Ice-t Feels Too Clean.

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  1. Tomas9970

    Tomas9970 Well-Known Member

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    Hello. I stumbled upon the GamesCon24 showcase of the Frankfurt-Fulda route and noticed that the ICE-T has no signs of weathering on it and basically just looks like a toy train from the outside.
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    I feel like there should be at least a little bit of dirt added to the bottom as well as having these drops of mud going up the nose and around the windshield. Just like on the references that I quickly found.

    Also on a somewhat unrelated note, the headlights look way too dark compared to the real thing as they probably aren't supposed to be tinted.
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  2. Swisstrains

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    I think you’re right! If we compare it with the 114, it has way better weathering- although the ICE-T still looks awesome nevertheless!

    But maybe that will change until release since Lukas said the Flixtrain for example is still being heavily worked on, so I guess maybe in general the German route and trains still get improvements. I mean: The stream is still a few days away and I think it’s no coincidence that this routes is the last one to get a preview stream
     
  3. antwerpcentral

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    Agree that it looks way too clean at this moment.
     
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  4. Inkar

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    I prefer the train to be clean as new, but that is a matter of personal preference.

    The lights are not tinted. If you zoom the image you will see that there are many thin bars in front of the light. The resolution, anti-aliasing and the video compression of the stream are making it look like there is a tinted glass, but there isn't. At high resolution it will not look like that.
     
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  5. Fawx

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    Could be to do with Licensing. A lot of companies don't like their vehicles being shown in anything other than a perfect state.
     
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  6. Myron

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    the decals such as the ICE logo look a bit weird, but I think and hope its just an in-progress thing and finished when advanced access starts (which is probably pretty much also already the pre-release of the game), and the silver parts of the interior sliding doors seem a bit too reflecting, though it might be like that IRL too and I am just too used with the ones on the ICE 3 not reflecting that much.
     
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    I am pretty sure it's neither. The inside surfaces of the headlight holes are just darker colored than how it is on the real train, but if you do also look closer, those horizontal lines actually get thinned out even more with anti-aliasing, so it's rather just a coloring mistake.
     
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    Hopefully creator's club takes care of this. I have like 50 liveries installed where I just searched for "dirty" or "weathered" and sorted by popularity :)
    When you use the website version of CC you can subscribe to a lot more than ... what's the limit ingame again .. 20? ... things at the same time ;-)
     
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  9. antwerpcentral

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    Nice tip. I hope it also works for "a little bit dirty but not too much" as keywords :D
     
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  10. Myron

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    that's really just a terrible idea.
     
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  11. aeronautic237

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    I think weathering also has something to do with licencing. Companies want to look their best, so they may ask Dovetail Games to keep the trains squeaky clean.

    At least, that's what I remember from a TSW2 livestream. Some companies don't seem to care as much, though.
     
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  12. Omnicitywife

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    Why? It's easier to smudge up a clean train than cleaning up a dirty train, we already have a "Verkehrsrosa" 425 in the game that is a pain to look at.
     
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    is it easier trying to recreate all the decals on the ICE T with the livery designer and failing multiple aspects:
    - 100% accurate logos and positions of decals
    - high resolution of the livery
    - variety in numbering and Taufnamen (the city names above the windows of the end cars)

    it would be easier making a mod, or even easier to just hope if DTG adds a bit of dirt.
     
  14. noir

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    Why not making it dynamic like we know for ages from OMSI (or Simrail)?

    (I know, I just made up a key feature of TSW6, sorry.)
     
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    Thats not licencing!!. Most basic things which were there seen even in tsw2020 get lost because there is no quality control and consistency
     
  16. Omnicitywife

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    Mods aren't on consoles and as I've just said, a forced dirty version would make a clean version more or less impossible to replicate properly, as you've also just said, I think that was what you wanted to say, anyway...
     
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    I believe on this, it’s licensing. When they did livery comps you couldn’t use ICE trains.
     
  18. bakedpotatos.jm

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    I don't know his Iceberg album was pretty dirty.

    I know lately he's been clean in his lyrics but even go back to his Body Count days he was pretty dirty then.
     
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    Hey its Jim, welcome back from the bath house Jim
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