Route West Coast Main Line: London Euston - Milton Keynes - Feedback

Notice the transformer hum sound disappears after a short time on the 350 . So when you stop the cab is completely silent .

 

Was driving the 710 on the DC line and noticed that the textures went funny also it happened again arriving into Euston whilst driving a 350. I would post a screenshot of it but it said the file size was to big

 

1: The freight runs with the Class 66 heading south from Milton Keynes end up in seeing ZERO pendolinos until a good 20 minutes into the trip, its almost like they all disappear into a portal south of Bletchley!

2: whoever timetabled the class 66 services, shame on you, copy and paste 30 times, lazy and sloppy.

 

I can't complete any runs into Euston, due to "out of video memory" errors. Really takes me out of the experience.

I play on Xbox series x if that is helpful.

 

I haven’t had that issue so far and I’m a Series X player

 

I will just copy part of my negative stream review for WCML, so many issues to repeat:

This route (as part of the base TSW5 yearly release) is currently one of the worst routes I have seen produced so far for TSW next to some of Rivets early routes (I get a major Rivet quality feeling from this route which has been confirmed by DTG that they did contribute to this route build).

The route itself is full of issues and bugs at release such as:
> Poor lighting and shadows, especially in and around stations and tunnels (light baking related I assume), and poor night lighting.
> Glowing and floating objects including a full forest in the sky for me (think a ini edit issue).
> The shiny landscape returns (materials problem).
> A major lack of and inconsistent detail (especially on the section clearly just copy pasted from Bakerloo).
> A very underwhelming timetable (90 min wait for a LU train?!?!) and a lack of passengers on most of the platform!
> Missing off-world PIS destinations and general PIS issues.
> Intermittently Getting stuck in the roof of my train when stand up from the seat (Almost game breaking for me)
The list is huge and this is only just a small snippet of what I can remember/stand out.

Ok lets try say something a little more positive (its difficult), the only decent things here are the locomotives themselves which a nicely detailed although with the usual problems such as light baking, lack of passenger compartment detail, mediocre sounds (use a sound mod you wont regret it!). But honestly the 390 should have been including in the base route without being an additional purchase. But the variety of stock on the route is nice (just wish this was utilised more with a better timetable!)

As a major route as well as a highly requesting one, I expected far more than what this has launched as, which is clearly a rushed product. I really hope some time and resources are put into fixing this route

 

Class 350/1 service 2Y09.

All going well until approaching Milton Keynes Station and a Red Signal when I got an AWS forced brake application. AWS alarm did not sound.

 

Headlights don't seem to show when in outside cam but when in tunnels headlights show up

 

I had the same, it was a TPWS activation. I’m going to check my speed next time, as that is what might have tripped the TPWS grids.

 

Also had this didn’t think I was going that fast.

 

I was only going slow at the time and I was slowing further for the red signal/station stop. The pop up help aide said AWS had triggered.

 

Just completed a few of the 350 scenarios and wow. Whoever set them up didn’t add any AI, passengers or even weather changes. The line is completely devoid of any AI trains while driving.

 

As dead the Dodo one might say. It is pretty desolate. The entire timetable needs to be redone. The current one is a far cry from what it should be.

 

Don’t think this has been mentioned but in ps4 when starting the carriage collected scenario you the to set up the class 377/2 but before you start to move you’re front 2 wheels come of and you train gets stuck on them and the scenario it is not completable. I have tried everything I can to stop it from doing this but it always happens although before it was a 350 and that worked so dovetail have broken something without telling us again.

 

Yes, that's my experience too, also with the 390. Particularly noticeable is the absence of dc line services and I recall only one moving and one stationary Bakerloo trains in total so far. Is the Underground on strike again?

 

Can't tell you if its prototypical or not, but on the 350, the Lamp test button (on the back wall) illuminates both AC/DC buttons but they do not go out after releasing the test button.

 

PC Player - Steam

when your a mouse and you need to contact the signaller

 

Service 1Y11 has the PIS set up wrong. The PIS is in reverse order. On the train heading towards Milton Keynes, it says Euston and also on the Platform PIS it lists the stations in the order from Milton Keynes to Euston instead of Euston to Milton Keynes. (Steam- checked with mods removed)

 

Just had my 1st crash on the PS5 I'm afraid.
Was involving the pendolino as soon as I stopped in Euston to complete the scenario the game crashed and went back to PS5 home screen.

Error report completed. Scenario in question was "Watford Bypass"

 

Class 350 Saloon Light Issue (When Controlled by AI)
Service: 2K50

Even at night, the saloon lights in the Class 350 trains controlled by AI are not turned on.

Right after departing from Milton Keynes station, I observed another Class 350 passing by on the adjacent track with its saloon lights off.

Upon arriving at the next station, Bletchley, I noticed another Class 350 train arriving on the adjacent track, also with its saloon lights off.

Based on my observations, it seems that the saloon lights in Class 350 trains controlled by AI are never on, regardless of whether it's day or night.

1972 Tube Stock Passenger and Wiper Issues
While operating the 1972 Tube Stock on Head code 2A31, which starts from a pocket track or turnback siding, I noticed that the carriages are fully packed with passengers even before departing.

After opening the doors at the starting station, Queen's Park, and waiting for a while, another Tube Stock arrives on the opposite track. A few seconds later, both trains' carriages are completely empty, with no passengers to be seen.

Additionally, when the Tube Stock is controlled by AI, the wipers do not function on rainy days.

 

The DB class 66 has extremely dim headlights and marker lights, compared to the other 66's in game.

 

So I’ve just done the scenario where you take the 12 car Class 350 to MKC and passed 1 AI train. I presume the reason for this is that the consoles just can’t handle anything resembling a proper timetable but DTG needs to come clean on this. We need and deserve an explanation. The problem with a route like this is that there is so much potential and none of it is being realised. You’ve got the Willesden Relief Lines, you’ve got various crossovers you could have stuff routed across.

I am fortunate in that I had some credit in Microsoft store and could afford to buy this and find it a bit underwhelming. But there are some of you out there who can’t just spend £60 or whatever and justify it on something that is just below par like this is.

So, DTG, I know you guys are here and reading because you have said as much. Please just provide an honest response, give us all a timescale for the fixes and an explanation of what has gone wrong. Be honest with us all abs we won’t be so inclined to think that you think we’re all mugs.

 

Just as update on this, I was going 21mph and didn’t get a TPWS activation this time. So it’s related somehow related to the 25 mph PSR over the pointwork.

 

Just drove quite a good service , the 0802 Euston to Tring in a 350 . A reasonably good amount of AI trains , this is on PC .

 

Agreed. With weather set to light clouds on an autumn day, Euston is near perfect at this time.

 

Why is it always about the timetable ? Class 710 Service #2D68 Euston-Watford Jct.
I didn't even knew it was possible to do something before but at the same time after another thing... Timetravel maybe ?

 

Question on the Azuma, in front of you, middle of the consol is a blue light that is captioned "Speed Supervised". What is this and does it do anything in the sim. I noticed it went out as I approached close to Euston.

 

It's called TASS, and it's part of the tilt system on the Pendolino. I'll have to Google what is stands for but it prevents you from exceeding the speed limit. It's only fitted on certain parts of the line, so it won't enable for a couple of miles outside Euston. (The location is accurate according to the Sectional Appendix).
Also, it's not fitted on the slow lines, so if you drive a late night service that's scheduled to take the slow lines then it shouldn't enable at all.

 

Floating curb of some kind in the 4 foot just before cheddington platform 1 in the direction of Milton Keynes. 9s44 PS5

 

Same service, same 1.3 miles before MKS

 

TASS - Tilt Authorisation and Speed Supervision.
This system enables the tilt to operate and allows for a higher speed through curves than a non-tilting train.
The system uses electronic markers on the track to determine when the higher speed limit applies.

 

I noted, when watching Don Coffe's latest video, the yellow speed boards for the tilt trains.

 

Yes, EPS (Enhanced Permitted Speed) boards. These are also present within TSW5 version of WCML South.

 

On the class 350 We have Keep turning on the Passengers lights on Is there a way of it coming on automatic

 

Midnight is also facing the same issue - https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/wcml-south-feedback.84452/page-34

 

I keep flagging this as a major immersion breaker but haven't heard about a patch. The saloon lights are off on AI 350s too.

 

After the 26/9 update DTG Alex

PC Player - Steam. Just south of Milton Keynes, and there's still airborne trees........

 

Same issue on series S, always at Euston.

 

It sometimes happens when you either stop or fly through Watford junction, had that with the pendo when I was doing the Manchester to Euston service where it crashed when I went through Watford junction

 

Seems to be some sort of WCML related update on Xbox S this evening. Something has just pushed through anyway.

 

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/tsw5-game-update-26th-september.85552/

 

Service : 2D49 - 1827 Euston - Watford Junction
Unit: 710
Weather: Custom, Rain Storm x 2 light rain x1 , 26th September
Platform: PC/Steam

Issue: On 3 occasions Unreal crashes to desktop on entering South Hampstead platform.

2 times in Rain storm weather and 1 time in light rain.

Mods Installed: Tsw 5 Enhancement | Lighting & Graphic Ep V1.01 and Londonmidland - Signal enhancement pack.

 

Morning all
Could we have a Class 350 feedback thread please,it's a cracking emu.
Things like clipping sound whilst coasting,AC to DC changeover, TMS screen, and the suspension when it's ready,etc ,could be discussed and any issues highlighted for Dovetail.
Thank you.

 

I know it's irritating to change your GPU driver and the areas you've mentioned do cause the stutters on my system,Especially Watford and past Wembley yard, threatening to crash stutters,all layers left in.
Not had any issues with weather, I'm on medium for effects, volumetric on.
Did run a custom fog and rain 710 timetable;a few minor stutters.
A new driver could be worth a try, rather than mod removal.
The new 2D map might be an issue with mods installed, seems to be a problem with the consoles,do you leave it zoomed in as default or zoomed out after using it?
Driver last updated,
I tried three , the first August one was the one I stuck with . Nvidia..not 560.81; this one caused more stutters.I know everyone gets different milage depending on components in your system .
I don't use any mods Shaun,I do understand the appeal though.

 

shame they still haven’t fixed the random crashing out problem really. The game is unplayable in its current state. Every time I run a service it will crash randomly with a blank screen and close the game.
Imagine if this happened with a game like C.O.D?

 

Speed set still broken 377/2. 2M01 set it to 100, drive, activate, train slows despite being fat below 100 (60 for example)

 

Well, I thought that the speed set procedure in the 377 was approach the speed you want in throttle notch 4 and when close, like 1 -2 mph, to that speed press speed set button. That is what works for me.

 

That's right for the 390, but for the 377 I'm using the same steps that have always worked on ECW - but no joy on the WCML variant.

 

Is anyone else checking the Train Sim Community website for timetable and scenery patches on a near hourly basis or is it just me?
Can't bring myself to drive it in the state it's in. Getting stuck in the cab roof of the 350 is seriously hindering my ability to swap ends.

 

More hindering than being crashed out of the game almost every run? I literally can’t drive it in its current state!