I have been driving on San Bernadino line but every time I try doing freight it ends up sending across points without showing a drop in speed limit as the speed limits do not display on the HUD. Why are there no shown speed limits for freight on the HUD?
Not just freight, the scenario where you have to take a train from San Bernadino to rescue a failed service also has the same issue, including a 10 MPH crossover taken with no warning at all.
Actually they do. If it's a conditional reduction such as for a crossover or diverging, that's pretty much what they're there for. Same basic idea as German Zs3, except coded in colored lights.
Where? There is no theatre box giving you the route speed limits like on some German routes, they only give you the aspect for the route like an old semaphore signal gantry.
Those lights are a code which indicates the permissible speed upcoming. Here are the Metrolink signals: https://signals.jovet.net/rules/SCRRA Signal Rules.pdf
That is connecting a 404 but with a different background so it is connecting to something but declining acess. How are you supposed to get the code from the signal? As far as I can tell, it tells you the single yellow aspect is for ahead on the top (same with semaphores) or to the diverging on the bottom there is nothing saying any speed change for that unless you automatically assume every diverging route is 10 which the second one I encountered was. The information when I have been trying to find about rail equipment in the US seems to be very limited. I get the idea it is like it is just not to be discussed since got a hostile response after asking online about the inductor/third valve system on EMD 567/645/710/1010.
The linked worked fine for me.. https://www.blet20.org/members/blocktraining/study_guides/metrolink_signals.pdf Above is another link for metrolink signaling and what solicitr stated is correct, The signals do portray speed information. U.S. signaling is up to the railroad company themselves… used to be a real variety back in the Early 1900s. Later on, there has been more conformity on the signals especially on the main lines… it is another story on the branch lines.
i haven’t studied the metrolink in detail, but for many roads in the U.S. they have a standard speed for turnouts and slips that the engineer (driver in UK parlance) knows when they sign for the route. I know the often over used response is Route Knowledge, i have not driven the SB route extensively and there may very well be missing signage, I was just pointing out the U.S. signaling does indicate speed as well as block occupation unlike UK signaling that is only block occupancy.
That question is like asking why is it raining in China and not Africa, the answer is it's just like that. Should it be changed, most probably, will it be changed, maybe possibly, but the best thing to take away from this is you have just gained some route knowledge so if you are sent over that set of points or junction again you know what the speed limit is and drive accordingly.......
Point taken about the speed signalling, but on the Rescue at the Ranch or whatever the scenario was called, none of the main line speed changes appeared on the RH HUD either. However, taking a parallel with the German routes, although TSW (incorrectly) doesn’t enforce the speed change at the home signal, it does pick up and display on the HUD where it registers the speed on the actual track changing at the junction or crossover. So it should still be detecting and displaying the upcoming speed changes on SBD. And if DTG are going down the road of authentic speed signalling, then maybe instead of having the tutorial on the bloody stupid Training Centre they should actually put it on the route itself, do a run which uses a few crossovers and passing loops, then a link to the manual. Oh, hang on, what’s a manual in TSW. And as noted, wide variation in the speed, main line turnouts off the main were 30 or 45 MPH, then you got the crossover on the double track section which was 15 MPH. Add to that the visibility of the signal heads isn’t that great until you’re right on top of them. This route rapidly becoming “Strike Two” (after WCML Strike One) of the TSW5 experience.
TSW only displays permanent speed limits in the HUD. Variable limits, such as German ZS3 and LZB limits, are not handled.
Which means if the speed through the infrastructure is 15 MPH or 45 MPH it should show on the HUD. As already discussed, TSW does not enforce speeds displayed at signals unlike TSC.
The speed limits show for Cajon pass, they show for Metrolink Antelope line, they also show for San Bernadino passenger services, they do not show for San Bernadino freight. It is not to do with San Bernadino line being in a different country. Also I doubt I will be able to access route learning data as technical information is secret.
So the bottom line is scenarios like this one "Rescue At The Ranch" and the freight runs will be Oh Well Just Figure it out, I did look through the PDF file and even in there it does not show Speed limit indications along with the Signal lights, Rescue At The Ranch Spoiler Using CTRL + 4 will cycle the speed limit and indications at the top right HUD element along with the next signal be it green/red/yellow. The track monitor is useless at this point in these Freight and Passenger scenarios with San Bernadino, if I understand it correctly. Spoiler And at the same time looking at the PDF it is still a bit off compared how the Rescue scenario and any others that don't have the proper trackside signage, just a few items from the PDF that indicate one thing but I'm seeing another in the Scenario. Spoiler
The speed limits are shown for every other route in the HUD, they are missing on freight services on this route.
