I see 3 72 stock and one 710 during the rush period. I think the aws alert was for the speed reduction, could be wrong though.
Yes it would be nice if you could take a payment. It wouldn't even be as complex as omsi in this cashless society. What would add to the emersion, is a couple of gold caps waiting at the next station. For the non payers that is.
Nowhere near - a full 72 stock timetable for the overground portion of the route would have at least 300 playable services. The BKL stock timetable is similar to Rivet's 1938 stock timetable (in fact I think it may be based on it), where there are sometimes gaps of 45 minutes between services (on a route where there should be 8tph in each direction between Queen's Park and Stonebridge Park). The Lioness line is no better, with sometimes up to 90 minute gaps between services. EDIT: Oh my god some of the services are literally just the shunts at Harrow. So actually the full BKL timetable should be more like 600 services if they're being split like that.
I was fortunate enough to be driving in heavy rain. So I didn't notice the tear in the fabric of spacetime.
I'm going to play it safe and pick up the free package next Tuesday. WCML was the main attraction for me to get back into TSW, but I think it needs more polishing before I can justify opening my wallet. Amusingly enough, a friend gifted me ECML today because they got my birthday wrong by 2 months and thought it was today So I got something to chew on for a while along with the Paddington-Reading remaster when that comes out.
Its the Lockdown edition.. everyone is working from home hence no passengers and reduced timetables. Its a feature really. And what the hell is going on with that sky? Is it a platform issue or is it cross platform? Starting to feel a lot better about holding off on this. If theyd fixed the floating cars I'd have probably bought in for the San Bernadino route. But they didnt, so I havent.
Not purchased yet. I've seen plenty of reports of crashes but quite a few don't state what platform they're on. I'm on PS5. Are the crashes occurring on PS5? Thanks
Well I can honestly say from most of what I've seen and heard that I'm glad I didn't stump up for this and am waiting for the free update instead. I will wait for the beta testers that paid for the privilege to point out all the many problems, especially the train strike version that has seemingly released instead of rush hour, with half the 350 8 car units seeming to join the action, and then I'll buy it if and when it's finished.
It's there for me on the WCML.All tunnels and a few fly overs. Running Creative AE5 with 5.1 speakers plugged in to it. Try updating drivers for motherboard and GPU, soundcard.
I certainly had reverb in Kensal Green and Primrose Hill Tunnels and under all the bridges that warranted it.
Ah that's good Intel. Thanks Dean and Vern. I haven't gotten it yet but that was going to be a major downer if it had been missing. I'm glad that's not the case. Thanks for the clarification. I've edited my original post of dismay with that information.
Also a small error I've noticed, I was on the slow line and being overtaken by another 350 on the fast line going North, still displaying London Euston as its destination.
It's extremely loud in proper tunnels! Had the Mrs fly off the settee. The route is busier than I expected from the stream ,I counted thirty one moving a.i in thirty minutes.
this is EXACTLY what Rivet did with their Fife Circle timetable.. it was limited in number to begin with but then you look deeper and see so many shunt services, meaning there are even less mainline services
I get the impression atleast with the 350 it was developed by Rivet with the exception of the sounds. The cab air-conditioning doesn't work at all, where as with The DTG 380 it works absolutely fine. (I've already given it a review in my previous post from last night). Another tell tell sign is how the cab windows open on a 0% - 100% measurement, where as DTG stuff is usually just open or closed!
Are the shunts even needed? The original timetable does not have them. Guess this is further proof that Froggy Studios made the timetable.
what exactly does "quality low" mean? I assume that's the settings your playing on, because that's not constructive feedback.
All the valid negative feed back is available to read from yesterday onwards. It definitely is a lower quality route and not upto TSW4 standards let alone TSW5. As I mentioned in my own review in this thread this feels like a TSW2 route...
The shunts are definitely needed for the 72 Tube stock, it's how they swap platforms at Harrow & Wieldstone and at Queen's Park.. The original (2021) timetable does have them, they are just part of the preceding or following services (correct practice).
I have the same feeling, there even the collectible item “Route Map” is made to look like it's from the TSW 2 era. Compare it to the map on Frankfurt.
But you don't even own the route, you haven't even played it, you wrote it off as soon as Rivet's name was mentioned. It looks nothing like a TSW2 route, the station assets are excellent, the lineside foliage and clutter is as good as any, and the gameplay variety is good. Apart from a few minor bugs that will be cleaned up in a patch, and the talked about potential to fill out the timetable a bit more it's a solid route. Maybe you would have a different opinion if you played it?
As there are two feedback threads I thought it best to add my comments on both. WCML - It's pretty good, there are bugs but I've not noticed any that haven't been mentioned. My only plea to DTG JD & DTG Matt is that we get a fuller LO Timetable. I appreciate a 15 min headway with Bakerloo trains in between may really impact performance, but even a frequency of every 30 mins would improve immersion and give us more services to play with.
Your sarcasm aside, TSW absolutely should have a beta branch. ATS/ETS2 do it and i think it works really well. If you want to get a preview of the newest version, you can opt-in, and if not you can stay on the public branch.
Ok, as someone that has played it, and opened it up in the editor. The Station assets are ok in the new sections, but the signage is awful, it's using the default UE font. The old Bakerloo stations haven't been touched at all. Stop markers are missing, clutter is missing and some platforms have the PIS linked to the wrong platforms. Line side foliage and clutter is the worst of any route released in the last year, it's even worse than Fife. 3D grass is missing in large areas, instead relying on a flat 2d texture. The landscape materials are also configured wrong and shine in the sun like they are made of glass/reflective material. I'm not going to start on the timetable. The Bakerloo section (40% of the map) literally is the TSW2 route, it's been updated with some improved lighting and that is it. SO yes it does look like a TSW2 route in part.
The whole thing just screams laziness. Absolutely zero passion in making a great route. It’s like everything was just bare bones to get it out the door. I won’t accept being told anything differently. It clearly needs a lot more work than just an enhanced, accurate timetable.
I think he's more pointing out that the simple mention of Rivet led people to automatically conclude the route would be a complete write-off, when they've only seen previews of the route.
I think if D I think if DTG released a paid beta version of TSW and advertised it as that, so there is no problem with getting the version back as players own it. DTG could get the help of members on forums and the community to troubleshoot the game, I would say they would do a fantastic job making the game great. Then by official release the game would be bulletproof.
For those who want it, I’ve done a look into the timetable for the WCML to try summarise everything into feedback specifically for the timetable, if anyone has anything to add here’s the link https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/so-just-how-bad-is-the-wcml-timetable.84677/
And? Is this not a reasonable thing to presume? Rivet have been around making TSW DLC for years now with no signs of improvement at all, they continue to release unfinished trash with no improvements post-release, they've had their chance.
I think you'll find I do own it if you have seen my review, and it's not just some minor errors. There's room for errors in any add on, but the level of them on the WCML is quite bad to say the least.
So the 64 million dollar question is this: Shall I buy the deluxe edition now, and hope the WCMLS is fixed properly, and enjoy the other routes, or not bother? Haven't played the game yet, seen a lot of videos, varying wildly in their praise/criticism. On PS5 so no layers apparently until next week?
I think overall TSW5 is moving in the right direction based on what i've played on Series X so far. Finally got everything downloaded on Steam so wel'll see how performance and everything holds up with all layers. My biggest feedback so far is that WCMLS has the potential to be one of the best UK routes IF DTG commit to fixing the timetable, bringing the Bakerloo section up to TSW5 standard, and making another scenery pass (it's not awful IMO but compared to SBD the station and trackside detail is lacking). All the pieces are there, they just need to bring it all together more convincingly for it to truly be a flagship route IMO. Will DTG step up and do the right thing?
But it's been said that developers other than Rivet also had a hand in developing the WCML, so why the blame solely on them?
This is only a presumption but I've a feeling Rivet is responsible for the entire infrastructure of the WCML from the way the whole route has been built and including the 350. I could be proven wrong yet, but the 390 does feel like the exception as the build quality and physics are really nice.
I'm surprised many more people don't kick off about the UK speed signs as well. The font they use is terrible. We've only been waiting 6 or so years for a decent realistic set. The German routes have a realistic set, why not UK?
Tbh and I count myself as a railway enthusiast, but I probably wouldn't tell the difference unless it was pointed out to me.
