that's sony who makes the console why are you asking dtg anyway https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/
with all due respect, your attitude towards consoles is the opposite of what tsw is about. tsc has existed for decades for pc users, but tsw was made with the main aim of bringing realistic train simulation to consoles, so if you don’t like that i suggest you stick to tsc
I'm going to keep my XBOX Series S, and an extra £700 in my bank account. It isn't worth upgrading until next generation, in my opinion.
While its a fine console, it really was a poor decision by Microsoft to hobble the S as they did, as evidenced by numerous studios/publishers holding back or excluding XB in their releases
I suspect that TSW will handle it like moving from PS4 to PS4 Pro, I got slightly better frame rates and consistency. I'd expect nothing more from TSW on PS5 Pro.
In a lot of places I have pretty high frames on PS5, so I would expect any improvements in frames to come in the busier areas (stations, freight yards et al) without any specific changes to the core
Why is everyone on the offensive against the OP? It’s a simple and honest question. I’d like to see an enhanced version that takes full advantage of the new Pro specs. It’s just like the PS4 Pro all over again. Some games will be enhanced, some won’t. I should imagine TSW won’t invest their time until the new 10th Gen consoles get released though.
The PS Pro is average what you see on pc or maybe below.... In a PS5 Pro is a AMD RX6700xt equivalent build in and for TSW you need GPU power not a CPU or RAM upgrade. This card is in general for pc not strong enough to play on 4K
It wouldn't be that hard for DTG to release a PS5 Pro patch, all it would do would be increase settings to Ultra. It's not a silly question. It's a lot of money, although maybe a tradein might offset it a bit. I would expect a guarantee though that by purchasing such a beast there would be no more stutters and pauses in the gameplay.
With the greatest respect here. If Matt, the lead developer of Train Sim World, had a game freeze during the San Bernardino live stream last week on his high-end PC, what makes you think a £700 console with a regular PS5 CPU is ever going to run Train Sim World smoothly? I think you are hoping for something that no console will ever be able to achieve, and you may be better off investing in a gaming PC at that point.
I think the Bernardino preview showed us why we should never buy a PC for TSW. The quality shown on PC was unacceptable for console standards. PC users didn't seem to mind and said it looked good. If I bought a PC I could play San Bernardino like shown on the stream or I could just ditch the whole PC idea and just stick to a machine made specifically for gaming and play fun games like Astrobot or other PS5 console exclusives that just dance circles around TSW performance on PC. For me to ever to buy a PC for TSW they first need to show a route on PC that doesn't have the same shortcomings on PS5. It's not the PC or the console that can't manage the game. It's the developers that can't get the game to run smoothly on a PC or console. DTG first need to build a TSW version that does not wreck high end PC's during previews before a PC can be considered a viable alternative for consoles. This is never going to happen with TSW like it is now. TSW performs as bad on PC as it does on PS5 and a PS 5 Pro won't make it magically run smoother than on PC
i’m not trying to make this an argument, but it sounds like you can’t accept the truth. once you have, let me know as that’ll be one more person that no longer dislikes console players for playing a game that was designed for them
The elephant in the room here, is that the PS5 Pro is digital only. So if you want a disc drive, you are going to be paying over £800.... Sony are even charging £25 for the plastic stand, instead of bundling it with the console. For any advantages that the PS5 Pro might have, and I'm struggling to see anything really worth the price tag, you can buy a regular PS5 disc-based console for £450, and not be forced to buy digital games from the Sony online store... Which is the most expensive storefront right now. Is the extra £350 really worth it?
It will all depend on the PS5 exclusives. If you play mostly multiplatform games it ain't worth the money. But the roadmap of upcoming exclusives is rather empty so I'm expecting a lot of Pro Enhanced versions but not new games specifically made for PS5 Pro. A lot of new games would make me consider picking one up when prices go down.
Where did this claim come from? I run TSW in 4k with 60fps with little few stutters. Stutters are never gone away... Not a PS Xbox or PC. And for the record the GPU in a PS5 is already 6 years old.... Its the same like a Nvidia RTX2080
This claim comes from me. Who cares how old the GPU is? If the game is not optimised it's just worth poo. I also play TSW 4 in 4K with few stutters. I've never seen it perform so bad as San Bernardino did on PC. Just play some PS5 exclusives on a standard PS5 and be amazed at what a 6 year old GPU still an do. Every PS5 exclusive looks better than TSW on any hardware. TSW does not use the PS5 to it's fullest. Best example is the loading times. TSW is like a relic of the olden days on PS5 so why on earth would we need a PC for what is already outdated on PS5?
Why you take San Bernardio as a good example? Better is to test it by y'oure self... DTGs stream quality is so bad that i never take quality reference from that kind of sources. And on pc you can change the engine.ini what a big game changer is therms of quality
Because my experience does not differ from the streams. Streams don't make the tracks and ballast pop in. If the developer can't show it smoothly, don't expect it to run smoothly on any other PC. If you have to tweak a game to make it run good it means the dev's make you pay to do their work.
I do agree on one hand, on the other hand it’s not uncommon to need to play with config files in software. Take ETS/ATS for example, there are a couple of useful lines in their config files to help take advantage of higher end hardware. Some things are just set to an underwhelming default because despite the way most people on here seem to think, the vast majority of gamers are on lower end specs. Of course there are other things which are just missed for no good reason. Broadly speaking though, DTG does have a long way to go to improve optimisation & understanding their tool set. Perhaps more time invested in that, as opposed to gimmicks would be more pleasing to some when DTG announce a new iteration of TSW.
Fine if you think thats the true. I have seen different so its fine if you have a different approach. But for me i dont let me in with the next discussion that will run in endless points whats results in nothing. No hate to you but i have seen enough here on the forums and its time by time bizar what some people discuss and what arguments are bring in.
The first part is what i mean... TSW can do much more that we see on that streams. This kind of changes make a big difference so thats the reason why i play on pc. Its a game changer this kind of options you can tweak.
It's not a game changer. It's just having to do what console users don't have to do. These tweaks should be done by DTG. Every Playstation is the same that's why games made for consoles look so amazing on older hardware. They are made for one specific configuration. With the Pro we get now a second spec for gen 9. Contrary to PC that has a gazillion configurations to take in account.
Thats absolute true! I never understand why DTG ticks the TOD4 and never do anything to tweak. But for now its a gamechanger on pc.... If its included on consoles than its a different talking but thats not the case at this point.
I’ve played TSW4 on game pass recently and with all due respects there is minimal difference between the PC and console version (PS5). As mentioned by antwerpcentral consoles are already optimised which gives you best possible experience. PC and console still suffer with the same technical issues/fps drops in the same parts of the routes. I tested all the usual culprits, BML-Victoria, LIRR-Jamaica etc. I couldn’t even see a huge difference in fidelity either. Most of my settings were on Ultra. The only thing I will say about playing on PC is you do have a more stable 60fps than console and access to mods. Apart from that, there’s not much to be ecstatic about.
It’s worth remembering that when DTG first did a PS5 build, they didn’t read enough of the dev manual to realise they couldn’t just blast 300GB+ of DLC onto the console. We’re talking about TSW here, there isn’t even a standard development process for content as whole, it gets even more convoluted when you see how other TSW devs use the engine. The best you can hope for here is that the Pro will have enough raw power increases to make improvements on its own, as it’s very, very unlikely DTG would ever make a tailored build. They didn’t do it with the OneX, they didnt do it with the PS4 Pro & even with the series X, they have a build that’s scaled back so the Series S can run it. I think the best we can hope for (and even that is unlikely), is that DTG will come up with a standardised way for every developer to use unreal, then sharing between themselves the positives & negatives that exist. Only from there will we start to see TSW as a whole actually deliver on its potential.
What card do you have on your pc? Otherwise this claim is nothing worth... I have a gpu thats nearly double the price of a PS5.....
I personally think that the time may soon come when DTG will have to give up making the game for the PS4/XBOX equivalent. Perhaps TSW6 which I’m sure will come along. I don’t know if the game is being kept back as a result but not sure now how many people will still play the game on PS4/Pro with gen 9 consoles now established as well as gen8 users not getting the full TSW experience.
I think the overall playstation player base is around 50/50 with most purchases being made on PS5 if I remember correctly from an article on the state of Playstation game sales. I guess with the Pro coming up we gonna see a huge uptick in PS5 owners versus PS4 owners once prices go way down for the base PS5. That will make them consider ditching gen 8
I'm sad to say they've made few, if any, enhancements for any platform in nearly 8 years of TSW, so I wouldn't hold your breath.
Changed my mind anyway on the PS5 Pro, hope it crashes and burns Sony with that ridiculous pricing. All Sony is doing is pushing people to PC. Which is something I have considered, but owning all DLC on playstation, theres no way I'm going to invest thousands in the DLC on PC now. Pretty much trapped onto console, but overall I have been pretty happy with the PS5, there have been many games which have impressed me, especially their 1st party ones.
Who even buys disc based games anymore tbh? It’s such a non issue to me, I buy all digital and DLC is all digital anyway. The idea of getting up to swap a disc whenever I want to play a different game is so 1997. And it’s not like it’s digital “only” it’s just digital by default, they make the add on disc drive for the people that must have discs.
Oh. I've been all-digital for years too. My point is that console manufactures always used to say "the console is priced higher because we have to include the disc drive", but now they are removing components and still charging more for less. Sure, the PS5 Pro has a bigger SSD (even if only 1.7TB of that 2TB will be usable), and they overclocked the CPU a little, but it doesn't justify charging £700 + £80 for the separate disc drive, when the regular disc-based PS5 is £450. I remember the days when consoles got cheaper years after release (could get a SEGA Saturn for £79.99 when it near end of life), but now prices only go up as the console gets older. Wouldn't be surprised if the PlayStation 6 launches at £800 - £900 the way things are going, and that will probably be an all-digital console too.
When the PS6 arrives we will have become so much richer again. I remember thinking the PS4 was rather expensive when it launched
