Hello! I wanted to share this route to you guys to see what you would think. Since the southern coast is coming, why not go north? This route is around 90 something miles. Extending it to Crewe will be 105 miles. The stations on the route are: Chester Shotton Flint Prestatyn Rhyl Abergele and Pensarn Colwyn bay Llandudno junction (To Llandudno calling at Deganwy and Llandudno.) Conwy Penmaenmawr Llanfairfechan Bangor Llanfairpwll Bodorgan Ty croes Rhosneigr Valley And finally Holyhead. If this route is too long we can shorten it to Llandudno from Llandudno junction calling at Deganwy and Llandudno. Here is the map of the route. Trains The trains on this are: Class 197. Running the majority of services on this line. Class 158. Doing services to Holyhead and other destinations. Possible add on The Avanti class 221. Running services from Holyhead to Euston. Conclusion Now this route definitely fits into LAMP perfectly. I think it would be a great route. Thank you for reading my suggestion and I want to hear what you think of it!
Would love to see this. It could give us the opportunity for future loco DLCs such as the TFW MkIV sets.
Also forgot to mention Avanti 805s usually take place for the 221s but I've preferred to use the voyager.
I mean.. 37s used to run on the line, saw photos of them at rhyl. So we can use Steam engines and obviously 37s and 47s. But I prefer the modern day trains.
The 67s/91s don't run on the line any more so if it would to be added it couldn't of been used on the line..
Plans have been scrapped/put on hold, probably never will happen now. I remember it was supposed to be electrified in the 80's but obviously never materialised.
I would love to see this route come to TSW. Here is a cab ride from Chester to Holyhead by Don Coffey
It's a great video. I'd suggest the 175 to the North west coast but it isn't used as much as the 197 or the 158.
Nope. Just checked. That is not a station on the line. I'll edit the map so it's a little bit clearer! EDIT: Finished the edit. Hopefully it's alot clearer now.
Pretty much all the traction is in the game to do an early 80’s BR Classic version. All it would need is a Class 25, a Class 103 or Class 108 DMU and some blue/grey Mark Ones with a buffet and sleeping car added to flesh out the consists. Thrashing the Class 40 on a rake of 11 Mark Ones would (IMHO) be far more satisfying than driving a whisper quiet modern unit across there.
Give me stuff that doesn't already exist in TSC. TSW's limitations make these duplicates a disappointment mostly.
For a main line in Wales that could actually be quite hard. NWC as said already exists as does the Marches Line from Newport up to Shrewsbury and the South Wales Main Line. Cambrian and the Coast possibly but a bit limited timetable wise, Central Wales has just 4 (or 5 if you go back to BR Classic days) trains a day in each direction, west of Swansea or the Cardiff Valleys, which we are getting a small part of in the coming months.
What info did you use ? I looked here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairfechan_railway_station Llanfairfechan is served by Transport for Wales services only. As of the December 2023 timetable change, there are 11 trains per weekday to Holyhead There is typically a two-hourly service starting at Holyhead which runs to Birmingham International via Chester and Shrewsbury. Other Chester-bound services usually run to Cardiff Central, Crewe, Manchester Airport or terminate at Shrewsbury
I used the official TFW map for the stations. When I also went to Rhyl nothing came up for the station you said.. This is the official map from TFW.
Oop. Mb... I'm just blind. I'll edit it! Sorry!! I feel dumb now arguing about it. I just didn't see it on the other side. My fault.
Hopefully it would be a voyager as we already have a 801 so would be nice to see. And then maybe the 805 as a loco pack
Also forgot to mention. Yes it would be cool to add the 175 but I think it would be even better to do it on a GWR line as the 175s are heading to GWR.
Yep, GWR's gain is TFW's loss. I hated the 175's at first but that was only because they replaced the proper trains (Class 37 hauled with mk1/mk2 stock) so it just wasn't the same travelling to the seaside on a plastic DMU, however, over time I got used to them whenever I visited the coast and they were a smooth, comfortable ride, unlike the bloody awful 197's
Well glad you had a good experience with them. I've not yet rode them yet. From my trip to the North Wales no 175s were running most likely because they're being transferred over. So I had to stick with the 197s and the 158s.
I was thinking not to set this fully modern day but still when the voyagers were doing services instead of 805s.
Nice suggestion of having another Welsh route in the game and of course the Super Voyagers prior to them being replaced by the 805s.
Yeah I thought why not add them while they're still running. We can always add the 805 when they run on a different route.
Now that the voyagers have left for XC (Cross Country), it might make the chance of getting an 805 more likely considering how it is of a similar model to the 801 we already have. Plus, we are now getting the Cardiff City Network which would have additional layers onto the NWCML (North Wales Coastal Mainline)
