Route Nahverkehr Dresden - Feedback Thread

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  1. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    I’m pretty sure they’re for GNT, not ETCS. They were present from the start but non-functional since GNT was only added later by DCZ. GNT is a safety system that allows tilting trains to go faster through curves. There’s no way for you to interact with them in-game and also no plans to plans to change this as far as we know. They’d be pretty useless without the ICE-T anyways.

    Edit: Thanks to mkraehe#6051 for correcting me. They’re not for GNT after all.
     
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  2. thirdrail#8548

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    Shame...! I assume that they won't work with the BR 612 either, then, not to mention that the balises seem mostly absent from the more twisty/bendy parts of DRA where the tilting tech would be most advantageous to have.

    (And I would definitely approve of an ICE-T or ICE-TD, especially on DCZ.)
     
  3. mkraehe#6051

    mkraehe#6051 Well-Known Member

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    Those are actually for ETCS! There have been ETCS balises between Radebeul Nord (the junction east of Coswig) and Dresden-Neustadt since 2016 (which is when the line was rebuilt with four tracks and modernized). They have never been used though as the lines from Radebeul Nord to Leipzig and Berlin don't have ECTS yet... As far as I can tell, they might become active by 2027 maybe?
     
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  4. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for correcting me! I checked and it’s true that the line is not GNT equipped.
     
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  5. dnv3

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    again a big on the DB BR442 Tsw4 always feels more like this game is coming from an indie developer....and well the breaks need a fix I think.
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    Whats the issue here? You need to explain what is wrong.
     
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    Can´t speak for him, but those shock absorbers (or dampers) look a bit displaced, don´t they.
     
  8. dnv3

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    Look at the thing at the axe. That's floating next to the train
     
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    Yep (I m sry I forget to write)
     
  10. dorianrblx#1908

    dorianrblx#1908 New Member

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    The 442 has a Bug! The Rain or Snow doesnt stay on the Windows! So I mean it doesnt even get on there!
     
  11. dnv3

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    Yea all now it
     
  12. Spikee1975

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    Better view. Don't think that will be added to the 1,000 things-to-fix list. Just accept that TSW is a mediocre and sloppily done game (with a triple-A PR department) where nothing really works as it should.

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  13. diamondderp

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    The fact that it's worse than before. Let me get the full timeline:

    - RT BR1442: static, not animated.
    - SKA BR442: animated and is fine.
    - TSW2 DRA BR442: same as SKA, only they were misplaced/misaligned
    - TSW4 DRA BR442: this
     
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  14. 14trainfan2029

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    The textures need improving, I have noticed that on this platform particularly, the texture should not be black, it should be natural textures, DTG need to sort it as it kind of brings a negative spirit to Dresden Hbf
     

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    daanloman#3930 Well-Known Member

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    the fog clears up when driving under the platform roofs. probably has been mentioned before but it's really noticable at dresden neustadt when driving with fog. I think it's a problem on every route though.
     
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  16. MXRange

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    I would like to know why when I add the TGV Duplex to the Nahverkehr Dresden route, at the time of raising the pantograph in current mode M, the message to be able to close the circuit breaker does not appear, and consequently it does not let me. This is also the case in the C and LGV modes.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    If in free roam it could be because the voltage isn't the same.
     
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  18. manny#3696

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    Since the core update from 11.04.2024, I can no longer play any Dresden Riesa DLC without freaking out! The game has a hiccup the whole way no matter which train I drive. The picture freezes for 1 second and the sound also hiccups. Before the update it ran super smooth. Please check this error so that you can use this great track again. At the moment the complete track is useless as it is.

    I have already removed all mods, reset the config and cleared the DX cache without success. It just makes me crazy. All other routes run smoothly. I play on PC via Steam.

    Please have a look at this as soon as possible.

    Greetings Manny
     
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  19. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Are you using dx11 or 12.
     
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    manny#3696 New Member

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    I am using Dx12 and at Rosenheim Salzburg, the same problems, too.
     
  21. vendys#6021

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    PS5

    I don't know, if it's a bug or a feature, but with other maps, I don't notice it. Especially at higher speeds, there is a strange blurring of the wheels on the chassis. So far I have watched Talent2 (442), freight cars and Dosto. But it's possible that all rolling stock in the map do ... we didn't look at everything

    The problem stops when I turn off Motion Blur. But on other maps, eg Voralrberg, even if Motion Blur is turned on, this phenomenon does not appear and the animation is clean

    EDIT: From what I managed to trace, on the Dresden map, all the vehicles occupied in this DLC have a problem

    Cistern cars Zacns from Dresden Nahverkehr have an animation problem on the Semmering map as well.

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  22. bdobronz1968

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    The Problem with BR 406 - since it was originally developed for TOD3 it’s hard or nearly impossible to read the PZB indicators when using the minimum HUD, depending on weather or time of day. I wonder why it wasn’t exchanged with the BR 403 from SWK, or the latter would be at least offered as a substitute. I’m totally aware the the update of DRA is just a graphic one, but in my opinion it’s not a good idea to use a TOD3-only train on a TOD4 track.
     
  23. Myron

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    agreeable, would really be better if they chose the KWG ICE 3
     
  24. 14trainfan2029

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    Hopefully as Koln - Aachen gets a new timetable, I hope DTG upgrade the route to TOD4 with TOD4 upgrade of the ICE. As they are doing the same with Cathcart Circle
     
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  25. thirdrail#8548

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    Just a guess, really: is the TGV trainset compatible with 15 kV at 16,7 Hz? If the simulation takes into account that there's a power system mismatch, then maybe some system is preventing you from what would in reality could well cause catastrophic internal damage.

    (To my knowledge the only TGVs compatible are the Eurostar Red PBKA trainsets, and the Duplexes are only compatible with 25 kV at 50 Hz and 1500 V DC.)
     
  26. Myron

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    nah, the Cathcart Circle thing is a planned TOD4 update, with a new timetable, as we also get the 380 with it. the KAH Timetable is just a timetable with no additional upgrades, so no TOD4 either. Unless it gets announced in future roadmaps sooner or later, all we get is a timetable for KAH.
     
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    I would be interested to know how easy or hard it would be for DTG to swap the Cologne-Aachen ICE with the Kassel-Würzburg ICE.
     
  28. Myron

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    should be fairly easy copying the KWG ICE 3 and then just modifying the 4 middle coaches' models, adding the pantos on the top and modifying the numbering and some other small changes so it's like the ICE 3M. that could be an idea for a potential KAH remaster, perhaps...
     
  29. Ancalagon

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    gamemode: timetable
    found a bug with the BR 143 DB if I choose "Nahverkehr Dresden: Muinch - Augsburg" on very early / late time. :(

    The headlights are not working - they only shine on the ground but not on train himself - neither the white lights, nor the red lights.
    That bug is only affected to the "Muinch - Augsburg DLC" and on early / late times and the train itself was set up correctly.

    On all the other germans DLC routes the lights are working like supposed to be like my second pic show.

    Would be fine if they would fix the headlights for Muinch - Augsburg on the BR 143 DB.
     

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    MAG is an old route which still has the TOD3 lighting system. DRA recently got upgraded with the TOD4 lighting system which is better than TOD3. An issue is, though, using TOD4 locos on TOD3 routes gives the exact issue displayed in your screenshots.
     
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  31. Ancalagon

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    Well, I hope they will fix it in future. -.-
     
  32. Myron

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    not really possible, if you really think it through.
     
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    upload_2024-8-8_7-28-35.png That's, what I got as answer so far
     
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    Freight Roderau-Dtesden

    First time driving the Vectron on this route and got about 2miles into journey. Red box appears around throttle setting, and train slows to a stop. Can't apply power red box still around throttle indicator. ?

    Happens just before Glaubitz platform 1
     
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  35. daanloman#3930

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    I suspect you missed the neutral zone. you should turn off the main circuit breaker and turn it on again if your pantograph has passed the blue sign wit the U looking symbol
     
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    Ok I will try that thanks

    I'm unfamiliar with Vectron and that route. :o

    Seems to be common on PS4, I got a blue screen crash only 900 yards from Dresden:|

    The track disappeared about 7 miles from Dresden too, for about half a mile, I thought the river had burst it's banks.

    The Vectron's horn is so nice melodic;)
     
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  37. rudi#9391

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    at the moment the scoring for the 442 in timetable is screwed. u run with 30 AP max / old scoring or ur not able to activate all safety systems for the games satisfaction, still complains u r missing something and rewards with just 35 AP.
    In both terms, no platinum medal reachable.
    Have no problems to get platinum with all the other trains.
     
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  38. razmatus#2517

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    I have reported this problem some time ago via support as a ticket, so they know about it, the question is, when or if they are going to address it... my bigger issue with 442s that I have discovered recently is that while they slow down pretty ok if you are on min or zero throttle and going either 0.0 flat or some incline, but if you are going down on descent of 0.4 or more, it is as if it barely registers this, and at 0.7 or 1.0 or more it does speed a bit up (on zero throttle) but not by much, which is weird, cos other EMUs like 423 for example experience noticeable speeding up if you let em down an incline
     
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  39. rudi#9391

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    Okay, so we have to wait probably until TSW 6 to see if they are going to fix it in TSW 5 ^^
    I noticed your issue as well as I'm playing pretty much every route and stock since 5 came out. It feels like some EMU's are kind of braking when u r not throttling. Not like active braking, more like motor restriction which leads to no speeding up when you just slightly go down.
    But I'm just a gamer at this point and when the train slows down and i don't want it, i just reset throttle up :D
     
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  40. daanloman#3930

    daanloman#3930 Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of DRA and the 422. has the 422 tutorial been fixed yet? I'd like to actually complete it's yourney. and also, does rain finally show up on the windhield again?
     
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    I mean, the fact that they slow down if you dont apply throttle is fine, that can be attributed to either incline or just the weight of the consist... but when there is like 0.5 descent or more, your weight should make the consist go gradually faster (at 0.7 or 1.0 the gain can be enough to force you to apply brakes not to overshoot speed limit), but with 442 it doesnt really happen, be it the 4-car version on Koln Aachen or 3-car version on Dresden Riesa... 423 on the other hand is quite sensitive to descents... havent checked 425 or 422 :)
     
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    Today I decided to fire up TSW5 for the first time in a few weeks. After updating TSW5, I selected a DB BR411 ICE service from Riesa to Dresden (departing at about 9:05 at Riesa). All went well until about 1km before Dresden Hbf, except for some stuttering, probably due to the scenery needing to cache again after the update, a freight train preceding me that travelled at >135 kph (but offered some PZB action which was nice) and strange signalling while approaching to Dresden Neustadt (speed reduction to 40 kph followed by a clear hp1 aspect and no diverging path from the 80 kph mainline).

    Then TSW crashed to desktop at about 1km before Dresden Hbf. I have never encountered crashes in TSW4 on my system.

    I'm running TSW on Windows 10, with an Intel i5 running at 4.5 GHz, an RTX 2080ti, 32 GB of DDR5 RAM and terabytes of free space on my SSD's. Most graphics settings are medium to high, as I know that my system can't be considered 'high end' anymore.

    Is this part of the known issues with TSW5?
     
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  43. Lamplight

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    More or less though I don't think it has ever been officially acknowledged. TSW5 does crash more often, I feel. I'm on PS5 and only had like 2 crashes or so before TSW5 in all my years (excluding the notorious MML crashes). It's not just FTF, which I have reported back on already, but I recently also had a crash on Vorarlberg. It would appear TSW5 is inherently less stable for some reason. Maybe it's the new map drawing resources?
     
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  44. daanloman#3930

    daanloman#3930 Well-Known Member

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    I personally am still on WIN10 and run with about the same specs although a 30 series card and DDR4 memory. i5 doesn't say much but I have a Ryzen 7 5800X. running the game off an M.2 drive on I think max settings but I'm unsure.

    I, apart from the TSW4 Voralberg crash on load, Haven't had any issues but some frame drops. even with mods the game has never crashed on me since TSW5. and I have all the dlc but a few american ones.
     
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    Could be a good route but " bugged" by bugs
    ;) especially with TSW5.

    I tried this route with a PS4 PRO with TSW4 and it seemed to have less blue screen crashes. Although the graphics looked slightly lesser quality than in TSW5. I did a freight run from Dresden to Röderau,I was surprised it allowed me to run upto 99mph line limit, with 2,,2000 ton stone train. When I got about 400 meters from Röderau, the brakes suddenly applied and I came to a halt short of the stop, so I lost points. What would have applied the brakes? , the brakes were fine for the rest of the run. I didn't set any safety systems up at the start of the run, so the cab was as I found it, apart from adjusting headlights.
     
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  46. daanloman#3930

    daanloman#3930 Well-Known Member

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    I just ran the service again because I saw this thread. even with snow and +3 because of that freight train I had no issues at all on the route.
     
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    I reran the service too and it ran fine indeed. I guess it had to do with not having driven on the route for a long time and everything needing to cache again. I still find it strange that I never had this kind of issues in the past.
     
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  48. rshifflet#2142

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    coming up to Dresden Mitte Track 5my fast freight is about 15-17 km out when we pass a green signal the post for which is bend a wall.
    Is it a distant signal or main signal ?
    Just silly.
     
  49. dal#7945

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    Are ever gonna fix the safety system on the br442. So we get properly scored for using them. Thanks
     
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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Since they have changed the scoring this its impossible to get platinum on some jobs.
     
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