Tsw5 Next Major Update

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  1. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Active Member

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    I know in the other week we had a small update to address some minor issues for TSW5 but does anyone know or have a clue to when we can expect the next big patch which I will assume, fix a lot of issues?

    curious because I’ve wanted to play TSW5 the last few days but for me on Xbox Series S, it’s just crash after crash on WCML at Euston, Frame rate on the German new route can get a little choppy for me and san bardino has been fine so far. Not here to vent or anything, just curious!
     
  2. grdaniel48

    grdaniel48 Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dion.

    I believe one of the fixes, must be the selected weather and photo mode change it to clear skies issue.
    I am on PS5, and not having any problem.

    Only one is "sometimes", arriving at Frankfurt Hbf.
    In that case some km before, I save the game.
    But despite of that, I have just one " blue screen error" and have to restart PS5-

    Note: I have selected as image definition "HD", not "4K"
    For me for being on a "Simulator", I get very nice quality images, no need for mayor definition.
    It is not a movie..

    May be other members are running on 4K, which surely demands more resources

    Please find attached an image I took on Frankfurt HBF

    Train Sim World 5_20240928193030.jpg

    As you can see there are lot of trains, and I saved the game around 5 km before.
    Even with 2 or 3 planes flying around.

    But due to the mentioned "Photo Mode" issue, there are no clouds at all.
    I do not know how much the 3d clouds affects the performance.
    We could check it when that issue be fixed.

    Regards
     
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  3. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Active Member

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    I also play on HD. The game will boot me off when I arrive at Euston, probably because of the light baking or just memory. However, I was looking for any news regarding a possible update or an update on when we can expect a patch.
     
  4. Calidore266

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    From another thread.

     
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  5. deeuu#6908

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    Next September, it will be called TSW6 (but it won't fix those issues)
     
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  6. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Active Member

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    So like TSW5 then?;)
     
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    And TSW4..

    And TSW3..

    And TSW2..
     
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  8. locobilly

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    They really have to change their culture because not surprisingly this franchise is getting a bad name. I generally want to like the game but the quality of releases is so erratic. All dlc should use Just Trains work as a baseline and not release it until it reaches that standard. TSG work is also pretty consistent. If those companies can do good work then they all can. Certain sub contractors should never be allowed anywhere near a busy mainline ever again.
     
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  9. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Active Member

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    I agree with this. I want to enjoy the game as I’ve been playing it ever since the first one came out but over the years, the quality has gone down a little bit and especially with TSW5 now with a load of bugs everywhere. JT and SHG have demonstrated what a quality route is and in my opinion, have set the benchmark for routes. Also to add on to what you said, we don’t hear a lot when it comes to updates regarding patches and game updates, would be nice if we could communicate better.
     
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  10. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    What I want is more longer routes
     
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  11. junior hornet

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    ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME :)
     
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  12. Dion Flannery

    Dion Flannery Active Member

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    Fairs to be honest Hahahah:cool:
     
  13. lovetrains 3628

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    theres a patch next week
     
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  14. dean stansfield

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    Where did you find the information on a patch/update next week love trains?
     
  15. captaingunadeep

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    It was from DTG Alex from the TSC Discord server.
     
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  16. dean stansfield

    dean stansfield Well-Known Member

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    Thank you
    Captain
    Love trains
    It'd be nice if they bothered to post it here.
     
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  17. Redbus

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    Looking forward to this update, I tried conductor mode on BCC and it was a bugged to the point of not being able to get the train moving.
     
  18. lovetrains 3628

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    i heard it from the stream
     
  19. lovetrains 3628

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    they wont till the patch notes and day are comfirmed
     
  20. JetWash

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    Steady on. When MML first came out it was as bad, if not worse than WCMLS. The latter isn’t good enough, but using the state MML is in now as a benchmark is not helpful imho. It was absolutely woeful when it first released.
     
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  21. Bryer

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    Wanna be careful throwing rumours like that around. Unless it's posted here it's unofficial comment.

    Especially when the forum police rock up.
     
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  22. Spikee1975

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    DTG staff are more active on Discord than here, and Alex is speaking there, as well as in here, as DTG Alex, using his company account. So it's also official.
     
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  23. Bryer

    Bryer Well-Known Member

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    Ah the DTG double standards.... It's ok I get it.
     
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  24. JetWash

    JetWash Well-Known Member

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    Not really, anyone can join Discord.
     
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    Does seem odd though to have a company owned and operated forum which is then given second preference over Discord which I personally have very little truck with.
     
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  26. Xander1986

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    This is the message from the Discord!

    "Hi folks - apologies for the ping, I wanted to share a quick message as we go into the weekend on when you can expect the next patch, some top fixes we've implemented, and generally just a thank you for everyone for staying patient whilst we get these improvements added

    ## **We've got a big ol' list of improvements coming!**

    You know the rules, if I give you an exact date of when it's coming out then reality itself tears apart, but what I can say is we intend you to be playing with these improvements ideally this time next week.

    It has a whole lot of changes for TSW5 core content (WCML, San Bernardino, Frankfurt, FlixTrain, Pendolino) and also for Expert 101, Bremen, Niddertalbahn, Rosenheim and Birmingham Cross City. I'm still in the process of actually writing up the notes, but some bigs ones included in this patch are:
    **West Coast Main Line**
    - Euston lighting changes, added OHLE outside Milton Keynes, Bletchley station texture fix, Watford junction no longer annexed by TfL
    - Improvements to stop passengers clumping in stations and getting clogged on stairs / passageways
    - Class 350 headlights no longer stay on when de-activated in the cab
    - Class 350 added track joint sounds, updated gangway door audio and removed clicking sounds in fans
    **Frankfurt Fulda**
    - Fixed BR 114 brakes not working correctly
    **Birmingham Cross City**
    - Improvements to conductor mode

    **Performance**
    We're also taking more swings to improve performance, including on WCML, but also more generally on consoles to help stop memory crashes that players are having. It's not quite the full picture yet, we've got more we want to do on this, but we hope it'll start making the experience smoother, one patch at a time.

    There's a ton of changes, it'll be ~3-4x the size of the smaller patches we put live so far - I'm still going through the notes, but I will confirm them all once we're ready to get them live

    Catch you all in the October roadmap next week! "
     
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  27. Omnicitywife

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    lol, what?
     
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  28. Bryer

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    Yeh but they shouldn't be exclusively posting updates on a 3rd party chat server and not on their own forums.

    If you think that posting a rather large update about their patch plans/fix list etc on Discord and not their own forums is acceptable then that's entirely up to you.

    Most of the casual player base comes here for their updates, and there hasn't been anything on the forums for quite a while.
     
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  29. Dion Flannery

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    To be fair, they did say before release that all though conductor mode is implemented on BCC, it’s not recommended to play as it still needs support and adjustment due to it being a TSW 5 feature with a TSW 3 route. I am sure however they said they will be adding it to the route properly in the future :)
     
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  30. Dion Flannery

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    But compared to now? One of the best routes in the game for sure. For those who buy the game now and see that, they’d expect everything else to be up to that standard.
     
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  31. HardGrit

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    And TSW 2020
     
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  32. warpshell

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    And when you assume DTG will fix things, you definetely an ass :) We have problems that are several generations old.
     
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  33. warpshell

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    Early access just means you get early access to bugs, same every year, probably get worse.
     
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  34. JetWash

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    Well yeah, but then you will be able to say that about WCMLS in a year’s time probably. It’s an odd way to carry on.

    Bryer He didn’t post an update, he just gave a heads up that an update is coming and when the official announcement is made it will be posted here as usual. Of all the things to get wound up by I’d say this rates very low indeed!
     
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  35. Emmy_MAN

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    Am I reading this correctly ?

    **Frankfurt Fulda**
    - Problem that the brakes of the BR 114 did not work properly !

    I hardly think that this is the only problem with Frankfurt - Fulda that needs to be patched. What about the other heaps of errors on Frankfurt - Fulda, will they come with TSW 6 or what?
     
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    Did you read the full message that i have shared? I dont think so.... This is a small summary...

    "There's a ton of changes, it'll be ~3-4x the size of the smaller patches we put live so far - I'm still going through the notes, but I will confirm them all once we're ready to get them live"
     
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  37. Dion Flannery

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    I am unsure of the state of Frankfurt-Fulda as I haven’t payed much attention to it. I’m going to say by your comment, that it’s as bad as the WCML.
     
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    Not true... Frankfurt-Fulda is excuted much better.
     
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  39. disco#7930

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    Have to agree.
    Surely all exclusive Info, DLC, updates and feedback should surely be put on their own forum first?

    Wouldn't expect a car manufacturer to announce an update to their latest car on Discord or Viber over using their official channels.
     
  40. 3-4x previous patch history for this iteration isnt a 'ton of changes'. I'd call it a nod in the general direction of 'oops its bad even by our standards' acknowledgement. The changes listed barely scratch the surface of the complaints.
     
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  41. Xander1986

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    Is it necessary to use such language in this case? A little overdone and wait until the full list is released
     
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  42. 14trainfan2029

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    Crashes need to be fixed on frankfurt fulda, it is annoying as it is pretty much the same state as the wcml. Xbox series s
     
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  43. phillip.good

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    And PS5…. I have only managed to complete about 1 service in 10 on FF, how can the optimisation be this bad?

    I moved over to consoles from PC years ago as I was sick with CTDs but here I am again, I know the crash reports that we send go nowhere when you hit the ‘report and send’ button but I wish they charged DTG a tenner a time as something may have been done since TSW3!
     
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    On pc its also not enjoyable.... But not that i have crashes. I think there is a possible cause of this. I have never experienced such behaviour for a TSW route. But i have no hope it will fixed soon.... Its more the way how they have choose this route and the massive look of the station. But that its crashing is not a good indication and i hope its a simple fix or there is a fix in general.
     
  45. Edited to moderate the tone, although after 5 years of this release and abandon cycle, the more fruity aspects of the English language might be more appropriate.
    Your own post quoting me preserves my original profanity for posterity and the illumination of my general levels of frustration and disappointment.
     
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    sunscreen#8305 I removed the quote because I don't think it's necessary and I'm kind of done with all that drama queen behavior. No, it's not ideal and that should definitely be looked at, but come on, there's more to life than this game. Fun can be found in so many places and if you really think it's that bad, maybe you're done with the game and it's better to find your entertainment somewhere else, maybe?! No hate, but more of a reality check!
     
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    I wonder what the changes for Niddertalbahn will be?

    Also it would be nice to see improvements to the core game functionalities, like the photo mod resetting weather and the completely unusable creators club broswer.
     
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    Fix for the TSW5 Live Map not being available on the route.
     
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  49. Emmy_MAN

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    About Frankfurt - Fulda
    Why build this section into a route that can't be traveled anyway?



    And in Frankfurt, too, so much was built underground, for what ? We will never get an extension for the underground station anyway.

    And where have all these passengers gone?
    On the Flixtrain you travel without passengers all the time.
     
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    Autogen automatically builds track and dtg have to model it if it's immediate scenery otherwise it will just look wrong
     

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