Enough Is Enough!!! The Ongoing Saga!!! It's Almost The 3 Year Anniversary

I have a genuine hatred at modern emus but old emus like dinosaurs or old southern stuff are beasts

 

This. Also the problem with the modern one handle EMU’s is they tend to be so powerful even significant gradients present no problem. Running the 4EPB on South London Network in TSC, there’s a few locations where it struggles a bit and acceleration is somewhat more ponderous than Electrostars et al.

 

We are in the age where challenges are surviving with only 50% phone battery or pondering who to subscribe to for energy drink advice.

 

Yes, there's nothing wrong with electric traction per se. It's these colorful, silent- running toy-like emus with their prison cell style windshields that are so tedious. The old slam door trains were at least
noisier and a little more challenging to drive. The Woodhead electrics too were vastly more interesting than those on recent routes.
But I seriously doubt that any of those will ever be seen in TSW.

 

Stop crying mate. Unfortunately for yous the modern stuff sells better as its what we see now so we basically get to relive our life in a game.

 

Hmm. Your life maybe.

 

I think a well-simulated train is what sells, whether it's ancient or modern

 

This is the reason why casual players are now crying in their reviews of LIRR. Beeping is annoying for some people. Realism and simulation? Nah...

 

Yeah because I live in 2024 not 1924

 

If and I mean if ... just trains sold their own train simulator, focusing on uk FOR PC AND CONSOLES. Tsw franchise will be GONE!

 

These things are never a good idea. Once again, let me explain:

• Only in the past three or so years has Just Trains become a good developer of routes. Most of their older content for TS, both routes and trains, are unbearable awful and/or broken to this day.
• Their rolling stock in TS still is not that good. The Voyager is from the Rail Simulator days and looks it, the Meridian is still broken, and the Class 60 is horribly dated. They have not released a single train that is anywhere near as good as AP despite being in the business for the same amount of time and pricing them very closely to AP products in some cases.
• The Metropolitan Line comes with no functional stock, requiring a further expensive purchase to get just one variant of the S stock. To get the full package, with both trains and the announcement system, you must pay £87, which is totally unacceptable.

Please do not believe that Just Trains would make a better train simulator. I think a lot of TSW have seen one very good route of theirs in TSW and automatically assumed that they are the greatest developer in train simulator history who can do no wrong, but believe me they are not.

 

Simrail had potential but it seems already locked down as there’s no word of the announced editor and they seem more focused on a move to console (sound familiar?). Any future addons look like “partnership” DLC, and as I’ve previously stated, only Microsoft could transform the market by bringing back to life MSTS, but that is just wishful thinking!

 

Indeed. They aced with BPO because the route and train building team was strong, though I still don't think the Pacer sounds quite like a TL11 version. The fact it encompassed the best of BR Classic also endeared it to many of us more readily than if they'd gone for a modern route with one handled EMU.

However they gave us some very dubious stuff for TSC particularly in the early days - Edinburgh to Dundee relying heavily on default Kuju assets and using the Thames Trains liveried Class 166 to run many of the services.

The TSC Met Line is nicely made but as stated without a sale or bundle it is a huge sum of money to get the full package. The route can be temperamental when it comes to saving and resuming and is plagued by what appears to be excessive enforcement of LUL approach release speed signalling making it easy to SPAD or requiring you to crawl at 5 MPH for a considerable distance.

They also seem to have thoroughly turned their backs on any pretence at improving the SP game and any form of save or checkpoint system. I refunded the ET22 pack and uninstalled the main game in disgust. Waste of HD space, IMHO.

 

Glad to see my thread is still doing well 97 pages later , also glad to see all the bickering and childish behaviour has calmed down. To everyone keeping this thread alive I made this thread for you and anyone else that felt the same as I did. I still haven't brought TSW4 have had a look at my friends though who have brought it. And I still see no difference between this one and the 3rd one so my point still stands this was just a cash grab, they could of easily added any of the new routes TSW4 has received to 3 with no issues they just ticked a box on UE4 and added fog it was nothing game changing. But anyway thankyou all for keeping this post going I may not be playing TSW4 but I always drop into the thread every now and again to see how it's doing

 

Since the days of Weird heavy metal chat full of heroes and adventures (or sth like that) on Metal Forever forum I have missed such a good joke thread as this, this one even has its fledgling spawns, almost like Cthulhu *starts babbling in Elder tongues mauahahahahahah*

cheers and a bucket of imaginary popcorn for everyone

 

Just saw this over at the Catan forums... shame.

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/online-random-board-generator.79037/

 

Which of these is more visually appealing to you;

This


or this?

 

That's a longstanding bug with the F7 (Clinchfield as well as Santa Fe). It's recoverable- go to the rear engine, kill the bell, make sure the setup is correct. Probably release brakes.

 

I've said it before, it's a DTG issue, rather than a certain game issue, there are fundamental management problems, I bet things behind the scenes are a nightmare.

 

That's why it's important to keep the boiler at pressure, know what I'm saying...

 

For page 98 here one italian regional train that entered in service at 98 and still run today: the TAF (treno alta frequentazione) and yes, is old as me

 

Enough is never enough, aim for the stars. If you fail then at least you tried. Which is more than DTG does.

 

Funny lookin’ thing…

 

The Washington Metro has 98 stations!

 

Ah that reminds me of Fallout 3. Good times, good times

 

It’s unique architecture for a metro isn’t it?

 

Well it's certainly quite recognizable Especially the first picture.

Talk about another game with a plethora of bugs, by the way :')

 

Noo, I took the TSR just yesterday, i.e. its Trenord version .
It's one of the strangest EMUs you can see around... Maybe only Japanese can create something more "unique"!

 

Stockholm has 100, so ours is a little bit better
Here's one of them, Rinkeby, opened 1975.

 

You came too early. We're on page 98.

 

I'm guessing DTG's one programmer on staff was probably busy fixing bugs on either Bass Master, TSC 2024 or TSW4 and couldn't find time to fix the random number generator.

 

Oh no, I blame it on the fact that we swedes are soo far ahead that we already are on page 100

 

It’s a matter of quality, not quantity.

We have Wheaton Station, a red line station opened in 1990, that has 230ft (70m) escalators which are the longest escalators in the western hemisphere!

 

Very true, I'm sure yours have better frequency as well
Our longest are 66 meters, also from 1975, soon we will have 80 meters long escalators

 

Sometimes but not always! As for the escalators, they’re pretty reliable. A huge project is currently underway to replace 130 escalators across 32 stations by 2028!

 

We're just about done replacing the oldest, some of them dating back to the late 60s when the stations originally opened, so I've heard anyway. Seems like we have a lot in common

 

I am the Memelord von Memefief, in a parallel dimension to the Kingdom of Fife and Sixth

 

To be accurate, the game should deduct points for being on time, and add bonuses for lateness

 

An interesting observation. When I worked for the railway I remember hearing a tale about a Controller on another region who got into trouble for allowing a freight to run very early. It was something we quite often agreed to but in this case it backfired as it arrived on the main line outside the destination with no ground staff there to let it in and nowhere else to run to. If memory serves me correctly might have been a hauled ECS ex Works move of LUL tube stock to West Ruislip. Unfortunately said train then blocking the Up Main caused havoc with the morning peak start up. IIRC the customer also complained about the train running early… it’s due at xxyy and we expect it at xxyy,

Moral of the story, if we got a request from signallers or even the driver for an early run - make a few phone calls first! Thus avoiding tea and biscuits or even worse a nice week off with no pay.

 

I get a lot of points deducted cos of being too early... #livingontheedge

 

OMG !
We're on page 98

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_98

 

blowing off some... steam?

 

Must keep this discussion on the rails.

 

The story begins with the narrator calling "Halloa! Below there!" into a railway cutting. The signalman standing on the railway below does not look up, as the narrator expects, but rather turns about and stares into the railway tunnel that is his responsibility to monitor. The narrator calls down again and asks permission to descend. The signalman seems reluctant.

The railway hole is a cold, gloomy, and lonely place. The signalman still seems to be in fear of the narrator, who tries to put him at ease. The signalman feels that he had seen the narrator before, but the narrator assures him that this is impossible. Reassured, the signalman welcomes the newcomer into his little cabin, and the two men speak of the signalman's work. His labour consists of a dull monotonous routine, but the signalman feels he deserves nothing better, as he wasted his academic opportunities when he was young, although he has been spending his time during his shifts teaching himself mathematics and learning a foreign language (albeit with questionable pronunciation). The narrator describes that the signalman seems like a dutiful employee at all times, except when he twice looks at his signal bell when it is not ringing. There seems to be something troubling the signalman, but he will not speak of it. Before the narrator leaves, the signalman asks of him not to call for him when he's back on the top of the hill or when he sees him the following day.

The next day, as directed by the signalman, the narrator returns and does not call. The signalman tells the narrator that he will reveal his troubles. He is haunted by a recurring spirit which he has seen at the entrance to the tunnel on separate occasions, and, with each appearance, there has followed a tragedy. In the first instance, the signalman heard the same words which the narrator said and saw a figure with its left arm across its face, while waving the other in desperate warning; he questioned it, but it vanished. He then ran into the tunnel, but found no-one; a few hours later, there was a terrible train crash with many casualties. During its second appearance, the figure was silent, with both hands before the face in an attitude of mourning; then, a beautiful young woman died in a train passing through. Finally, the signalman admits that he has seen the spectre several times during the past week.

The narrator is sceptical about the supernatural, and suggests that the signalman is suffering from hallucinations. During their conversation, the signalman witnesses a ghost and hears his bell ring eerily, but the narrator sees and hears nothing. The signalman is sure that these supernatural incidents are presaging a third tragic event waiting to happen, and is sick with fear and frustration: he does not understand why he should be burdened with knowledge of an incipient tragedy when he, a minor railway functionary, has neither the authority nor the ability to prevent it. The narrator believes that his new friend's imagination has been overtaxed and suggests taking him to see a doctor.

The next day, the narrator visits the railway cutting again and sees a mysterious figure at the mouth of the tunnel. This figure is not a ghost, however; it is a man, one of a group of officials investigating an incident on the line. The narrator discovers that the signalman is dead, having been struck by an oncoming train. He had been standing on the line, looking intently at something, and failed to get out of the way. The driver of the train explains that he attempted to warn the signalman of his danger: as the train bore down on the signalman the driver called out to him, "Below there! Look out! For God’s sake, clear the way!" Moreover, the driver waved his arm in warning even as he covered his face to avoid seeing the train strike the hapless signalman. The narrator notes the significance of the similarity between the driver's words and actions and those of the spectre as the signalman had earlier described them, but leaves the nature of that significance to the reader.

 

Page 99 will be a competition. Which will come first... GBRF's brand new electric locomotives that are set to begin grinding away at the Class 66's dominance on UK freight trains, or the MS Nord-Pas-de-Calais which helped to deliver the Class 373s?

To keep the thread on topic however, I'd like to say that Skyhook's work to turn the Midland Main Line around is impressive and admirable. I am glad that for the first time they really took the criticism to heart and actually made something out of what they had, turning one of the worst routes in TSW into one of the best... Probably. I don't own it, so I'm just going on what people have been saying about it online. Now, if only they could do that with the BR187, Cane Creek and to a lesser extent the Horseshoe Curve.

 

Very close to page 100 let's keep pushing

 

Seriously though, wasn't Nahverkehr Dresden supposed to get the Scenario Planner 2.0 upgrade? I remember DTG said they would add it after release... but now I cannot find anything related to it anymore... and even if I do not remember correctly - why does it not have the feature that it uses as a selling point for TSW 4? I am one of the few people that use (and I even primarily use it) the Scenario Planner - it was the main reason I bought TSW 4 in the first place - Free Roam aside. I was already extremely disappointed that the main feature of Scenario Planner 2.0 wasn't properly working at launch for months. Really seems like the only purpose of the Scenario Planner "2.0" is to be a selling point, but not an actual feature that adds something to the game.

And that's also besides the other ever existing problems that the Scenario Planner 1.0 had and still has.

I sorta manage to circumvent through some barriers and bugs by ending a route in an area containing a branch or hub, which then allows me to possibly choose a different path.

 

And let's not forget it was supposed to be a Winter update for TSW2