Dovetail Indirect

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  1. Gilly

    Gilly Well-Known Member

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    Large single malt is it??
     
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    Some people can take a joke, others can not. I wasn't expecting this much backlash about this parody though but it is what it is. There was the meme of a crowd cheering at the announcement of the WCML, the Class 390 and ICE T as those were highly requested. There was laughter at the San Bernardino Line because it's not the most exciting route of the three new routes. There was a meme about the fact that many of the trains are recycled since DTG have a history of recycling trains. There was also the talk of DTG taking feedback seriously yet multiplayer which is a highly requested feature is not in the game and some other funny moments.

    Also the attacks by some over the leaks is a bit odd. It's not the OP's fault that the leaks got out. If something is leaked, it becomes public information. It's DTG's responsibility to ensure that things are not leaked.
     
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  3. Spikee1975

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    No drink for you I guess?

    Pre-Crime is not a thing (here yet. It is in China). NDA works by threatening with civil lawsuits and of course giving trust (which is never an insurance). You can only prevent it by not having players on the Beta Team, only employees which in that case would risk losing their jobs. Which still isn't a 100% safety.

    But yeah, let's not be party poopers. The leaks were funny, had no consequences at all, and it's funny someone spread the leaks because they like to see the forums explode, kinda "their thing now." Ha ha. Talking about trains, engineering or technical stuff's way too boring, it's for those old farts without a sense of humour.

    Cheers
     
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  4. Double Yellow

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    dtg_jan it’s time for you to pass judgment.
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  5. Juice#3053

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    So you are out because you cant handle a different opinion? If you dont get the humor or my point, thats on you. Also, Im not trying to defend or "save" anyone. Im just stating my point.
     
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  6. Myron

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    not too ridiculous if I may say so myself as I could've honestly easily prevented further stress/drama if I just kept the last few images including the one of the 390 for myself, so that's honestly on me I guess. However I think it was also sorta for the better so DTG would notice faster that someone farther back was purposefully sharing images of not-yet-released content and take action quicker. I honestly don't know how to feel about all of it, but I do still regret my choice either way.
     
  7. sam5166

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    I don't drink alcohol.

    TSW 5 was already announced without a problem and was well recieved. The leakes are unfortunate but were well past that. It is what it is. Lighten up a little.
     
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  8. trainsimplayer

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    Have you ever shared a meme?

    Anyway, I've downloaded this meme for future use. (5 Stars just appeared in the top corner of my screen and I can hear sirens.)
     
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  9. trainsimplayer

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    Myron posted the video to YouTube and it was shared to the forum by another user.

    The first person to mention Myron was myself.

    How is this thread them "plaguing the forum", exactly?
     
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  10. Gilly

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    I'll be the first to admit this is an attempt at humour, a poor one but one nonetheless.
    The problem lies with whom it's 'parodying'.
    None of the staff asked or consented to anything within it. Amusing as it may be, did dtg_jd for example, find it as amusing? Being ridiculed unnecessarily is not what they signed up for.
    It's their job for F sake!
    These are people, human beings. How would you feel if your family and friends saw your job being taken the piss out of and mocked?
    It's all well and good claiming 'its the internet' but there are humans behind this part of it and a little bit of contemplation and respect wouldn't go amiss.
     
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  11. sam5166

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    I'm guessing you never heard of comedians?

    Public figures constantly get memes and jokes thrown at them. It's not that serious
     
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  12. Spikee1975

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    You don't understand that a comedian playing a role, is depicting public personas, a price you have to pay when being prominent. Nobody can stop anyone exposing Meghan Markle's attention seeking victimhood game. She's a public person. Is JD?

    It's just about showing respect (everyone wants it, but not everyone is giving it) to the people whose footage you are using and whose forums you are using.
     
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  13. Gilly

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    Exactly Public figures....

    As for comedians, I refer the gentleman to my early thread posts...or perhaps my avatar!
     
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  14. sam5166

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    You are taking this way too seriously. Memes happen all the time. People make jokes about others without consent and often times, there isn't a problem. It's not that deep honestly.
     
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    If you are willing to put yourself out there on the internet this does just happen sometimes... Anyway what is the deal with some of yous getting offended for other people, again some people here need to calm down.
     
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  16. AVeryFatElf

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    At no point was anyone mocked or ridiculed. By your logic we should start banning comedians for poking fun at people or culture.

    Sheesh.
     
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    [Deleted; Irrelevant - DTGHarry]
     
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  18. SierraOscar95

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    The link is directly to Myrons YouTube account, which is a far bigger platform then this forum to broadcast from, and makes it fair game.

    Look I'll happily continue the debate, but inbox me personally as this is thread is spiraling round in circles now, and starting to repeat itself.
     
  19. FredElliott

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    But 2010 was only last year!
    ...Wait...
     
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  20. trainsimplayer

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    But Myron hasn't instigated it's place on the forums; the Original Post did.
     
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  21. Gilly

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    You see it that way, I see it another.
    Comedians are professional piss takers and our culture and public figures deserve ridicule at every opportunity, its justified!
    This wasn't.
    All I have to say is Joan is Awful
    Google it, maybe even watch it.
     
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  22. Spikee1975

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    No comment. Even saw a part of a TrainSimPlay stream reuploaded and uncommented.

    And then there's this. I really don't want to share the same platform with people thinking this is funny in any way. I mean how low can you go. Yes, as a railfan this offends me. "bruh lmao"? Sorry, no. This is more than infantile. How to shy away licensors.

    For my comment, you got another click. Be happy.

     
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  23. AVeryFatElf

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    huh?
     
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    This thread has been interesting to read. If there is one thing I learned though is that some people take things way too seriously. I guess it's hardly suprising that some are very sensitive these days.

    I saw the video in question and honestly don't get the backlash. It was a light hearted joke about how DTG recycle previous content, excitement about the wcml and the German route and the other new content. Not so much excitement about the San Bernardino Line though. There was also the Qui Gon-Jinn meme about the suspension which did take a while to arrive. There was even a person who was part of DTG direct who commented about the parody in a light hearted way so I really don't understand why some are overreacting to this. It was just a joke and it's not that serious.
     
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    Can I ask what is the problem with this? It's someone shooting a laser at a virtual train. I've seen videos of trains derailing in TSW. Trains going extremely fast in TSW and other lighthearted tsw memes. Maybe you should go outside once in a while and not take things too seriously
     
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    single example of more people clipping streams of popular streamers... I bet you wouldn't want to watch the whole stream to find the "funny moment" but instead be happy if someone clipped that and uploaded it seperately. and they still don't claim the clips as their own, and neither did I. even Matin was fine with me clipping his unfortunate signalling situation, otherwise he surely would've DMed me already and asked me to take it down, or not? ;)
     
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  27. Spikee1975

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    Do what you want, but deal with consequences. Be original for once.
     
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    The irony is that nobody was probably going to find or watch that video and now you've just given it airtime.
     
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  29. Spikee1975

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    The whole thread was giving that channel attention. I'm guilty yes.

    All that reactor beef on youtube is a "game", only extending the reach of the participants. Germans will know the KuchenTV/Shurjoka or AnniTheDuck/Mowky/Reved thing.
     
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    I think we all agree that thread kinda derailed and will be locked.
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    The people being joked about in the video are taking it as a joke, and its just you who seems to be getting more offended on their behalf than they are themselves.
     

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  32. Gilly

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    I'm posting this if it is then (please delete as appropriate Jan/JD/Jaime whoever sees it first)
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    I'm out. Probably in be in The Cooler for the next week chaps. Keep an eye on Barrett for me would you Squadron Leader......
     
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    I’m on my way to refill your stock so you can survive locked in for a week, just in case.
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    But if the people who were featured in the parody weren't even offended by it, then what are you so offended about? Are your "values" to get offended at a joke directed at someone who isn't even offended by said joke?
     
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  35. Spikee1975

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    Benefit of the doubt and the fact is was offered for a discussion. I would not like it if it was me. DTG can of course.
     
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    I do always say that good comedy lasts, and quite honestly I have near enough forgot the vast majority of that video nearly 24 hours later, and seeing as Moron didn't take my request in his stride I am not taking the time to remind myself of it. This thread however has me in stitches and there are some brilliant posts here which are very funny, then some which are total bullocks. I do love the weekends on this forum though and It's been bloody enjoyable reading through this whilst trying to figure out how to build an Ikea thing for the Mrs. Speaking of which, must get back to that!
     
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    *fixed it :D
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    So basically you and the other people complaining have no reason to be outraged at any of this then
     
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  39. Spikee1975

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    Self pity. Just think before acting, learn from the past is what I would advise.
     
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  40. I can definitely see your point of view and I also agree about the lack of consistency in approach. I can only surmise that it was a pattern that maybe got people riled, and leaking of proprietary information can in this case potentially hurt our hobby, although that is debatable as it certainly raised the profile. A part of me wondered if a little tactical leaking here and there might not be a bad thing.. by the way, I appreciate your post. Its coherent and invites understanding, avoids personal attack and certainly helps present your position well. Hopefully I generally do the same, unless Ive gone into full meltdown mode or am mischievously stirring the pot..
     
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    you seem to be quite the Shakespeare, even for people simply failing to embed a gif
     
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    According to some people on this thread fair use is considered illegal, interesting perspective. Luckily parody falls under fair use and therefore cannot be taken down for copyright as the content is transformative, I should know I've been using YouTube for over a decade.
    Now it's just turned into a Myron bashing thread, If only people who are moaning about Myron knew they could block users.
     
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  44. Ahhh mate, youre making me get the giggles again..
     
  45. Spikee1975

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    Now if you can throw punches like Myron you must also accept to get some back.... we're only joking, take it easy. It's just a parody...

    !
     
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    I don't think you stirred the pot at all. I can understand that there will be those that don't find it funny and there is nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, people will have a different sense of humor. All this outrage about this parody just doesn't make any sense though especially since the developers themselves actually found it rather funny. I think some just took this way too seriously which caused an unnecessary overreaction. Also the attacks on Myron hardly make any sense as well since he didn't even post this video on the forum. The OP of this thread did
     
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    Now that's parody!
     
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  48. Maybe what we need is a bit of....


     
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    Deflection at it's finest
     
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  50. Spikee1975

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    Gilly

    I just remember that Father Ted episode with the depressive priest they managed to cheer up. On his way home on the bus, Radiohead's "Exit Music" is played, and the face of that poor fella is priceless... (almost like one of the TSW passengers)

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    There's really only two musicians that can make me cry, Radiohead and David Gilmours' singing and storytelling guitar solos. "High Hopes" is immense.
     
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