Gwe Remaster: Appreciation And Discussion Thread

They were in 2017 and ole was to didcot parkway

 

still would have been nice if we got the route to didcot parkway in the OG route

 

Want the Track Shadows finally be reworked on This Route?
The old One Looks terrible

 

Here's a thought: the 800s were introduced to the route in 2017, but the time period in game - while being the same year- is slightly before they started service.

That would explain why they didn't include it (along with the fact no license means they can't source sounds or get reference pictures)

 

Yeah ,and im guessing they can't build the overhead because that was finished in 2017 just they still where running hst's and 166/165's until the 800/802 tests where done

 

This is just a general off-topic gripe with me, but I reckon the "they only had an 801" excuse is somewhat bogus. They still managed to source the sounds of the emergency generator, even if they were sourced from a third party, which is supposedly the same as the generators used in regular service for 800s. All it would've taken is a slight remodel and functionality tweak, and boom, we have an 800.

 

Yeah that is what i thought

 

So glad to join group, is there any possibility of an Amtrak silver star line map from NY-Mia stop in Lorton Va to connect Auto Train and disconnect in Sanford FL ?❤️

 

Ah, the hopes and dreams of a new TSW user. How innocent.
Unfortunately, NY-Miami would be an insanely long route to work on and play within the game, let alone with the extensions you want. Come back in around a decade or two and you might have your wish granted.

 

Welcome aboard, ya youngin with the Christmas gleam in ya eyes, just hoping to get the train under the Tree with high hopes, We can all dream, good to have them, always dream big. I am still waiting for the Christmas Train under the tree, I don't have that many years left.
But I do like the idea, it would have to be done in sections, no way to do a run like that in a single sitting, and DTG would need to double the DEV team to get something like that done, I would imagine.

 

It's still a brand new loco dtg would still have to spend a lot of time on. Doesn't take 5 minutes or a single day.

 

Surely there is probably a better place to put this? This is a UK route thread?
Otherwise, this will be yet another thread that drifts wildly off topic. We have enough of them already.

In other news, I am really looking forward to this. I bought TWS2 when it was really cheap, and GWE was my first DLC purchase. I played it for hours and still use it now. Despite its shortcomings, I think it still holds up really well.

 

Yeah like getting DTG getting a GWR licence lol

 

Is there any further news of a release date or a probable release?

 

Not at this time

 

On the question of class 800 services - whilst the external appearance of each variant is very close (including hiding engines behind panels), the bigger issue would be modelling of physics. The 801 has only one engine, whilst the 800, for example, has multiple engines along the consist, so first there may an exhaust stack modelling requirement, but also sound modifications (interior and exterior) and changes to acceleration/deceleration timing - no idea if there are cab differences, but I would assume there must be, if only to model engine starting/stopping controls and instrument displays and remove pantograph controls. So think new DLC, not free add-on.

 

The 800 has 5 V12 diesels, whereas the 801 only has one, as a last-mile emergency backup. So very different.

 

The 800 uses MTU V12 engines, with 3 in the intermediate coaches for 800/0&1 (5 car) and 5 spread in the 7 intermediate cars of the 800/2&3 (9 car), and you can tell which cars have them, as the red fuel cap and e-stop button are visible on the side.
Yes, the 800 is a lot slower to accelerate/decelerate when being supplied by the generators, with the LNER 800s especially, as their engines are limited to 560kW, but GWR modified theirs to produce 700kW by removing the generation limit, albeit a small amount of power is still used to supply train power for lights and systems and etc.
Ofc the interior differs between LNER Azumas and GWR IETs, with the most significant part being the exclusion of a snack bar and First class being smaller on both versions of the IET.
As far as the cab is concerned, both are very similar, except in the spot beside the main screen where Azumas have a plug socket, IETs have an analog speedometer.
The 801s modelled on ECML have the diesel engine control buttons the same as 800s, and there isn't much difference between them, so you can activate an 800's engines when driving in an 801 coupled to it.
GWR IETs still have pantograph controls, as they are Bi-mode, and still use overhead along an extent of the great western mainline.

The solution to the problem is to go back in time and convince someone at DTG to quickly model the 800 alongside the 801. But then we'd be complaining about terrible diesel engine sounds

 

I mean we could have the 769s as a dlc because of it did run tests and it's also on of DTG Liam favourites

 

This is true, however they were largely tested on the North Downs Line as this was supposed to be the new traction for that route. I would buy this for the additional variety.

 

The north downs line should be its own route

 

True, set out of the higgledy-piggledy time period of GWR. We've got Reading and Redhill both ingame, lots of layers and past DMUs and EMUs to modify for the line.

 

Yes with a nice Class 119 Gloucester RC&W DMU as the primary new train. L

 

Or the Tadpoles of Class 206 (3R).

 

If the 119s are ever made, it would be a perfect opportunity to create the 123 and 124 dmus in tandem as internally they were very similar. Externally the 119 has a fairly standard Derby cab with the 123 getting a different design with gangway connections and the 124 a custom glassfibre moulding.

 

I just drooled into my morning coffee…

Can smell the diesel fumes mixed with that unique musty aroma from the seats in the saloon.

 

Smellovision.....coming to TSW6. Lol. I remember the lingering perfumed diesel smell when first arriving at Ealing Broadway in 1991. Hazardous but nostalgic and sweet.

 

I used to love going to New Street in the late 80's and the lingering smell of diesel.

A few months ago I was waiting on Langley Green for my train home and a light class 50 came through, presumably from the SVR and I smelt that smell again which lingered for a while.

 

I have never been able to establish what the perfume was that BR used in the diesel. It made a sweet aroma compared to plain diesel which is just like oily foul smoke.

 

way off topic, but the most of the ships I went to sea in were diesel electrics, while the aroma of diesel might be nostalgic for those that occasionally whiffed it, living on the ship months on end everything on board was saturated to the point that even the potato chips (crisps for those in the UK) tasted like diesel. It would take several washing of the uniforms once off patrol to remove the lingering smell.

 

I did wish this route went all the way to Oxford like it did in the old Rail Simulator one as this would made a nice longer run

 

Oxford and Newbury would have been nice along with the branches. I guess DTG simply did the 36 miles to Reading as it was the first TSW attempt and they opted to walk before they could run. What really amazed me, was the complete lack of dlc locomotives even to this day as there are multiple other types that would really help fill out the route. Even now that there are multiple third parties involved, we still have none of the other types introduced which is a real shame.

 

Oh I'm sure if you smelt it everyday it would be wearing. I probably wouldn't be as fond of it if I had been platform staff on New Street.

 

DTG Liam Will DLOGW also be remastered or only the modern version? Thanks

 

Yup. My ships in the Navy were steam powered, but by that time (the 1980s) the USN had converted all its boilers from Bunker C to DFM (Diesel Fuel, Marine). An ineradicable small.

 

Keep in mind that GWE was the second route ever made for TSW, the first UK route, the first with safety systems, the first passenger route, the first with multiple units, and the first with a major station to be built. DTG bit off a big chunk to chew, and given all that, I can see why they restricted its scope to 32 miles.

 

Will the 47 layers be NTP or BPO?

 

First Diesel-Hydraulic vehicle (Class 166), first to allow you to move seamlessly between vehicles (previously you had to look at the gap and press E), remember it also came with three brand new trains. To choose the GWML out of Paddington on top of that, too, when they could've easily chosen another, quieter section, such as Exeter - Paignton.

 

DTG Liam Will there be any more GWE info/images/videos in the october roadmap (if you can confirm anything)

 

What, why!?!

 

Thank you great news.

 

one thing im gonna ask. which time is it set in?

 

2017 is the timetabke

 

that is quite shocking. i thought it was older than that but the D stock tells that its before 2019

 

I'm sure I heard somewhere that it is a 2016 timetable, but because the original timetable has '2016' somewhere in its name, they put 2017 in the new one.

 

The original was 2015 as far as I recall.

 

that explains why. i already knew it was before 2017 because the D-stock is there. but i have a feeling that it is 2015-16 but because of the heathrow and GWE class 387 i say its mid 2016