Bought the Pegnitztalbahn and the Virtual Railroad 218 in the Steam sale yesterday evening. Jumped straight in the first scenario RE3477. Departing from Nurnberg about 2 minutes out game terminated with a SPAD. Rather odd as running under clear signals. Restarted the scenario and watching more carefully I noticed there is a ground/shunt signal which is showing clear as you approach it, but changes to stop just before the train passes it. Despite my slow reflexes I was able to hit Tab just in time and get authority to pass the signal. So something needs checking out with the route and got to wonder why this was not picked up when testing the scenario. The session does start with a message you may need to Tab past some signals, but not that these will drop back to red in your face with no warning. Also worth noting from a wider gameplay core point of view, certainly in the UK a SPAD resulting from a signal reversion or incorrect aspect sequence is not generally deemed to be the driver’s fault. Provided they declare fitness to continue, they will be allowed to carry on after collecting their thoughts and not relieved of duty. And yes I know we can turn SPAD’s off, but that doesn’t negate the fact there is an issue with the signalling that needs to be addressed.
Maybe have a look at the ground signal in the editor to see if its signal link is in the wrong place. The point about UK Drivers and SPADS is irrelevant to the game. If you had the Spad's turned off you could stop on seeing you had a Spad, collect your thoughts and proceed
If SPAD’s were turned off then you wouldn’t pick up on there being a fault. And I really don’t appreciate the snarky comment either, try posting without having to have a little dig each time?
First has to be verified if it is related to the ongoing work on protecting the game from signals flooding the dispatcher with messages. I remember I had played this without issues on release. So it could be a core issue, needs someone verifying it on a different build. Just for example, the current Beta has some restrictions on signal messaging, leading to almost all signals needing tab now. This was instantly reported to Steve, see the beta thread.
Playing vanilla here Spikee, zero mods and not running any of the Betas. Reproduceable in that when I restarted the run the same problem occurred. Next control is to a try a run with one of the default route scenarios, assuming it takes the same path.
As I know your real name, please call me by my real name too, which is Pete. Busy atm, grabbed RSSLO Rudolfsbahn... doing the usual post-install round of fixes (cab occlusion, camera, change all weather patterns to AP-compliant ones in the scenarios.)
I will have to pencil "Rudolf" in for another time. My main distraction at present is GTA San Andreas, started a playthrough after many years absence and trying to grab all the grafitti tags in Los Santos!
Having become addicted to the 218 in TSW (even to the extent of buying and enjoying Maintalbahn) afraid I reached for the infamous refund button on this pair. Maybe another time…
I was suggesting that looking in the Editor you might spot if one of the signal links is wrong - I don't have the route to check myself. Not sure what you mean by Snarky Comment?
The fact you had to make the observation about my statement that a SPAD caused by a signal reversion should not relieve the driver of duty, unless they are too shaken to continue. In the case of TSC, that should be take another swig of beer and carry on… Anyhow NVM it’s too hot and sunny to bicker on a train sim forum and the route and train have both been refunded in favour of something for TSW…
As an ex driver I have a few times where a Green at one signal and the next was Red - see how fast the train stops Around junctions you don't know if the Signal Reversion was caused by another train having a Spad and maybe in your direction My comment was not meant to be Snarky - The vR 218 is still worth getting at some point
Anyhow I rebought the route and 218. Not tried the scenario in question yet but departed from Nurnberg with no issues or ground signals reverting. Must say very nice and quite enjoying the drive so far.
Just had another bug with the route. Went to load my my saved scenario with the Class 612, dropped in the world but no sign of my train! Can't say I've ever had that happen before in TSC... Very odd.
Well I finally managed to complete a run on this route yesterday evening, with the 612. Overall nice bit of work but got caught out in a couple of places by signal speed limits which were not shown on either the Vor or Haupt signals. Reduced to 60 km/h but then got hit with 40 in a couple of places, one exiting a passing loop on the single track section, the other running into Nurnberg. Probably user error. The other oddity is the sound effects of the AI 612. Just suddenly get this loud whirring noise in the cab, the train appears then passes and the sound abruptly stops. No rise or fall in volume. And got to say, I prefer the 612 in TSW to this TSC version.
A Vr2 (yellow/green) generally means - if nothing else is announced via a Zs 3v (speed indicator) - SLOW DOWN TO 40 KM/H before the upcoming signal. So if you don't have route knowledge already, always aim for 40 km/h.
