Out Now Scotrail Class 158 - Out Now!

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  1. DTG Jamie

    DTG Jamie Community Manager Staff Member

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    The Class 158 returns courtesy of Skyhook Games with a new look, new timetable, new interior and new gameplay across Scotland’s Train Sim World routes!

    For the release of Scotland’s variant of this popular and widespread diesel multipe unit, Skyhook Games have made extensive changes to elements of both the interior and exterior.
    In the above walkaround video, taking place in Train Sim World’s Training Center, Adam takes a detailed look at the changes, which range from the addition of a snow plough at the front of the train and the distinctive blue and white ScotRail livery, to many noticeable alterations inside the train.


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    The exterior PIS has also been altered to better reflect that seen on ScotRail’s Class 158 variant.
    Interior changes include:
    • A completely new interior: New seat, table and luggage rack models
    • New interior PIS
    • Bicycle and accessible areas
    • Interactive door panel
    • Altered cab interior, including a different style of reverser
    • Overhauled lighting
    • Changes to the interior walls
    • Relevant signage throughout
    Naturally, the unit also has features in common with the East Midlands Trains variant seen in the previous Midland Main Line release, such as the GSMR panel and responsive Guard Buzzer that sounds when closing the doors.

    The Routes and Gameplay

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    A new timetable will be available in the ScotRail Express: Edinburgh – Glasgow route Add-on for players that purchase the ScotRail Class 158 Add-on.
    This new timetable will include, as playable services:
    • 144x services between Edinburgh and Glasgow Queen Street, of which 18x are run with the Class 158
    • 69x services between Edinburgh and Polmont for Dunblane, of which 42x are run with the Class 158
    • 12x services between Glasgow and Eastfield Depot, 2x of which are run with the Class 158

    3 Scenarios will also be available to play in the Fife Circle Line route Add-on, including a Scenario involving mixed working coupled to the Class 170. Skyhook Games are awaiting the addition of the Leven branch into the Fife Circle Line before developing a new timetable that includes the ScotRail Class 158.

    It will also layer in as AI into the new timetable that released with the Class 380 and the recently remastered Cathcart Circle Line route Add-on, filling in for services that would normally be run by Class 156s. There will also be a short, playable ECS move.

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    Read More : https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/train-sim-world/articles/article/scotrail-class-158-out-now
     
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  2. DB628

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    The GSMR is broken, because it’s Show Nothing on the Display
     
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  3. marcsharp2

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    It does work, you need to alter the brightness settings on it. It doesn't show the service number though.
     
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  4. CK95

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    I would say that qualifies for ‘not working’.
     
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  5. marcsharp2

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    But it still shows something.
     
  6. MarkCovz4761

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    Shame there's no auto announcements like on the 170
     
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  7. maccagee#4924

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    Could some check the messages on the PIS in the coach interiors? I was looking at some preview videos and I think there's a typo or mistake in the wording.
     
  8. MINIakaMINIpop

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    When my camera is far from the gangway it decides to bug out and also my train has wings aswell (2P62 Dunblane to Edinburgh) fcbc4b8a-8870-4fe8-84a6-612f16d5cd05.png
     
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  9. razmatus#2517

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    damn, now I want this, 380 and Cathcart... but I will hold my wallet until those 6 secret thingies get revealed :) just in case some nice German or Austrian content drops in :)
     
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  10. dwal1

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    Is it due out on Steam a bit later? No sign of it on there yet.
     
  11. Tigert1966

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    Steam is always around 6pm UK Time
     
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  12. steveownzzz#6107

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    Was hoping this would liven up Edinburgh but it’s still a total ghost town.
     
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  13. MarkCovz4761

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    I agree shame it's not like Cathcart plenty of AI and services where as this feels empty with just the 385 and 158
     
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    Yes, I mean don’t get me wrong. The 158 is beautifully done and I enjoy it more than the 385. I’ll actually play the route here and there now.

    But I’ve done a couple of services on the route (between the hours of 7am - 9am) with the 158 and both times I was the only train in EDN. That’s not ideal.
     
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  15. oliverlacey2704

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    Why has the 158 timetable removed all of the other layers on Edinburgh to Glasgow?
     
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    I think in the feedback thread, skyhook mentioned (and I’m paraphrasing here) that some creative liberties were taken to put those layers into the original timetable and they opted not to include them in the new timetable… my interpretation of that is that they wanted to stick to services that actually exist on the route IRL

    I think personally would’ve preferred just building on top of the original timetable to make the route more alive, but it is what it is
     
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  17. TrainsAndWellbeing

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    The alternative timetable makes sense to me, sort off; In the present day Class 158's do none of these services, but they did in the 90's. Class 158's replaced the push-pull Class 47, Mk3 and Mk2 DBSO sets, then in the early 2000's the Class 158's were relieved of Edinburgh to Glasgow services when the Class 170 Turbostar's were introduced. During the Turbostar era Class 158's would still do some of the Dunblane and Alloa services but very rarely an Edinburgh to Glasgow run, and even if they did they would be in a completely different livery from the Skyhook release. It is interesting to have a diesel timetable to get some experience of the pre electrification era, however I would personally have replaced the Class 385's with Class 170's instead of this fictitious mix of services.

    The current Fife Circle route is where the Class 158's belong as that's where you will see them in real life.
     
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    steveownzzz#6107 Well-Known Member

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    Did not know that, that’s helpful to know
     
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    This is the confusion I had with Adam’s input on the timetable. He said that they removed the other layers as they were artistic license from Rivet & this was also the reason they didn’t add 170’s/380’s etc.

    The skyhook TT of course being made up of 158’s that don’t run, GWR HST’s that aren’t there with 385’s. The whole concept of the 158 DLC being hosted on E2G is artistic license.

    As always with Skyhook they seem to prefer getting praise for improvements months after release, rather than just doing what they should with the release.

    The new timetable certainly seems to have higher numbers on an excel sheet, but from what I’ve seen in practice, it’s not all that busy & it’s now possible to arrive into either terminus being the only train there.
     
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    Question: where is the driver's buzzer button please?
     
  21. Melbourne_Dan

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    On the front panel, green button on the top row of buttons above the throttle lever.
     
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  22. maccagee#4924

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    Currently wandering around Haymarket station in Sprinter timetable mode and I notice Platform 2 has services for Glasgow Queen Street, as well as Platform 4.
    No Queen Street services go from P2 (with one exception which a 334 that goes to Helensburgh early morning and goes via GLQ low level).

    As much as I appreciate some 158 services for the Edinburgh-Glasgow route, even if they don't run them any more, I've just arrived a few minutes earlier on a Dunblane service to an empty Waverley.
     
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  23. Strat-tastic

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    Thanks
     
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    I have a theory that the E&G Sprinter timetable could be an entire scenario based in the future:

    Given how software dependent modern rolling stock is, is it conceivable that the Class 385's at some point will fail after a software update is put out to a large number of units? say enough that a number Fife services have to be shortened by a couple of cars to make some old units available to pickup service whilst some hackers are called in to reverse engineer the Class 385 software in an attempt to get them working again; a real life story has played out something like this in Poland where geofencing disabled some freshly serviced trains.

    Regardless of the story I'm enjoying driving like it's the 90's. All we need now is a Scotrail Class 47, some Mk3s and a Mk2 DBSO.
     
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  25. Strat-tastic

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    Found it, labelled Signal, which is probably why I passed over it. :D
     
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  26. Strat-tastic

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    I watched British Ace play a Fife scenario in which the guard controlled the doors.
    Is this only in the scenario, as playing a timetabled service on ED-GLAS it doesn't do the same, unless I have to change the setting somewhere?
     

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