Tadami Line Screenshots

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  1. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    I know these kind of routes is not everyone's cup of tea, but it's fair to give UW a chance. It's the first ever asian route in TSW, hopefully not the last and UW can succesfully finish their first TSW DLC.

    I'm already excited for the fact that a) it's a new 3rd party, b) it's a new country and c) it's a very different and unique experience.
    I hope this attracts more people from asia, asking for more content. I'm sure UW is capable for a lot of things after they learned how to use the editor. And more of Japan is very welcome in TSW!
     
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  2. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    But there is AI traffic on single branch lines as well.

    There could be a lot of AI traffic dependent on the route in the start and/or end station. And not to forget the characteristic stop and wait situations of a single branch line, where one train needs to wait for the other to pass the track. I personally find situations like that very enjoying.

    Isn't that something for yours?
     
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  3. OldVern

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    Agreed. I mean I tried those Ongakukan videoclip sims but although professionally done, you can’t hide the fact you are just driving exactly that. Now if some of those routes were to come to TSW would be almost guaranteed Day One purchase for me.
     
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  4. RobertSchulz

    RobertSchulz Well-Known Member

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    Also 2 track commuters are not everyone's cup of tea and there might be people outside there who prefer single branches like that over a mainline route.

    I know it's also not everyone's cup of tea, but I would wish myself a high speed japanese line in TSW.

    A duckbill train in a Dovetail Game. :)
     
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  5. eldomtom2

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    There will not be a lot of AI traffic, assuming UW are faithful to the real-life timetable.
     
  6. Siminzhou#2794

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    Tadami line is a local line with very few local services only, no freight or express service, here is the 2024 timetable of Tadami line
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    This timetable is from the offical website of JR East, and there are only six services per day on weekday for section beyond Aizu-Kawaguchi station ( 3 for Aizu-Wakamatsu, 3 for Koide) . Section between Aizu-Wakamatsu and Aizu-Kawaguchi would be busier, with more service. Ban'etsu Sai (West) line serivce for Niitsu can also be added as layer at Aizu-Wakamatsu (these services are also use Kiha 110 or Kiha E120, depend on period UW choose). However, those services for Koriyama can't be added since they are use EMU ( E721 series)
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    Kiha E120 at Aizu-wakamatsu
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    Ban'etsu Sai (West) line serivce for Koriyama, using E721 series
    Scenery is important, if the scenery of UW's Tadami line is bad, people may no longer willing to pay for it and it would become a failure, since that most of people that buy Tadami line aire for its scenery, not for services. I hope UW can create a high level product with a beatuiful scenery.
    An interesting fact: The road (National Route 252) among Tadami line would be closed during winter so even that Tadami line has a very low passenger number and cost JR East many money every year, it still open since it's the only available transport method for those people lived in Tadami area during winter.
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    National route 252 in Tadami, Fukushima It would closed in winter.
    However, a new road in this area is currently under construction and that road would be accessible all year round, if everything go smoothly, it would open at 2026. By that time, Tadami line may be closed if the passenger number is still droping or it get destroyed again just like 2011( A heavy rain washed away some bridge on Tadami line, it reopened on 2022) since that Tadmi line is no longer needed after its alternative route open.
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    The map of that new road, for Tadami line it may be the final nail in the coffin.
     
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  7. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    That's the timetable from Tadami. As I said, there are more services starting at Aizu-Wakamatsu that don't travel the full length of the line.
     
  8. DTG Matt

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    Don't think we have much of note to share at the moment, development is progressing still and really the next big milestone for the project is getting the route off their systems and on to our servers so it can be reviewed and we can give technical feedback on it. Once that happens I think we'll be heading towards a more clear understanding of what kinda date it's looking at.

    Please don't be disappointed if there's no update for a while, rest assured it's continuing well and we're doing everything we can to help UW get it over the line at the best quality possible.

    Matt.
     
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  9. RobertSchulz

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    No problem with that. I was just wondering why we especially see so many screenshots for this project while for other projects we don't even know that they exist or are under contract with DTG.

    Why is sharing progress so different with this project or Union Workshop (in a good way) that this can't be done in the same way with other third parties? Is it that Tadami was at a more advanced production stage than all other projects and this since its announcement in February?
     
  10. DTG Matt

    DTG Matt Executive Producer Staff Member

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    As far as I'm aware we're sharing screenshots of everything that's able to have screenshots taken of it.

    There is some extra hype over this being the first Japanese route though and there's been some drive to showcase upcoming fresh types of content perhaps in advance of where we might if it was from "the standard three". Tadami is at quite an advanced state of development too however.

    Matt.
     
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  11. LunaVisits

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    Adding some screenshots from the roadmap. I cannot wait for this route and want to refuel some of the excitement :)

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  12. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

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    I'm assuming the track shadows weren't in place at this time of development.

    Hopefully DTG can get Union Workshop some help on that.
     
  13. Agent Qracle RUS

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    After some time I realized that I was very disappointed with the choice of route - Union Workshop in general chinese developers, and it would be better if they introduced chinese route, but I'll buy this Japanese anyway in the hope for the next route from them will be purely Chinese
     
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  14. mortal1234

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    Looks so good.
     
  15. nwp1

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    All the recent routes DTG have released and those in the last few months have been so good. The Standard is getting better and l bet Just Trains WCML will exceed everything.
     
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  16. 59321747

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    It would be nice to have a route based on 80 miles. TSW has been around for five years and it’s time to ramp up development.
     
  17. nwp1

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    Birmingham to Manchester via Crewe, please.

    However Just Trains Preston to Carlisle is that long.
     
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  18. Blacknred81

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    This is Union Workshops 1st route, cut them some slack.
     
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  19. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    One thing I do hope they've changed from the TSC version, is the curious arrangement even on a fully signalled line, the player was having to change the points themselves at stations to get a "green", after checking the map first to see if an opposing train was coming in.
     
  20. mortal1234

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    I’m sure there’s a massive waterfall on this route and it’s pretty close to the track. That’s going to be real interesting seeing how it turns out. I don’t think we have seen a waterfall in TSW yet.
     
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  21. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Is this route over 4 hours long. Just had a look on google
     
  22. eldomtom2

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    Local trains take three hours to go from Aizu-Wakamatsu to Tadami.
     
  23. toms87

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    Looks interesting... never tried it on TSC. Might give this a go. I guess the mountains are using lidar?
     
  24. Double Yellow

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    If only the latest WCML went all the way to Birmingham like in the TSC version.
    I’ll give DTG their due though, they did add plenty of rolling stock and the 710 is a nice touch.
    I picked up the WCML (TSC) in sale yesterday and I’m enjoying it a lot more than the TSW version. I wish I could say it was the other way around.
     
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  25. mikec1701d

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    I’ve just had an unrelated thought for this line - the trains bundled with this route might, or should, be technically unusable on other lines. As in you won’t be able to spawn the Japanese rolling stock into free roam or timetable on any other route.

    If the devs of this route have done things properly then this line won’t be using the standard gauge used by all other routes in this game - 4ft 8 1/2 inches. It’ll be 3ft 6 inches. Only the Shinkansen in Japan operates using standard gauge.

    The opposite also applies, we won’t be able to spawn in any owned rolling stock and use it on this new line as all other rolling stock is setup for standard gauge, not the Japanese track gauge. I myself have spawned the Scotsman in on the Niddertalbahn and had a blast.

    I’m curious to know if using off the rails will override the track gauge, I know it overrides the need for overhead wires/third rail etc and can even bypass loading gauge (running full sized trains on the Bakerloo!).

    So yeah, just curious how all of this will work with the difference in track gauges and if any work has been done to allow the use of other owned rolling stock on this route and the use of the Japanese units on other routes.
     
  26. orb

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    It will work the same as with RhB Swiss routes. They have the gauge only a little different than the Japanese. You'll be able to use all the locos in off the rails mode there and the locos on other routes in off the rails, too.
     
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  27. samuelpower2001

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    I might get this route as always been interested in trying new things but part of me says to stick with what I know as in I picked up most stuff in UK signalling re systems etc.

    But German routes etc I can't seem to grasp. So hope these systems are a lot simpler.

    I also don't know if I would like the slow speed of it (believe it's so as its mountainous?).
     
  28. samuelpower2001

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    It looks beautiful mind you and hope they add new routes
     
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  29. orb

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    It is simpler.
     
  30. eldomtom2

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    Off the rails doesn't need to override it - you can place standard gauge trains on narrow gauge track and narrow gauge trains on standard gauge track in free roam already (which doesn't have off the rails enabled) and they run fine.
    Which now that I think about it makes me doubt DTG Matt 's claim that the trains are kept on the track the same way real trains are...
     
  31. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Will the preview stream include the whole route or highlight just a snippet. Very curious overall as its one of th3 longest routes in terms of time to complete as over 3 hours. Interesting nonetheless
     
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    And hope we hear more soon
     
  33. LunaVisits

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    Preview streams generally include the whole route, however according to the roadmap, this route will not release till 2025, so I wouldn't expect a preview stream anytime soon. Just snippets of information during roadmap streams and the occasional screenshot.
     
  34. orb

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    Could be a part in the preview and another part for the launch, or Ambassadors will show the whole end to end runs.

    If I remember correctly, even scenarios for the route that are included with the Tadami DLC in TSC are divided in halves, as they would take too long from one end to another in one run.
     
  35. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    The route looks gorgeous from the screenshots so far. I hope we will be seeing snippets of the KiHa 40 soon.
     
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  36. quincy#8974

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    Hi, im not from the Japanese area nor know much about its rauilways apart from the famous stuff such as bullet train. Will this route be set in Modern time or an older route such as Niddertalbahn? Like a Japanese Niddertalbahn. Thanks
     
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    Anyone remember those days when we have KiHa in MSTS.
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    Reminds me a little of a class 153.
     
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  39. Dinosbacsi

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    It is similar to the Niddertalbahn in setting - being a single track diesel railcar route with low speeds (60 kmph).

    The route will most likely resemble modern times, but from what we know so far it will use the KiHa 40 as rolling stock. This does mean it's not entirely up to date, as by now the KiHa 40s have been replaced by newer rolling stock on the line in real life. But just a few years ago they were still active, so it's not like we go back decades in time.
     
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    Ah thank you. I’m hoping it’s the quality of Niddertalbahn too. Might need to pick this up if the reviews are good.
     
  41. Dinosbacsi

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    Well the screenshots so far look gorgeous, so I'm hopeful. Other than the scenery itself, the rest is basically just the single train used on the line and the timetable. The timetable can't really be done badly, as it's a quite low traffic line to begin with. So unless they screw up the KiHa 40 really badly, I don't see how it could be bad route.

    What I am eager to see if they will be implementing japanese passengers and road traffic, or will they be using the regular western TSW assets?
     
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    I do hope every body got their Berlitz manual handy for this, everything will be written in Japanese, and all information spoken will also be in Japanese
     
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    Nice model but, but... as we know from TSC, UW can be a bit hit and miss when it comes to sounds.
     
  45. Dinosbacsi

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    Ooh, nice! It was about time we finally see the first shots of it.

    It does seem a bit off at places though. But seeing there is no interior yet, I assume it is far from finished, so hopefully adjustments will be made.

    Yeah, sounds and physics were never their strength. But hopefully DTG helps them enough to do something good.
     
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    As DTG is somewhat self hit and miss when it comes to sounds im not sure thas would ultimately result in something special. Still, its UWs first route for TSW, surely they wanna have an impressive first release. If the Physics and sounds are anywhere near as good as their route looks so far, we are in for a treat.
     
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    I just hope they do the physics right...
    The Kiha 40 is gorgeous, unfortunately not running anymore in Northeastern Japan, but still a lot in the West. Had the chance to ride them a few times this summer and enjoy every ride with them.
    But as good as Union Workshop's routes and trains look, the physics and sounds are mostly mediocre, especially if you know the prototype... Even the recent E233 has nothing to do with reality. It would be a shame if the first Japanese route in TSW would be the same as their TS routes.
     
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  49. OldVern

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    Yes they have got to get this right, we don’t want another Rivet on our hands with a nice looking route but let down by the train quality.
     
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    I wonder about that. I'm hoping that the whole simugraph system gives them a good enough framework to do something solid. Though honestly I'm not expecting much, if it's on par with their TSC quality, I'm happy enough.

    My biggest issue with their trains in TSC was simply that the controls are way too sensitive so it was hard to get into the correct notches by keyboard.
     

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