Upcoming Release Db Br 218 Diesel Loco - Coming Soon!

No tod4 for HBL? Not a lot of layers for this one either…

I hope DTG don’t assume we don’t like loco DLC’s when stuff like this doesn’t sell, there’s just not a lot going on here

 

I'm more interested in trains than routes.
I don't have the Maintalbahn (and will never buy one, because it's awful) and I don't use the ToD3 routes anymore.
Perfect for Free Roam.

 

Sooooooooooooo looking forward for the loco and a release of TSG (which implies: hitting F5 until it's available to buy - instantly buy it)

 

sounds awesome, but how do you set up stuff when in formation with 112? neither has MU switch

 

Looking forward to getting it, but I have 2 questions about the price

Is there a reason it is £14.99 rather than £11.99 - will this be the standard price of loco DLC's from now on?

Also, is there no preorder discount?

 

No TOD4 for Hamburg is a real bummer- if it didn't come with this DLC, it probably never will. I have no interest in going back to the awful old lighting at this point. When you look at the improvements coming to Cathcart with the 380 DLC, it doesn't seem like comparable value.

I was very excited about this initially, but, honestly, a handful of services on Maintalbahn isn't much to write home about. I wonder if there was supposed to be a route out by now that would have been a better fit and something happened that messed up the scheduling?

And, including "free roam ideas" as part of the marketing pitch is a bit rich, isn't it? Like, you couldn't have just included that railtour service?

Definitely waiting until this is out in the wild for a bit before deciding- TSG's work has all been excellent, but just too many odd choices on this one for an immediate purchase.

 

Really looking forward to the 218, but I must admit I am a little dissapointed that Hamburg-Lübeck isn’t getting TOD4.

 

Im buying it day 1 full price to support TSG and maik golz, instead ill give the 380 a skip until sale because DTG didnt bother to implement the new lighting here with hamburg lübeck.

I would even buy the 420 with no layers at all to support tsg, this project is stuck because DTG doesnt care about münchen - augsburg.

 

I really don't understand this DLC. Why would I want to drive Hauptstrecke Hamburg again? There is no incentive to with this DLC. It's not the best of German routes and it's not updated.

I hope you don't need TSW4 to buy this download as this could be interesting for those on older versions of TSW.

 

And unfortunately the (important for me) sound - once again - only sounds mediocre and poorly mixed, even if it comes from real recordings. It's a shame, they could have delivered a "cool thing" with the 218 in particular.

I would have preferred not to have anything to complain about, but there is always something at TSW that catches the eye or ear.

 

I'm so looking forward to this release we have been waiting years for this

 

Very excited for the 218 and the fact that Hamburg-Lubeck - one of my favourite routes - gets more services and variety is even better; I hope many more older routes get DLC like this whether from DTG or third-party as it brings so much needed freshness and vital new long-term gameplay.

However, I do agree with others that it seems a hugely wasted opportunity for the route to not get a TOD 4 overhaul, especially when Cathcart and its new loco DLC will have it (where's the consistency?). Fortunately, I still play older non-TOD 4 routes as much as the newer ones, so I'm not majorly bothered overall although I still would like to see all older routes become TOD 4 obviously though.

Now this is great news. Lubeck always felt like it was emptier than it should be, so I'm happy to see this. Again, this is what should be done more for TSW overall - add more newer DLC to older routes to make them busier etc.

 

All in all great news! Great to see we have finally another german loco DLC. And the first big german Diesel loco. I'm excited for the preview streams

 

Have I missed a preview? Where do you get this info from?

Apart: really looking forward to this release!

Edit: disregard my question, found the YT link

 

Hi DTG Harry.

The forum posts related to dovetail live articles usually include a link to the article at the start of the post. You can see an example of how it is usually done in the previous LIRR post. Some of us use these links to get to articles instead of going thru the dovetail live news list (the DTL framework is really slow to load).

Link to the dovetail live article: https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/train-sim-world/articles/article/db-br-218-coming-soon

 

I will definitely buy it for Xbox one but wait for a reasonable discount for adding it to my steam collection.

 

The 112 (which would normally haul the train itself on its own) is just dead weight in that formation. If I remember correctly, this was done like that to get the 218s to and from the workshop in Lübeck without needing an extra path for a light loco move.

 

Thank you. I'm sure people will find it better there.

 

The snowplough still looks wrong there should be a gap between the plough and bufferbeam

 

TSG made many very good german Tsw dlcs possible with their 2nd party content for DTG. (Ice1, br101, br111, br110, br103..).

To me it looks like they leave maik golz entirely in the rain with no lighting upgrade for hamburg. Same goes for münchen.

This clearly would be an advertisement booster...but no. My answer will arrive with skipping even more dovetail content.

 

Wunderbar!

 

Besides I'm disappointed for not getting a ToD 4 Update for HBK, I'm really looking forward to this release Hope it will be the same quality as the other DLC's from TSG. Very happy to spend money here.

I also expect this loco will have a bright future with some upcoming german routes.

 

I've been looking forward to this so an instant buy from me. Shame about the layers though, One really poor route that I've barely touched it was so bad and one old route with TOD3. Still I guess the modders will save us with some decent timetables on other routes and maybe there's a decent German route for it in TSW5 ;-)

 

Impressive and it needs more routes to run on like Vorarlberg EC München Hbf Zürich Hbf by running Lindau-Lustenau section. If 1990s paint Niddertalbahn Bad Vilbel Glauburg-Stockheim.

 

Like what I have seen, so far. The TOD3 was discussed a long time ago and already confirmed by DTG that this is not planned, hence the feeling of disapointment has already passed quite some time ago

I do have a question, though. I have noticed this already in the past: why dont we have moving and animated cables and "hanging stuff" in cabs?! UE clearly can handle this and also TSW shows this in many ways. The cable of the radio is pretty much in your face on the 218 and it is somehow awkward looking at it not moving while the loco is moving...

 

We absolutely thought about that. But it's not possible. Alembic is not working well in TSW because of the origin shifting. The cable components look bad with such a cable that needs transparency. Cable components only work with a hose type mesh, or would look bad, especially when so close to the player.

 

Yep, I thought that there must be a reason. Thanks for picking this up and answering!

 

Will the services on HBK only be available on timetable mode or will the DLC have it's own "journey" chapter where services and scenarios are mixed up?

 

Journey mode is there too.

 

(German) Passenger Loco - I'll get it.

 

To add that this will be day 1 purchase. The first ever I do in TSW.

 

For me too! Unfortunately no preorder...

 

I'll say it again, I was looking forward a lot to 218, but mainly to drive freights with it. Offering just a handful of services on a route that is not interesting for freight at all (almost no stations along the way, and the Rothenburgsort branch that was never really finished object- and signalling-wise) move this certainly into "wait for discount", or at least "wait for future routes that can actually offer gameplay for the DLC" category. :/

 

Too "iconic" not to own it immediately...
Then it seems to me that TSW is equipped with tools to make every wish come true.
As for me, I would pay a lot of money to have one DLC like this per month ( BR 151,140,181.2,294 etc.).

 

Tbh, I would rather have DTG giving me the opportunity to actually chose the state of freight Waggons on the consist editor (loaded/unloaded), as freight on HBK is very limited anyway, as you can’t manipulate the brake settings. I don’t mind the few services, as I will rather drive this on other routes in free roam.

I think this cannot be missed on day one. Unfortunately I am not home until the 28th late (so it will only be a day 4 buy for me…)

 

You can be sure, that there will be more opportunities to take this beauty on the track in the future.

 

• Does that mean that we're getting an n-Wagen cab car with a diesel desk, but not a Dosto?

 

ooooh ok... weird, but ok

 

Can we be sure, though?

I know i'll pick this up eventually, and i'm sure it will be modeled well, but the lack of gameplay and layers is a worry for me.

I enjoy a bit of free-roam, but also really enjoy being able to see the locos i buy as AI trafffic, which will be sadly missing for me as i'm not going back to the awful old lighting on Hamburg-Lubeck.

It's really the biggest sticking point for me and i just can't wrap my mind around it.

I just wish we could get some official word or explanation on why TOD4 is so inconsistently applied:

UP Heritage Collection for Sherman Hill- TOD 4 upgrade

NS Heritage Collection for Horseshoe Curve- no upgrade

Class 380 DLC for Cathcart- TOD4 upgrade

BR218 DLC for Hamburg- no upgrade

Make it make sense DTG

 

Hier ist meiner Meinung nach eine viel bessere Vorschau des Klangs:Cool:

 

Simple: when DTG release a loco DLC, they give its base route a TOD4 upgrade. When a third party releases a loco DLC, DTG doesn't.

 

They never ran the service beyond Lindau - that was an SBB Re 4/4 II, which I've been calling for for years, it would make Luzern - Sursee worth playing and could slot into any SBB route.

 

This looks good, and should add life to a fairly dull route in Hamburg - Lubeck. Needs to appear on more routes though - I presume it'll be a mainstay of future German addons, but back-layering would be good too.

 

Very impressive, looking forward to the 218!

 

That's a pretty poor show by DTG, then.

From my perspective as a customer, there's no difference between 1st and 3rd party- it's official paid DLC and is all published by the same company. It should all be up to the same quality standard IMO.

Not to mention it does a disservice to the reputations of all involved.

If new-ish player (started with TSW3 or later) buys the 218 and Hamburg to run it on, then leaves a negative review on both because the lighting looks like garbage compared to newer releases, how is that good for anyone?

It's a moot point now anyway, they've made their choices.

 

DTG’s pricing model is getting silly, there is no consistency whatsoever now! £9.99 is what is should have been! Not a day one purchase for me unfortunately.

 

There is no Dosto with an specific diesel desk. You can control the 218 from the regular 766/767 cab.