PlayStation Playstation 5 Pro

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  1. docsnyder1911

    docsnyder1911 Well-Known Member

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    Routes like Kinzigtalbahn and West Coast Mainline have no problem with the graphics. But they have a problem with memory, because of big tracks, the amount of different trains and so on. And in that case a bigger CPU will help only. Not the bigger GPU from the PS5 Pro. Then what do I have from a console I paid 900 EUR for, and I still have the gamecrashs further. For having a bit better graphics on West Somerset?
     
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  2. Dinger75

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    Not sure that you are on the right page here. For a start GPU will certainly help at stations because of all of the trains on screen around because of the rendering cost

    But most of your argument seems to be around track and the varied amount of trains which you rightly point to being a memory issue. However, you then state only a CPU will help out here. Nope, more RAM of a better quality will only help here.

    The Pro has RAM that is close to 30% faster than the base PS5 and its been confirmed from DF that it has around 1.2GB more RAM available to games. How exactly it does this is currently unknown but the most likely scenario is it also has slower RAM on the board and is moving background apps to that memory away from the main pool of RAM
     
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  3. docsnyder1911

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    Simple technical answer. If you don't have enough memory, it brings you nothing if that available memory is a bit faster.

    It's like with cars. Even if your engine is reacting faster a bi, you can't beat the engine with much more performance.
     
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  4. Dinger75

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    Sorry but that is simply not correct.

    If you had a PC and you changed just the memory with only a speed increase, you will get higher fps and if you benchmarked both your cpu and gpu, your score would be higher.

    Now if you were gunning for a higher resolution, RAM speed would certainly have diminishing returns. However, isn't the whole point of PSSR and DLSS is for the image quality to increase even though its at a lower base resolution.

    So even if we talk about just the CPU which is the area of the Pro with the least improvements, faster RAM alone will help with CPU limited games
     
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    If we consider TSW a CPU-intensive game, then RAM speed may help, but of course the CPU is the exact same as the base PS5. If we consider TSW a GPU-intensive game, then RAM speed will make little difference. The PS5 Pro’s biggest benefits are its GPU and the PSSR upscaling. TSW won’t benefit from the latter, but given the GPU it should give similar performance to a decent four or five year old PC.
     
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  6. docsnyder1911

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    To have the experience like a 4 or 5 year old PC 900 EUR is much to expensive.

    That's why the PS5 Pro will be niche product like the PS4Pro.

    The PS4 Pro sales figures were 11 % of that from the PS4 only.

    And in TSW you had very little from the PS4 pro. You don't have Gen9 layers and Gen9 graphics. But you can say: Wow the graphics look 30 % better compared with Ps4:).
     
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    it isn't like a 5 year old PC, it's clearly delivering some very impressive results as you can see from the various 3rd party sites that have done hands on play tests... so it's well worth it if you're a console gamer who wants an upgraded experience for the next 4-ish years.

    Also PS4 Pro did enhance the TSW experience when it came out delivering much smoother frame rates, but I wouldn't be playing anything on that machine anymore... it's far too outdated. I certainly didn't buy the PS4 Pro or 5 Pro for TSW, but will be interesting to see what if anything the integrated boost modes do and if DTG utilise any of the new features, as supposedly they're not labour intensive to make use of.
     
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    I’ve watched a few of those hands-on videos. My comparison was not a slight but a simple reality check. If you take a good PC from four or so years ago, use DLSS upscaling (equivalent to PSSR), you will probably find similar levels of performance to the PS5 Pro. Don’t forget, the PS5 when it came out was already at least two or three years behind good PCs then. I’m not looking to debate PC vs console (I like both and have had both), just trying to set expectations in that the PS5 Pro is not going to blow anything away except perhaps for older consoles. This is good news for console players who never envisage moving to PC, but rather pricey for what it is.
     
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