The only thing I have fed this evening is the dog. Not sure why you bring assumptions up, as none were made in that post. Can you point out where they have said they have accurately recreated the real life timetable from 202x? I can't and usually when they have recreated a full timetable they plaster that line, or similar across the article. All I see are words like robust, which does not mean it has be done in full. Again all good and proper for you to list this information, which I have read multiple times, but I still see no numbers or acknowledgement of whether the timetable is a full one as per real life. You seem to, throughout all of this thread, come at what we are saying from the completely wrong angle so perhaps you should understand that we are trying to find out information and there is no need for your defensiveness of this, as surely it is in your interest to know this information too.
Sorry i mean what make that you worried about this thing? (Sorry im Dutch and not a native English person) If it is an reduced one with not 100% a real timetable but more a "near one" did you choose to not buy it? If its a very nice timetable with a lot of trains but not the 100% one is that a dealbraker and if it is can we do something about it? Maybe they have done it due to limitations by the game... The schedule on this line is extremely difficult what they already written in earlier communication. What i mean maybe its not their choice but more from limition reasons
Wikipedia says that there are 4 subclasses of the 350. Considering LNWR terminate at Tring, Bletchley, and Milton Keynes, a significant number of units will stay on the map. I can't imagine, even with someone like JoeTheFish handling portals, that they would be able to create the full timetable.
There we go! Thanks for add this! It would for me not a shock if thats the case! That area is so busy that you can expect something like that
Yeah I’d have expected they’d have to make at least 2 subclasses, and that these would be the /1 & /2 as they are the most numerous. However what’s more likely is we’ll see a fake fleet, or we should just consider that on the 50 mile stretch we’re getting, the /1 fleet has less miles to cover & therefore can make cover more services within it.
The fact that it is a very simple question asked in this thread and it has been avoided by DTG, which in the past has meant the answer is no. Potentially, yes. The only thing that will keep me interested in this WCCL route, whilst I wait for the actual WCML route. is the timetable being packed to the brim in real life and so if this is not the case, I must consider the point of me buying it. Perhaps they should have considered adding another subclass, as the focus of this route is the commuter services, not the expresses, so it is vital that these are then busy as they should be. If they have managed to get the BML timetable how that is, I highly doubt this one would be impossible, and if it is then perhaps they should have thought about this first, before deciding the focus of the route were the Southern end and its commuter services. As I say though, all this needs is a yay or nay so we know where abouts we are. I am happy to keep ticking over on BPO rather than WCCL until the WCML route drops later in the year.
Right, thank you for just saving me £40, I owe you a beer for warning me in advance. Cancelled my TSW5 pre-order and got a refund from XBOX. Just going to wait for WCML Preston - Carlisle and completely ignore the base game. Rivet Games can shove their gray floating Roblox houses.
To be fair, whenever Rivet work on stuff with DTG, they do a stellar job. Clearly DTG hold them to some sort of standard when it’s their own content on the line. No idea what goes on when Rivet make their own DLC’s though, probably management issues.
In real life the Tring services are limited-stop. Not sure what's going on here... Looking at the LNWR timetable I think you could squeeze all the services in with the 30 150/1 units. Also remember that with BML we got 377 units with the numbers of incorrect subclasses so that there were enough units.
I didn't realise we got incorrect unit numbers at all! I know on GWE they repeated numbers a lot, and I also know that we got some /1s which I understand to be nearly identical to the /4s, but I didn't think they had incorrect numbering. Besides, London Commuter has lots of portals, so a service to Southampton that disappears at Hove can reappear at East Croydon as an East Grinstead to Victoria service. The class 350s will only have the portal north of Milton Keynes. I don't have any experience with timetabling, but I am not sure the full LNWR timetable will be possible. More than happy to be proven wrong, and I am hopeful that you could squeeze all the services in as you say.
I did ask this for the livestream last week... But had no response to it, and asked again to which I got no response... Could of quite innocently been forgotten, but it does concern me.
Okay fair enough! Why you can not make any connections timetable wise is the reason is not how many trains are running arround more the amount of difference there. So every layer will cost way more than 10 times the same train. So BML is very simple with a few layers with a large amount of the same trains. I hope for you they will create the whole timetable but i will not put all the money on that I will not written here is its for me clear its impossible!
I'm not overly familiar with the usual formation of 350s as I'm a Southern Region man, but I'd assume that most trains would be formed of 8 car formations? Atleast the longer distance services... So, hypothetically if that was the case that would leave 15x 350/1s running in multiple to cover a vast timetable. It just doesn't sound right? There has got to be a an additional sub class number involved to bump up the timetable in a similar way to the 377/4s and 377/1s.
I was just saying that to someone elsewhere xD. Plus they'll have 350/1 trains for what are class 730/0 diagrams in real life. Nowhere near enough 350/1s to go round. WMT have 87 class 350 units, only 30 numbers will be available in game. The facts will come out in the stream.
They can simply spawn more of the things than exist in real life. It's not like that's a hard limit, you'll just see a few duplicate numbers.
Yeah I am curious how the system works in TSW... you typically don't see duplicate numbers when there are enough numbers to go around... so it must try to keep it within the limits... but on routes where they don't have enough numbers you see duplicates, a good example being Cajon Pass, DTG went with the ES44C4 which BNSF doesn't actually have all that many of, so if you look hard enough in some of the big yards you will see duplicates. I've also seen duplicate numbers when I have the white 375 layering onto SEHS. I remember once at Ashford seeing the a white and blue one with the same unit number parked next to each other but I think that issue may be caused by the fact that they are technically seperate locos in the game.
I wonder why they couldn't have included the /3s. I'm not sure if the whole subclass do, but looking on flickr at least some do carry the same /1 livery, the one modification needed is the removal of the third rail shoes. I could see why they are less likely to do the /2s, as they have the Ex-LM and a plain Grey LNWR livery, and maybe LNWR wouldn't want that. Maybe even chuck in the /4s, although there are only 10 examples IIRC. At the end of the day it's up to DTG though.
I'm sure most players wouldn't mind if the subclass differences were not there aslong as there were enough sub class numbers so duplicates did not appear. There would be no need to change the 350/1 model and DT could just make that clear from the start. From all the preview images I've seen the 350/1 is the only number sequence I've seen. Maybe from additional feed back, DT could retrospectively add more sub class numbers at a later date to enable no duplicates in the timetable.
