Route Midland Main Line - Feedback Thread

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  1. 14trainfan2029

    14trainfan2029 Well-Known Member

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    I do wish they fix the DB and old EWS 66 as they aren't the best, especially performancewise as well as the screens in the cab
     
  2. 14trainfan2029

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    There's one issue with this route, especially with the 158 and that is there isn't a guard character actually closing the doors. I think this is a big issue because it feels like a ghost is doing it. So this is one thing that I want to see implemented as it brings a realistic aspect to the 158.
     
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  3. ksb#3865

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    Ps5 just played 2 timetable services with HST both both times the game crashed. Seems like we have gone backwards with last update
     
  4. iriv#7314

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    Something weird is going on with the white flowers in the grass..
    When you approach them, they pop up from the grass, and they seem to grow and grow until you passed them.
    you can see this in this video: at 5:31

    for the rest: brilliant dlc, with 2 briliant cargo lines :)
    platform:epic
     
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  5. disco#7930

    disco#7930 Well-Known Member

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    Most routes have this with grass and other flowers, I take it, it's to do with RAM.
    I'm X Box Series S for reference.
     
  6. stupot#4389

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    Can I buy both cargo packs for Mml on tsw3 or do I have to get tsw4!? If 4 then, I will wait for 5.
     
  7. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    TSW4.

    Any new DLC is TSW4 onwards only.
     
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  8. DJsnapattack

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    If you play on PC you can add lines to the .ini file to increase the foliage draw distance.
     
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  9. stupot#4389

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    Sod that lol.... will wait for 5 and carry on with robocop for the time being.
     
  10. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    There isn't even any confirmation or hint of a TSW5.
     
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  11. stupot#4389

    stupot#4389 Member

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    Yet....
     
  12. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    If there ever will be.

    No one knows, apart from DTG. We can speculate and guess it's most likely, but as of now, TSW5 isn't a thing.
     
  13. stupot#4389

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    Not gonna get in a debate... but this time last year was EXACTLY the same. But rather spend money on a stupid intro rather fix things hmmmm. Tsw4 and who brought it got mugged off. Facts lad
     
  14. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't get mugged off buying TSW4.

    I made the conscious decision to purchase it, and am happy with what I got.
     
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  15. DJsnapattack

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    LucaZone Adam. For PC players can we have the steam over the cooling towers back please.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. jaypebble#6154

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    Hi everyone,
    Redoing all the collectables after losing everything on PS4.
    Using the guides but the route map at East Midlands Parkway platform 4 is missing. Anyone else having this problem?
    Thanks
     
  17. devsecops#8603

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    6E22 Mountsorel Railhead Scenario cannot be started, as you cannot seem to get out of the cabin at the start due to an invisible barrier at the door, this is on the PC.
     
  18. Tigert1966

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    That happens if you’ve got mods installed. Works fine on an unmodded version (PC Steam). Not sure which mod it is, but have seen this reported before and that was the reason.
     
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    At Beeston, to the NE you can go up the stairs to the sidewalk next to the road, to get to the other side of the track.

    I can go up the stairs from both platforms, but once up there, I can only go down one set of stairs, it won't let me walk down the other.
     
  20. 14trainfan2029

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    On the route, I have noticed that the cars are driving on the wrong side of the road. Skyhook, could you fix this inaccuracy because it makes the route seem like its in the US. I have taken screenshots, haven't posted it yet but everywhere where there is a road, all the cars seem to drive on the right side of the road instead of the left.
     
  21. MJCKP

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    One bug I found - the vigilance alarm on the 158 stays at the same volume even if you move away from the train
     
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    I'm hoping in the future we'll see some iconic buildings added, such as the Blue tower and Leicester Mercury building at Leicester, Nottingham Castle as well
     
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  23. 14trainfan2029

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    When I played midland mainline today, I spawned the 166 in order to practice connecting it to a 158. The 158 does have same coupler as the 166. Here on this picture you can see the 166 repelling to the 158. I hope this gets sorted d28be8f1-5c56-44d9-ad01-26351742649e.png
     
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  24. 14trainfan2029

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    Another issue I had today was when I went into the secondmans seat in the hst, the ai figure disappeared for some reason, it shouldn't do that even if I was in the secondmans seat e5fabda5-b849-4862-b5fc-8770f6eead71.png
     
  25. marcsharp2

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    As far as I'm aware they don't couple in real life.
     
  26. MJCKP

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    I think the class 158 is set up correctly since it can couple to the 142 and 170, it is the coupler on the class 166 (not make by Skyhook) that is set up wrong. Although in real life they can't work in multiple, they should still be able to physically couple. If you are on PC there are mods that fix the 166
     
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  27. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The 166 can't couple to the 158 due to wiring differences.
     
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    Any plans to fix the half lights bug on the 158 where the passenger lights go into half mode when doors are closed and full mode.when door are open. They should only go into half mode when the engine is off
     
  29. 14trainfan2029

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    I just done a service just now with the hst, and apparently I am unable to complete the service, I have had this issue before with other services as well. 620d7faf-2d43-4f64-b23d-a4e8b94f1ceb.png
     
  30. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Did you lock the doors. Or did you arrive too early?
     
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  31. MP600

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    After the patch just gone I decided to do a service with the 158 and try out the guard functions for once as seen in the Scotrail 158 showcase. First station all went fine. Second station, after I got all the doors closed, guard key out and returned to drive, I had no power. It were as though I had the DRA enabled, but there was no indication that I did and even switching the DRA on and then off again did nothing to bring the throttle function back. I ended up having to use the I'm Stuck function and switch the DRA off, then on, then back off again before I was able to drive.
     
  32. 14trainfan2029

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    I just about arrived on time
     
  33. rennekton#1349

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    If you arrive early, wait until the actual time and then open and close the doors again. Also which specific services
     
  34. 14trainfan2029

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    It didn't say lock doors in the end
     
  35. 14trainfan2029

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    This was a Leicester to Nottingham 2+6 hst service as well. It called at Loughborough, Beeston and Nottingham
     
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    I have also noticed another issue towards the Derby end, haven't checked the Nottingham side, but on some roads/bridges, the cars are driving on the wrong side of the road which in most uk route, the cars are on the left side. 6da57ca2-45ee-49b2-b717-a4b18a149814.png
     
  37. MP600

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    This is down to the 166 having an older set of code on the coupling. The same applied for Rivet's 150/2 as that can't couple with either of them. They seem to have unified the coding now however, as the 158, 142 and 170 are all compatible. We can only hope that the 150 and 166 may be updated to this unified system in future.
     
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  38. sadler_owls

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    Still get crashing on PS5. The 2 part HST service from Leicester to Derby via Nottingham is a shocker for crashes on AWS warnings (always a single or double amber aspect when it crashes).

    Today was the first time I managed to complete it thanks to the save feature (it crashed 3 times overall).

    No other route on the game is this unstable.
     
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  39. razmatus#2517

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    try sth like Validate game files - thats on Steam, I guess there is some equivalent feature on consoles? that checks if all files are ok and if not it re-downloads those and patches them in... I had a problem with Boston Sprinter crashing a service of F40PH to Providence... only revalidation of files and subsequent download of the bad file fixed it :)
     
  40. sadler_owls

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    It's nothing to do with that. This add on has ALWAYS been unstable. It was almost unplayable on PlayStation on release. I appreciate a lot of the crashing issues have been fixed but there is still some that do exist. As I stated in my original post no other routes crash like this one.
     
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    so I guess you tried usual stuff like deleting and reinstalling the DLC and such? I have no experience with PS so I am afraid I cant help you then, I guess
     
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    As sadler_owls said, that has nothing to do with it and solves nothing. MML seems to behave mostly now on PS5, but I still recall 3 crashes - which is as much or more than every other route combined has given me over the years. Something still isn’t right with the route (or the HST).
     
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    Anyone know if there are 4 car services for the 158 please
     
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    I haven't come across any during my many hours playing MML and I think Skyhook said there weren't any 4 car services (not even ECS moves).
     
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    Thank you
     
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    I have an issue with AWS when leaving Leicester on the "chasing yellows" scenario.
    As I leave the station, the first signal is yellow and the AWS alarms.
    I correctly acknowledge the AWS alarm and proceed but shortly after the yellow the train applies emergency brakes anyway.

    If I then continue the same happens on approach towards Nottingham, between the 80 and 40 mph limits.
     
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    Are you approaching signals at caution or danger with the power applied? This will trip the TPWS system.
     
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    That could be a reason, I'll have to test and take note. I've not had TPWS trip for that reason on caution aspects for other scenarios so that hadn't occurred to me.

    Edit / Update: Thank you LucaZone, that was entirely the reason. I have learnt something new.
     
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  49. trainman#4695

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    Please read my post about the bug I have come across same for the Scot rail 158
     
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    Weird one today - signal outside Attenborough heading in Nottingham direction was apparently - and as expected since I'd passed doubles -single yellow, but I passed it and had game over for passing red. Loaded last checkpoint to do run again from East Midlands parkway and had same aspect sequence, this time I stopped at the single yellow (from which, looking ahead, I could see a stationary 158 in Attenborough on my line - so the signal really ought to have been at danger). And indeed I saw in map that it was red. But Tabbing, I got the "proceed as singles indicate" message.

    All of this suggests to me that there are two signals there with mere cm after each other or something like that. Anyone else encountered this?
     

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