Road Map Train Sim World Roadmap - June 2024

Possibly because every single thing on the roadmap will be released before TSW5.

 

So this either means there will be a Rush Hour-esque route bundle (in which case I still believe there will be huge core changes and a DLC release break before and after - basically like a new game, except it’s a free patch for everyone) OR there will be a new game and it simply won’t be named TSW5, but TSW 2025 or so instead

 

I think what we will still see in tsw4 are the items in 0-3 months section, from 4-6 months and tbc will only be in the future (and very likely) tsw5
btw, I think san bernardino line, german route and uk route (from 4-6 months section) will be part of a package of 3 future tsw5 base routes or perhaps some rush hour style package

 

Yes. That service is even drivable in TSW4 ECML around 4/430pm ish I think. I believe it'll show up in the timetable as KGX- EDB but the p.i.s all say GLC

 

Best to put it in the troubleshooting and issues section

 

Very excited by the 218 and 101. That snow texture on the 218 looks incredible and is a far cry from what is usually passed off as a snow-covered train in TSW. Here's hoping the sounds will live up to the real thing. It's also nice to finally have a loco to look forward to on HBK since every other loco has significant problems.

I agree. There's no point in them being on the roadmap where most people can't even interact with them at all. They should get their own article/stream/etc. for those interested.

 

The 218 was "the next release" in the May Roadmap stream.
The 218 is "the next release" in the June Roadmap stream.
I wonder in July whether the 218 is "the next release".....

The past DTG UK routes have been:

March 2024 - Goblin
September 2023 - ECML (TSW4 launch)

The June Roadmap seems to hint that a UK, German and USA route are due in September,
so do we deduce that TSW5 is a thing at this point.

 

The 801 on Cathcart is actually a layer I'd prefer they remove, as it was recently announced LNER are withdrawing their single Glasgow service.

This is the least interested in TSW I think I've ever been. I really only play British routes and there's been no news on that front for months. At least tell us what's coming next.

It's very telling that by far the most interesting part of the roadmap is the community projects, likely deliberately to mask the lack of news.

 

Yeah as a console player I don't think Community Projects should be in the official roadmap either.

 

Alex commented on the stream that it's been in the 0-3 month category for 2 months now, which gives a clue as to how soon it is coming.

 

Was hoping the roadmap was going to be a lot more exciting than this, but looking forward to the 218, Expert 101 and Cathcart remaster, nonetheless.

However, now TSW has Vorarlberg, Semmeringbahn and Salzburg-Rosenheim, I really want more Austrian content going forward, so DTG, more of Austria for TSW, please!

 

As nice as that is to say.... how many trains can one tiny country have in game? Not one train in South America, Africa, Asia, Australia.... I get that they'd be more work or travel or have to be 3rd party but....wow given that most of the world's population isn't in the areas with the routes currently it seems odd we don't have more variety.

As cool as another US or UK route would be, I'm really looking forward to Tadashi as the first non-Anglo-Euro route in the game. Even Eastern Europe would seem to be low hanging fruit at this point.
Are there not railfans and potential customers in other parts of the world?
Seriously... I dunno.... I'm curious.

 

I believe that ANDgames who produced the Taurus Mountains route [Turkey] in TSC are looking into producing TSW content, possibly next year when they have completed current TSC projects.

 

Cathcart is not set in 2024! As should be obvious from the 314s

 

Maybe.
But I think it would not be a good idea to put another EMD F125 at the launch of TSW5. Here they have been waiting for years for the GE P42DC (or a similar model P32AC) of which there has not yet been a shadow.
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As for the suspensions, I found the movement of the BR Class 47 realistic, much less that of the carriages (super springy: up, down, up, down, up, down). As for the DB BR 218, I did not appreciate it in TS, and I will hardly appreciate it in TSW. For me it is little more than a new piece to collect and to add to the traffic (AI) to make it more varied.

For the new DB BR 101 instead I am starting to get hyped, and I am sorry. Because it goes against my will.

 

Licenses are also required to gain rights to use the train and access reference material. Dtg also can't do everything by themselves. Demand is also high in the big 3 so it's up to 3rd parties who are experts to expand into other territories. Sure players want the whole world but it's not as simple as just create it.

Dtg already explained it but the p42 is unlikely to happen because there's too much work required for it for very little gameplay. Lots of different coaches to model and the loco itself for only 2 services per route. Matt also brought up having to buy multiple dlc on top of that making it less desirable price wise to get more gameplay

 

I must say the more I hear about the expert 101 the more I like it. It remains to be seen how well TSW really copes with this, though. There is one aspect I am worried about and that is the handling of the door closing, which should not be done by the driver. The way I understand it is that TSW is not set up for an “automatic” operation like this. However, Matt’s comments during the livestream were encouraging. It seems DTG is also willing to adapt its core code as well…

 

What CAN happen: New DE route is something in the Frankfurt, Stuttgart or Düsseldorf area.
That could give new room for the 420 as there are new plans for it.
That can be something that's holding back Köln-Aachen timetable because the 420 can be included there when it is available.

 

I don't know much about American trains, that's the premise. Why do you talk about only 2 services per route? Maybe it's the P32AC that is used more often? I really don't know. But I think that with a GE Pxx the North American side of TSW would extend quite a bit. I'm talking about new routes.
In the videos I've seen this locomotive (not knowing exactly if it's a P42, P32 or something else but the look and the front are the same anyway) pretty often from New York to Los Angeles via Chicago. But also to Miami! It would be a lot of work to make it, ok. But then you would find yourself using it on 20 or 30 new routes so the initial cost would be recovered I think. I see it a bit as if there were no iconic DB BR 101 as far as Germany is concerned.

 

The P32AC-DM is a dual mode version of the P40DC/P42DC locomotive, used around New York by both Amtrak and Metro-North. All really can fall under the "Genesis" name.

Amtrak uses them for the Empire Service out of New York (12 round trip services) with 2 additional services for the Lake Shore Limited.


The P40's and P42's are used on Amtraks other routes, including the long distance trains, which are only one a day or once every other day depending on the route, hence the "2 times a day", but they at least they would add some variety to existing US routes (Such as Cajon Pass, which has 3 stops)


Im still in the boat that DTG should add the P42's and Superliner stock sooner than later, as it opens up the trains to be layered into new timetables for new routes. (Either as drivable or AI, depending on the route)

The P32AC-DM's I feel like will come eventually as DTG continues to build routes around the New York area.

 

Let me guess: in the first two pictures they are both Empire Service? I think I recognize them from the logo.

 

The 2nd one is, the 1st one is the Lake Shore Limited (As noted by the Viewliner Long Distant Stock)

 

Could the MTA also be coming to Buffalo? While the last picture is perhaps the service (Zephyr?) from Chicago to San Francisco?
Anyways, I love these trains. They look like robots (sometying like Transformers)

 

That the Southwest Chief between Chicago and Los Angeles. (Photo is on Cajon Pass)

 

The P32AC-DM arose out of the century-old New York City ordinance prohibiting steam and diesel locomotives within city limits. It was built for that market and pretty much only exists on trains in and out of NYC.

 

Yes, it gets a bit tedious each month when all DTG say is ‘we’re not ready to talk about release dates or routes at this time”….in all honesty Im not convinced that the Roadmaps in their current format are of any benefit to anyone!

 

Im guessing its a ‘filler’ as they have nothing much to announce?

 

As filler I get it, but seeing as it only carers to 1/3rd of players, it's pretty pointless. I'd be exactly the same if there was something for Console players only and it was being shown on the Roadmap as a "Here's what you could have won"

 

Thanks for the insightful reply, Matt! Much appreciated.

 

The 314s were withdrawn in 2019 and they're still in the TSW route..

 

Ah of course. My mistake. The 380 coming to the route has got me into the mindset of thinking it's a present day route now.

 

No, the timetable isn't held back because of the 420. Matt already confirmed this on another thread. The timetable isn't finished yet as Joe's working on the GCC timetable right now.

 

Why not just use the P40/F40? We already have them in game for the Northeast and Boston routes. To make it "AMTRAK" you'd just need a new livery basically. I get that the 42 is "newer" but AMTRAK has been around for a long time and so have those routes so an AMTRAK livery F40PH would be simple and just a matter of integrating it into routes. As I've said before, it ALREADY fits on many of the routes in game, there are AMTRAK routes that use Antelope, Cajon Pass, Peninsula, Northeast, Boston, etc. Basically every US route in game would reasonably be a candidate for the AMTRAK F40PH. Now whether they want to add the layers for it, that's another matter. HOwever, the low cost of development (just the time it takes to plug in the timetables basically) would mean a LOW COST DLC would be very cost-effective and have lots of buyers.

Based on that success, DTG could decide if they want to go through the work of adding a 42 into game. (Not sure what the licensing entails, but there's zero issue with the F40PH because it's already in game, so do the low hanging fruit first)

 

Era. Amtrak retired its F40s years ago, and I don';t believe there are any routes in the US (aside from Clinchfield) older than 2016.

Besides, if DTG want to include Amtrak anywhere outside the NEC, they would need to do coaches along with the loco, since most Amtrak routes run Superliners. Amfleets are only hanging on on the NEC because Superliners are too tall for some of the tunnels.

 

I feel like I get ignored sometimes when I bring up issues like this. DTG Matt Sorry for the ping but would you be able to provide an official response to the quoted post? Another major functional inconsistency is the the actual main air reservoir hose on class 37s and the class 33 does not mate with other locos/stock that also features the same main res pipe.

 

As far as I'm concerned, without ToD4, DTG can do without the timetable upgrade of the Köln-Aachen line.

Obviously this is a personal opinion.

 

because I find the F40 hideous while the P40 is unique and much more iconic. In my opinion, it can't be missing (in TS they even gave it away as a Genesis Pxx).
But do you think DTG should stop bringing out new locomotives now because we've already collected enough of them in the game? Sure, let's use the ones we have but a nice brand new Genesis can't be missing from a respectable train fleet. We already have some carriages if I'm not mistaken (the long-distance ones are missing). I've been waiting for the Pxx (32, 40, 42) since 2018, and I don't think I'm the only one. It's 2024, they might even make it.

Anyway, the discussion about the P42 (now that I think about it) gives rise to a probable launch of TSW5. Well, in the American route, instead of something we already have, I had suggested putting the Genesis Pxx, which I think would attract a lot of new users.

 

When will the next roadmap be. 5 weeks or 4?

 

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