PlayStation When Is Tsw Making A Nyc Transit System Game Route Add-on??

TSW LIRR fans,... I'm sure you all from NYC and those who've experienced NYC mass transit authorities. Have been wondering ...

? If Dovetail can create the LIRR routes and all the realism of is licensed map and routes. Also, to mention the similar trains of NY's train lines (M3, M7 & new M9) of Long Island, NY. Them, isn't it TIME for Dovetail to announce the coming or future project working of the mass transit of the "NYC Transit Authoritiy System" gameplay add on, in the near future?

The A train & 7 train connects within the LIRR's route in already 2 stations ( Woodside & Far Rockaway). And they've mastered the sound, signal lights and the whole tunnel system already in Atlantic and Grand Central Terminals already. So, one would assume, is a matter of many copying and pasting the similar codes from the LIRR underground coding/gameplay. Is mainly all underground routes, so theirs little or so outside layouts.

Ofcourse, we have to assume them getting the licensing, from NYC Transit Authorities first. Then, mapping out the many trains routes. I can only imagine ... that it would be ... "One he'll of a project to construct". But, now that TSW LIRR Comuntter version 2.0 is out. Maybe that team would consider that project, since is similar and wouldn't have to start from scratch. Especially, since they got us for the full price of the game's new addon, on the new LIRR Comuntter version 2.0 map. Which many TSW LIRR gamers didn't like or wondered WHY so much on the price for an DLC add-on, Right (??)
!! But, that would be a gameplay experience, I wouldn't mind paying full price for. Even if that just started with the connector trains in NY's Grand Central Terminal, already there (which is 42nd ST station).

I'm born and raised from Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx and Manhattan. 30+ years of my life. So I know others from NYC can relate here too.

Please, share all your thoughts and comments about this posting in here.

Thanks Dovetail Community & TSW fans!!

Nelson B.

 

Short answer, they are not.

Matt has commented previously that MTA point blank refuse access to the trains or lines for any form of research, regardless of any licences being in place.

 

Ahh,.. understood. Thanks.

... Wow, I wonder why the MTA is so anal about releasing their access rights to their trains and lines routes. It's so weird that they're addimit about it. oh well.

** You know,.. A few improvements I just realized, that could be added in the new LIRR Comuntter 2.0 map. Is a policeman (or 2) at each of the main Terminals (Atlantic, GCT & Jamaica). 2 track men workers, with their yellow safety vents on. And a panhandle (or 2). Since major city Terminals have them. And finally ... a announcement loud speaker, from a information both location.. -- "Train # (such & such), now leaving on track (such and such)". THAT would be sound and be awesome and more realistic, Right fans.

 

Security and concerns primarily, I believe. We have already seen that with LIRR with the insistence that safety systems are on and removal of certain functions that could train ill favoured individuals to actually take over and drive a train for real. Presumably even more of an issue where the subway system is concerned.

 

I can understand the motives of the license owner and I can understand DTG not wanting to hurt relationships in any kind and keep a good and trustful connection to them.

However, it's bad that operators decisions do have so much impact on the game Train Sim World, and in the end give us players more and more restrictions who are the ones paying for the game with our good money.

I don't even know if MTA gets a share/comission of any sale. But if they do, they also should provide some things for the money and not only take, take, take.

And there is another problem with it. Now it's very likely that operators DTG is going to cooperate with in the future will do some research about the game and will find out how other operators like MTA restricted their licenses and permissions to the best well-being of their company, and maybe will raise similar, equal or even worse demands to DTG.

I think it's okay if an operator says "We want to have this" or "We don't want to have this", but if it goes as far as to forbid entire routes without any exceptions, the discussion becomes problematic. The amount of restiction to logical context is still important.

Does it really make sense that someone is using Train Sim World as a training tool to invade and hack the system, in a way that we even can't have a route with safety systems always enabled just like in LIRR 2.0?
Is the depiction of safety systems and other loco-related mechanism so well replicated that it could be used for that?

Is it really logically that a real life brand is hurt when some players cause crashes in a video game?

I know that we already discussed these concerns in other threads and some of these questions I got answered already, but just stating it here again because I think some operators do exaggerate a bit or lose the context that this all is just about a video game, which because of certain well known bugs and issues in the community, will never be a 100% life like simulator.

So why do operator then classify it as a 1 to 1 real world replication?

 

Hey OldVern, .. I just happened to had a separate question or concern.

If I Dom play my TSW2020 nor the TSW2 anymore. Because, I have and play more frequently my TSW4 premium.

Could I technically delete them. Or should I still keep them. Eventho is taking up space on my SSD hard drive. Also, I believe ... since I have them as my purchase history games. If in the future, I wanted to play them. I could re-download them, right??

 

Well put RS,... I think the M in MTA stands for Mass. And being that is NYC (a very mass population area) ... the security concerns WOULD be a high level in general. Maybe not to the locals. But, sick international hackers or terrorist. (Just saying).

Point taken tho Thanks for sharing in detail.

 

If you’ve transferred all your DLC over the 4 then you can get rid of the other TSWs. Not sure how it’s works on Pc but on console once you payed for and downloaded something you’re free to re-download it from your library any time.

 

for steam yeah. if you transfered everything to the new TSW and logged in you can just uninstall the previous TSW. if you have too much money that will look like this then. (TSC installed on desktop so grayed out now as steam link doesn't work on devices that are off)

 

Where did Matt say MTA refuses access for research? Was it in the preview stream?

 

( My emphasis)

 

See answer above.

 

One of the reasons

 

Which answer?

 

The one above my post referencing the reply from Matt, outlining the situation.

 

There is "Tracks of NYC Subway" book that's updated every year. I used it to create my NYCTA subway system in Trainz. I'm not sure about creating my NYCTA subway system in TSW4.

 

i would 100% go for Line 7 for TSW5 Launch as one of the 3 routes NY Subway has been called for for a long time but because of train surfers it screw it up for the true railfans out there like myself

 

Wow, not sure how I missed that… thanks for the clarification.

 

... Re line: (LIRR and MetroNorth lines are predominantly overground so you can get a lot of it from easier photography and google maps etc - underground stuff is another challenge entirely and not one person on the team feels confident at delivering it to the standard people expect.) ---

Well, Just my FYI to Matt from DTG. NYC MTA trains are similar to the M7 & new M9 LIRR trains. So they have a window glass door to view the front pararamic view of the whole tunnel and outside. So if someone did a low resolution video clip of the whole route. They would have an 80% aspect of what each of the 2 trains has as a visually incoming footage to create. Primarily starting with the 7 & A trains routes, since those are the two trains that already connects with the LIRR MTA stations/lines (Woodside& Far Rockaway stations). So IF ... and BIG IF HERE ... DTG was to .. or was to in the future to find somehow got someone within the team, to partake in that challenge, of where to start as a visual aspect of the 2 connecting lines within the existing LIRR lines . It would be those 2 trains.

The 7 train I remembered goes to Grand Central Terminal. And from Shea Stadium (Where the Mets play) and the train yard is Flushing, NY. But, I can't remember if the A train to Far Rockaway does or not stop at GCT. But, that's basically my 2 cents for now. Thanks

 

I would think the DTG MTA connection map, would need ALL our inputs. Lol