fased out about 10 to 15 years ago so now of the about 60 218s DB have not including 218 8s I would say about 35 are tb11 and 25 are caterpilar. But now in Germany it has got to the point now that on the Regensburg - Hof line some 218s are abselute horses but some lose time. But there is a basic history on 218 engines.
According to German Wikipedia, there were only three engined with Cats: almost all non-tb11s in the fleet have MTU 4000s.
I must admit in the many years I have been bashing out there I just knew them as caterpillar engines not that I cared given I just saw those and pielsticks as rancid terrible rubbish engines
I really hope that the BR 218 will be delivered with the TB11-Engine and it‘s characteristic Turbo-Sound. As the BR 218 is my favorite Loco of my childhood ( was my first Loco I received as a christmas present in 1985 for use on my fathers H0 model railway ) I really do hope that the 218 will be furthermore delivered in blue/beige and also in TEE-colours like the BR 218-217/-105.
Old signalling, single track, the causeway. Shunts at Niebűll, shunts at Westerland. It may not be the most scenic in the world but from an operational point of view it's got quite a lot going on.
True but it is flat there is no tree in sight the only reason I ever go up there is for 218s overwise I would go nowhere near it
Oddly you need 218s with Laaers attached to them or 628 with Laaers since there's a lorry loading terminal on the Marschbahn. There's two Mainland Niebüll and Westerland Sylt Island. Main site is in the German language
If the 218 were perhaps also made usable on the Niddertalbahn and Left Rhine route, it would be good to deliver it in two liveries, one DB traffic red and, for the older routes, Orient red with bib. The N-cars will probably have the same external design as those on the Left Rhine route, so the mint green paintwork of the local transport cars could then be reused. You could also release a skin pack for the 218 which would include all the famous paint finishes.
I still have to add something. There will definitely be people who will bring beautiful paintwork to the Creators Club. The only thing that bothers me a little is that when you download paintwork from the Creators Club, they are always a bit blurry, especially when you get very close to the vehicles. The original DTG paintwork is always nice and razor sharp, so I always prefer paying DLCs for paintwork because the quality there is always very clean.
The Br218 will probably also get layered on this route, because between 2000 and 2010 the 218 still did services on the Eifelstrecke: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/dieselnetz-euskirchen-2020.81065/page-2#post-837820
