Enough Is Enough!!! The Ongoing Saga!!! 3 Year Anniversary

I normally don't block people, but he "Mr twisted Nickers" will be the 2nd on these forums.
And now I feel like a Fool for letting it go this far.

 

Maybe it needs a person going in between now. Let it be me now.

Remember that any escalating conversation might lead to locking this thread.

And I guess we all would not want that to happen just because of that.

 

Holy Frijoles that's beautiful

 

Train Sim World Tycoon. Interesting.

Edit: it's something with Roblox, as it's also called "Train Sim World Roblox" in the documents.

 

So this is what is next for DTG, Heck my fix is what is broken, let us make Train Sim World Tycoon.
do you have the link to this release info.

 

I don’t follow TSW at all, as I didn’t upgrade to 3 and neither to 4. My money is on SimRail if it ever gets past Early Access however! The divide and sworn enemies mentality is really typical and of historical significance, a people act as their DNA intends…

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...ndirect-train-sim-world-5-confirmation.82554/

 

Here we go again... they've learned NOTHING...

 

Any ideas on what the new Routes or features will be in TSW5 ?

 

You should make a new thread with that question!

 

No, we have plenty of threads about the subject already.

 

One British route with a one handles EMU.

One German route with Dostos.

One American commuter route.

 

Any actual official information from DTG or are you just assume because a thread has made a speculation

 

Oh how pleasantly surprised I would be if it turned out to be wrong... but that's not exactly how DTG works these days, is it? Given the evidence is identical to the way TSW4 was found out about... I have little hope

 

So that would be a no then.

 

Not forgetting the Great British Class 66 for the token freight working.
And the tedious trek around the Training Centre teaching you naff all about the safety systems, but of course “coasting is important to save energy.”

 

In other words, lifeless and predictable.

 

That's why I rarely venture into th¡e Training Center. Doesn't teach you anything about AWS or other safety systems placement and nothing about starting, driving and stopping a train you couldn't figure out for yourself

 

As it is in TSW4 YES, I agree 100% However in TSW3 it was a fair bit better, and some of the trains did go into a little more detail, but currently the Training center is more of Free for all play ground, not for training, just do what you want. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1] put key in
2] turn key to on position
3] put reverser in forward
4] push power/brake handle to get moving
5] pull power/brake handle to stop
6] & 6B] open door - close door
7] congratulations on learning the basics

 

It still annoys me that the train tutorials, which you have to complete as part of Journey mode, all take place on Training Centre now.

 

Although, annoyingly, the Class 66 is pretty much the only freight locomotive in use in the UK, bar some specific uses of other classes in particular locations.

 

This thread feels more relevant than ever

 

And they all do the exact same thing.

Passenger train= Go around the loop, stop at the station, end of training.

Freight loco= Go to the yard, reverse onto the wagons, move to the siding, End of training.

It doesn't tell us how to activate safety systems or how to set up the train etc etc. Its dull. The scenarios teach us more about how to operate the train.

 

They have always been that way. If they're going to talk about the same things I'd prefer them to be very brief like the older ones, or go into much more detail to justify their extended length. Even though I have never played journey mode and don't intend to, I still play the tutorials and treat them as mini-scenarios.

As for the newer tutorials taking place at the training centre, it was a decision made on purpose and they were right to do it.

 

And this time around it's Routes that were to be introduced with TSW4, but instead will be the new Routes in TSW5. The last new Route released was in April.

 

so we buy a new game just so we can get a little train on the loading bar does not justify a all new game now if they made tsw5 vr compatible then it will be cool

 

What exactly was in that post? Can't see it anymore

 

Believe it was a fake leak someone drew up in a few minutes, really nothing impressive, not gonna show the full image in the post.

 

This thread is about to become relevant once again

 

I think there are more console users due to the lack of any alternative on these platforms, it should be a sign that PC players are happy to stick with the older game (TSC) than move over to TSW even when steam has very good sales on almost constantly. I get the whole argument about investment in add-ons and longer routes but
The concept of TSW is far better, shame it isn’t being executed that way.

 

I also think that consoles are easier to live with. I don't want to be constantly mollycoddling PC hardware.

 

I agree with that, and consoles are far cheaper than a descent PC to start with and will be somewhat future proof for a few years

 

Well there is certainly an issue looming for PC users like me who have an old potato that can’t update to Windows 11. When support for W10 ends next year that means no more security updates and I don’t relish doing e-commerce or online banking on a PC that doesn’t have up to date protection. So the choice is either buy a new box or grab the parts - motherboard, CPU, RAM, maybe PSU - and hope it will be enough to update the PC to let W11 in. Money wise not an issue, could order a new PC tomorrow but wife objects on the grounds of why replace something that isn’t broken and still works quite well.

 

If you get no security updates it's end of life in my book. The solution looks simple: A glass of water.

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Oh that thought had occurred to me! At the moment I’m coming down on the side of upgrade as I do like my old box. Plenty of HD slots, DVD-ROM drive which a lot of the newer PC’s or cases don’t even have a slot for. My only concern on that is my manual dexterity and eyesight are not so good as they were. Also some years ago when I tried updating an earlier PC, the motherboard turned out to be faulty but the dealer wouldn’t accept the RMA alleging I had bent the pins in the CPU socket.

 

I've done a bunch of PC upgrades over the years but I'm probably not going to do another. My current PC case is so tightly packed with components, replacing even a GPU or memory would be a challenge. And putting in a new CPU looks darn near impossible without stripping down to the motherboard. Plus it has liquid cooling and I don't care to mess with that.
So it's gotta last a few more summers and then I'll just replace it.

 

If it is the TPM/processor issue than there is a number of workarounds, I upgraded an old MS Surface to Win 11 and receives updates without any issues and runs fine.

https://www.theverge.com/22715331/h...11-unsupported-cpu-intel-amd-registry-regedit

 

I have read there are ways and means which even MS tacitly acknowledge, but with warnings that even if you install Windows 11 from the iso disc, they do not guarantee if it subsequently detects your PC is below spec, it may not grab any more updates - which leaves you in the same boat as sticking with Win 10!

 

If the PC's still otherwise good, and if you can't convince the wife into buy a new computer, but can convince her to learn a new operating system you could look into replacing Windows with a Linux distro. That would at least solve the banking issue, and from what I understand Linux compatibility has improved considerably over the past few years for Windows games, you'd just need to get things like Wine & Proton installed..

 

Oh I'm sure I can coax a new mobo and CPU by working my charm! (Eventually).

 

That is scareware and totally untrue, updates just the same. The bypass is invisible to the Windows update service and it assumes the CPU is compliant. So updates are downloaded as per normal, the one caveat is that you will not get any CPU updates if they are released as your CPU is unsupported. I get updates all the time on my MS Surface too. All about risk and your risk tolerance but the biggest threat to home users is rubbish passwords, malware and phishing.

 

Schrödinger's n-Wagen Doors

 

This thread is still going? I think its starting to bend spacetime at this point

 

some relation to enough is enough?

I have just watch the roadmap stream and i am genuinely mad about something that i feel like they may be lying.
Have they ever read the suggestion forms/threads and implemented at least some or even one element into the game?
Like i dont even see train suggestions being heard from the DTG nor 3rd Party teams unless can someone ever confirm about this? Cuz hell i see tons of people still suggesting class 91 and mk4s yet any developers seems to still be ignoring that.

also the bull they say that they say what can they do with a route when making one is utter a joke, some of the routes on DTG are some hits and most misses. Most if not all routes nowadays only come with 1 new train and some routes have cut off mid way like ECML cutting of York and or Leeds. That is infuriating.

also what did they meant about no they cant get rid of duplicated class 66s on the stream relating to distribution issue??

 

I'm in no way a tech or security expert but that sounds like a security bug to me. I'm even scratching my head how on earth it would be even possible from a security point of view. The T stands for "trusted" but how can you trust a system that you can fool yourself?

 

I dont think they lying tbh. But the latest roadmap stream left me with the same conclusion i made long before : TSW is a mess. Think about suspension, now we have scenarios where on loco has animated suspension on some routes but not on others. Some Trains dont have it at all. Routes varying in quality (thinking about Maintal).
Then the Situation with the multiple Locos like the Class 66.

And i get the point about suggestions, but have to say it feels like its been off for UK, not so much Germany because we recently got Rolling Stock that was actually highly recommended. So if you want its a mess there aswell i feel.
The Class 91 and mk4s are truly something I've read hear all over the forum.

 

They've created many routes based on suggestions. Brighton mainline was suggested many times. Players wants a long high speed route (kassel wurzburg got made). Players wanted northeast corridor (got made). Players wanted the underground (bakerloo got made). Players wanted better lighting and they got it. Players wanted remasters and they got it.

However, majority of the suggestions are outside the scope of a normal project. It can be any reason such as dtg don't have appropriate licenses, route is too long, players are asking for too much (multiple brand new rolling stock, multiple branch lines, etc), no access to the actual trains, complexity of the route, whether an appropriate route is present, return on investment, etc.

Dtg only have a limited budget and time to work on projects because they are still a business after all. They can only work with what they have and things will always be missing.

If you watched the roadmap stream, matt explained the multiple variants of the same train really well. Basically, if there is only 1 class 66 for example, whenever there is a change/update to it, it has to be tested on every single route it runs on and every service, making it a testing nightmare. One thing goes wrong, and everything breaks.

 

I know I moaned quite a bit about empty termini stations in this game, such as Glasgow, and they’ve now sorted it which is very good. I hope they carry on with that strategy. Also the free remasters are wonderful and much appreciated.

in the other hand I think most balanced users saw the ECML as starting and finishing at a very odd choice of places, the Glossop I don’t believe was requested by anyone, and making a London Overground route of just 13 miles in length whilst doing hundreds of miles of Scottish track, seems a bit biased. After all the population of London alone is more than the entirety of Scotland! The 66 situation is simply inexcusable. How many current freight locos does Germany and the US have in the game?

So they’ve done ok but could do better. As a user we are fully entitled to make constructive criticisms. You seem a little bit over protective of everything DTG does. Why?

 

Players wanted complete routes they could finish in one sitting and glossop was created. Dtg can't please everyone.

The class 66 duplication is not something dtg can fix. There are complicated technical reasons for it and we'll have to deal with it

One of the issues with uk freight is the lack of licenses, appropriate route/era or the train doesn't run as much. Gbrf and Freightliner for example doesn't want to give their license which limits options. Sure there are other trains, but there are reasons why they've not come. All we can do is wait. There is just too many 66s running in the uk.