Hello guys today I will be suggesting the North Wales Coast Line which runs from Holyhead to Crewe. The North Wales Coast Line is a major railway line situated in the north of Wales and Cheshire, England, it runs from Crewe located on the West Coast Main Line to Holyhead which is located on the Isle of Anglesey, The Line has 19 stations. The line between Holyhead and Crewe is 106 miles. Lets move onto the stations list now. The First Station is Holyhead, located on the Isle of Anglesey This station serves the Welsh Town town of Holyhead, It is the western terminus of the North Wales Coast Line which is 1051⁄2 miles (170km) west of Crewe and is managed by Transport for Wales. Holyhead Station connects with the Holyhead ferry terminal. Holyhead Station is connected to the Town Centre by a stainless steel pedestrian/cycle bridge called The Celtic Gateway. The first station was opened by the Chester and Holyhead Railway on the 1st of August 1848, but was replaced on the 15th of May 1851. The present station was opened by the London and North Western Railway on the 17th of January 1866. This is Holyhead Ferry Terminal, It is served by Irish Ferries and the Stena Line, both of these take you from Holyhead to Dublin in 2-3 hours. It sails through the Irish Sea to get to Dublin, Ireland, It is a 29 minute walk from Holyhead Station.
The second Station is Valley, located on the Isle of Anglesey. This is Valley Station, It serves the village of Valley in Anglesey, Wales, This is the last station before the Western Terminus of the North Wales Coast Line at Holyhead. This station also serves nearby RAF Base and Anglesey Airport. It opened in 1849, there was a small goods yard for livestock and a siding for a nearby corn mill, There was improvements during the 19th century which included an extension to the station building in 1870 and lengthening of the platforms in 1889. In 1962 transfer sidings were put in place near the station which was used for the dispatch of rail of spent fuel which was from Wylfa nuclear power station. This station was closed in February 1966 as a result of the beeching axe, it was reopened to passenger trains in March 1982 after a substained lobbying campaign by local residents
This is the RAF Base in Valley, If you look on the right you can see that the North Wales Coast Line travels next to the Base. This RAF Base is on the Isle of Anglesey, and is also used as Anglesey Airport. It provides both basic and advanced fast-jet training using the Beechcraft Texan T.1 and BAE Systems Hawk T.2 and also provides mountain and maritime training for aircrew using the Airbus Jupiter HT.1 helicopter. The airfield was constructed south to the village of Valley in the latter part of 1940 and was opened for operations on the 1st of February 1941 as a Fighter Sector Station No. 9 Group RAF with the task of providing defence cover for England's industrial north-west and shipping in the Irish Sea. Initial detachments were made by Hawker Hurricanes of 312 (Czechoslovak) Squadron RAF and 615 (County of Surrey) Squadron RAuxAF. A detachment of Bristol Beaufighters of 219 (Mysore) Squadron provided night fighter cover.
The third station is Rhosneigr. Rhosneigr Station serves the village of Rhosneigr on the Isle of Anglesey, off the coast of North Wales. The unstaffed Station is managed by Transport for Wales, who also operate all trains that serve it. The Station was opened in May 1907, which was much later than the other Anglesey Stations on the North Wales Coast Line. The Station closed between the 1st of January 1917 and the 1st of February 1919 as an economy measure during World War 1. Unlike the other stations it has neither sidings or a goods yard. The Station buildings were originally made of wood but in 1953 they were replaced by concrete structures. The structure on platform 1 remains whilst the one on platform 2 has been replaced by a metal and plastic bus stop-style shelter. The stations master's house still stands but is a private dwelling.
The forth Station is Tŷ Croes. Tŷ Croes Station serves Tŷ Croes on the Isle of Anglesey, Wales which is served by Transport for Wales and is a request stop. The Station, originally to be named Llanfaelog, was opened in November 1848 with a signal box being added in 1872. The box is located next to a level crossing which separates the 2 staggered platforms. There was a warehouse and a crane nearby and a small good yard which closed in 1964. The crossing gates are still hand worked by the crossing keeper. The Grade 2 listed box formerly a block post, but no longer works as such (the block section now runs from Gaerwen to Valley). The station is unmanned. The Station buildings still stand and are now used as a private residence, basic waiting shelters are provided for passenger use on each side.
The fifth Station is Bodorgan. Bodorgan Station serves the hamlet of Bodorgan and the village of Bethel on the Isle of Anglesey, Wales. The stop is an unmanned halt, and serves as a request stop for Chester and Holyhead-bound local trains along the North Wales Coast. The Station, which was originally to be called Trefdraeth, was opened in October 1849 and had a small signal box, a small goods yard and a water tower. The goods yard closed in December 1964 but the stationmaster's house remains (now in private use). There are stone-built shelters on both platforms.
This is Malltraethh Viaduct. It is situated on the Afon Cefni River and is near the village of Malltraethh. It carries the North Wales Coast Line. It is Grade 2 listed and has 19 limestone arches. It has flanking structures of land across the Malltraethh Marsh.
The next station we will be showing isn't on the Railway Line anymore. This is Gaerwen Station, it was situated on the North Wales Coast Line, serving as a junction for the Anglesey Central Railway line to Amlwich. The station was built by the Chester and Holyhead Railway and opened in January 1849. The C&HR was acquired by the London and North Western Railway on 1st of January 1859 and the LNWR was merged into the London Midland and Scottish Railway on the 1st of January 1923. The main station building was located on North side of the line, serving eastbound trains. There was a small shelter on the Holyhead bound platform. The Station was closed to passengers by British Railways on the 14th of February 1966, but the adjoining freight yard remained open for coal and fertiliser traffic before it also closed in 1984. There were 2 signal boxes close to the Station, one of which remains in use. It is located on the North side of the line at the east end of the old station site and adjacent to a level crossing which is now guarded by lifting barriers. The junction to the Anglesey Central Railway has been disconnected after services were discontinued on the branch line.
This is a manual foot crossing near Holyhead Road (A5). A manual foot crossing is where it is controlled by pedestrians and people driving on the road. If there is a green light it is clear to open the crossing, if it is red that means a train is coming and its unsafe to open it, it is important to close it after crossing to keep others safe.
At this point here we go over a river called Afon Braint, the river splits into different parts here, on the North side of the track theres a small part that goes to the left, if you look on the left branch there was a small part going North, on the top right there are 2 different branches, on the south side of the track if you look on the left there is a branch that splits from the north side, but on the south middle and top right that is the main part of the River.
The sixth Station is Llanfairpwll (Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch). Llanfairpwll Station, also signposted as Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, is a station on the North Wales Coast Line from Crewe to Holyhead, serving the village of Llanfairpwllgwyngyll, Anglesey, Wales. It opened in 1848, it was initally the terminus of the line from Holyhead before the opening of the Britannia Bridge to the mainland in 1850. It suffered catastropic fire on the 13th of November 1865 and had to be completely re-constructed. It was closed in 1966 but reopened in 1970 due to the fire on Britannia Bridge again as the terminus for trains from Holyhead, with a single wooden platform. It was again closed in 1972 and subsequently reopened again in 1973 with both wooden platforms (the only one on the island), which was refurbished in 2017 and the signal box remain from the original configuration, but converted into a gate keeper's box, meaning no junctions or signals are controlled from there, except for gate locking. However, a turnable, sidings and goods yard have disappeared, the latter 2 under a car park. This station is unstaffed. This footbridge is located in Llanfairpwll Station, the top photo is before it got refurbished (2016 and before), the bottom photo is after it got refurbished (2017 and after). It was repainted and was upgraded to be safer
This crossing is situated 140 meters from Llanfairpwll Station towards the East. It has a signal box and a gate keeper controlling the gates for the crossing, it is located on Station Road and Crossing Terrace which is just outside Ffordd Caergybi (A5) and Ffordd Brynsiencyn (A4080).
This is Britannia Bridge, It is 1,500 meters away from Llanfairpwll Station and is used to leave and enter Isle of Anglesey. In the middle of the bridge, the top part is for road vehicles, the bottom part is for trains. Once you enter this bridge towards Holyhead your in Isle of Anglesey, if you enter it the opposite direction your leaving Isle of Anglesey. It goes over The Menai Strait. This Bridge in Wales is between The Isle of Anglesey and City of Bangor. It was originally designed and built by the noted Railway Engineer Robert Stephenson as a Tubular Bridge of wrought iron rectangular box-section spans for carrying rail traffic. It's importance was to form a critical link of the Chester and Holyhead Railway's route, enabling trains to directly travel between London and the port of Holyhead, thus facilitating a sea link to Dublin, Ireland. The construction was finished on the 5th of March 1850, Stephenson himself fitted the last rivet of the structure, marking the bridges offical completion. On the 3rd of March 1966, the Britannia Bridge received Grade 2 listed status. A fire in May 1970 caused extensive damage to the Britannia Bridge. Subsequent investigation determined that the damage to the tubes was so extensive that they were not realistically repairable. The Bridge was rebuilt in a quite different configuration, reusing the piers while employing new arches to support not one but two decks, as the new Britannia Bridge was to function as a combined road-and-rail bridge, The Bridge was rebuilt in phases, initally reopening in 1972 as a single-tier steel truss arch bridge, carrying only rail traffic. Over the next eight years more of the structure was replaced, allowing more trains to run and a second tier to be completed. The second tier was opened to accommodate road traffic in 1980. The Bridge was subject to a £4 million four-month in depth maintenance programme during 2011. Since the 1990s, there has been talk of increasing road capacity over the Menai Strait, either by extending the road deck of the existing bridge or via construction of a third bridge.
I think it might be time to make a route that’s 100 miles because the longest route in TSW is 116 miles which means it could be possible to do 100 mile routes. Holyhead to Crewe is 106 miles.
After going through Britannia Bridge towards Bangor we travel on the side and go past a bridge. The bridge is called Menai Suspension Bridge (Menai Bridge). It is a suspension bridge spanning the Menai Strait between the Isle of Anglesey and the mainland of Wales. It was designed by Thomas Telford and was completed in 1826, it was the world’s first major suspension bridge. The bridge still carries road traffic and is a Grade 1 listed structure
A fairly regular suggestion that probably ticks most of the LAMPOIL boxes. Would prefer in BR Classic era particularly as most of the train types already exist in game. Would just need some blue/grey Mark Ones and maybe a Class 24 or Class 25.
The seventh Station is Bangor. Bangor Station serves the city of Bangor, Gwynedd, It is operated by Transport for Wales. The Station is the last mainland station on the North Wales Coast Line between Crewe and Holyhead. It is the busiest in terms of passenger numbers in North Wales, as it serves the community around Caernarfon and further West. It is close to the Snowdonia National Park and Bangor University, and has an interchange with bus services to the various towns and villages of north-west Gwynedd and Anglesey. The Station, which cost £6,960 (about £21 million in 2015), was opened on the 1st of May 1848 by the Chester and Holyhead Railway. Lying between Bangor Tunnel to the east of the station, and Belmont Tunnel to the west, the Station was progressively expanded to a junction station as a number of branches were opened. From Menai Bridge to Caernarvon (Bangor and Caernarvon Railway) (1848) From Gaerwan to Amlwich (Anglesey Central Railway) (1866) From Holland Arms to Red Wharf Bay and Benllech (Red Wharf Bay Line) (1909) To Bethesda (Bethesda Branch) (1884) The Station was renamed twice under British Railways, Originally Bangor, it became Bangor (Caerns), then Bangor (Gwynedd). In some timetables it was shown as Bangor for Beaumaris. The present building on platform 1 was the main building, with a forecourt on the site of platform were constructed on the site of the forecourt with a new frontage facing Deiniol Road, which is still in use as the station booking office. Ultimately there were 4 platforms and a small bay platform to serve the main line and branch lines. By the 1950s there was an extensive goods yard, a five-road engine shed (on the site of the steel mill), a turnable, three-road goods shed, two signal boxes, an extra footbridge and a subway connecting platforms. There were a total of nine separate through routes from one tunnel to the other. With the closure of the branch lines in the 1960s and 1970s, the station was reduced to just two operational platforms, with the track and platform on the pre 1920s forecourt converted back to something like it's original use. The station presently uses two large island platforms, each served by loop lines which diverge from and rejoin the main lines in each direction. The main lines pass between the two operational platforms, and are used for passing empty stock movements, for terminated trains to lay-over awaiting their next working, and freight services, particularly the carriage of nuclear fuel flasks to and from Wylfa nuclear power station on Anglesey. At the western end of the station at the mouth of Belmont Tunnel, is a cross-over between the up main line and the down main line. Diverging from the down main line, also at the western end of the station, are four sidings, two adjacent to the most southerly platform island, and the other two enclosed within the nearby Network Rail engineering compound. Bangor signal box, which can be found at the western end of the up-direction platform, is lever-operated and controls the signals, points and user-worked level crossings as far as Abergwyngregyn to the east of Bangor, and Llanfairpwll to the west, including the single line crossing the Britannia Bridge between the Welsh mainland and Anglesey. The station is staffed 7 days a week (except Christmas Day and Boxing Day, when there are no train services) by both platform staff, who assist mobility-impaired passengers, dispatch the trains and provide travel advice, and booking office clerks. The platform building houses rail staff offices, passenger toilets and a waiting room, a café, and a British Transport Police station. The station has two long stay car parks, to the front and rear of the station. 20 minutes of free parking is available in designated areas for the picking up or dropping off of passengers. The rear car park occupies part of the site of the former carriage sidings.
This is Cegin Viaduct, it is around 1,300 meters away from Bangor towards Crewe. The monument is a well-preserved example of an early railroad bridge, built between 1798 and 1800 to carry the Penrhyn railroad over the lower reaches of the Afon Cegin. It is likely that the Cegin Viaduct is the oldest known multi-arched railway bridge to survive above ground in Wales and possibly the world. It comprises a stone-built three arched bridge measuring about 26m in length between each abutment and 5m in width and 3.2m in height. Each arch has a span of between 5m and 6m and height of about 1.8m. The arches are well constructed, with each voussoir being of similar size and shape and with even soffits. There is a slate-roofed sluice at the N end (measuring 1.2m in width and 2m in height) and an artificial pitched stone surface to the riverbed beneath the bridge and extending E, immediately upstream. The earliest known record of the bridge is found in an estate map of 1803, which shows the Penrhyn railroad crossing the Afon Cegin on the site of the present bridge. Work had begun on the railroad in 1800 and comprised laying a then very ambitious length of cast iron rails (designed for use with double-flanged wheels). This edge railway was a longer construction than those already in existence in the South Wales valleys and, as such, marks an important stage in the evolution of the modern railway system. The bridge was almost certainly constructed sometime between 1798 and 1800 and it has been suggested as typical of the work of a local architect and builder, John Foulkes (c. 1765 - 1850). The new Penrhyn Quarry Railway (with a new bridge, the pillars of which still stand immediately to the E, carrying a timber footbridge) superceded the Penrhyn railroad in 1879. The monument is of national importance as a rare and well-preserved example of an early railroad viaduct. The structure may be expected to contain archaeological information in regard to chronology and building techniques. The area to be scheduled comprises the remains described and an area around them within which related evidence may be expected to survive. It is irregular and measures 34m from N to S by 5m transversely.
This is Llandygai Industrial Estate, The North Wales Coast Line goes past here. If you look at the other end of the Industrial Estate you can see a line of trees, thats where the railway line is. Llandegai Industrial Estate is in Llandygai, Gwynedd, Wales. Llandegai Industrial Estate is situated nearby to the sports venue Bangor Gymnastics Club and the meadow Llandegai Henge Complex North Henge.
Here is the second Station that isn't on the Railway Line anymore This is Aber Station, it was a Railway Station on the North Wales Coast Line in the Welsh County of Gwynedd. Although trains still pass on the main line, the station closed in 1960. A signal box on the site remained in use until the installation of colour light signalling. The Station was opened by the Chester and Holyhead Railway on the 1st of May 1848 when it opened its line as far as Bangor. The station had two platforms on either side of a double track line. Facilities for goods included cattle pens and a siding for loading slate from the adjacent writing slate manufactory. The station was host to a LMS caravan from 1934 to 1938 followed by four caravans in 1939. A camping coach was also positioned at the Aber station by the London Midland Region from 1954 to 1959. The station was closed by the British Transport Commission on 12 September 1960. If you look where the train tracks are you can see the original station building on the south track towards Bangor. This shows evidence that Aber Station used to be situated here. Where this building is standing, there used to be sidings for trains here but the tracks got took away and replaced it with a road, car park and a building. This map here shows proof that the Station was here and the sidings too
Just around 100 meters after going past Aber Station we go past Bangor Forest Garden Cyf and Henfaes Farm & Research Centre. If you look where the the tracks are on the top there is a foot crossing.
Just around 400 meters after that towards Crewe we go past another Foot Crossing, It has the manual gates that are operated by people walking.
Around 540 Meters after that we come across another Foot Crossing that pedestrians and cars can go onto, it is connected to this road called Glan Y Mor Elias which is just outside North Wales Expressway (A55).
honestly this sounds like a good idea, and a good excuse to add the avanti 221 to the game cuz TSC one has it. (and it damn well better not be the 805, we already have an IET in the game we DONT need another one).
Well we now have Avanti in game featured in WCMLS and TFW will be introduced with the Cardiff City Network so this much requested route could definitely be on the cards As bob#5089 said, I could see it going up to Chester and I think it would be more interesting to include the Llandudno branch that runs from Llandudno Junction through Deganwy rather than having the extra mileage to Crewe. Rolling stock wise, perhaps it could include TFW 158s since we already have the 158 model to work with in game and the AWC 221 Super Voyager as the new train?
Yes. Instead of going to Crewe it would be better to go to Llandudno. We've already got the 175 in TSC and it would be easier to use the 158
I think this route, would be ever so much better with BR blue diesels pottering along it, rather than modern DMUs. It is a route I would like to see though, that's for sure.
I'd be happy to see this in any era, given that it is represented somewhat accurately. I wouldn't want this to turn out like the WCML-S, but rather the WCML-OS,
Hopefully just-trains does this. We already know how good they are with making routes as seems with Blackpool Branches and the pictures of WCML-OS
This is the most common route the AWC 221s runs on. With the voyager we can make a Cross country 221 aswell giving more variety to the game!
though sadly they are being replaced by 805s. Really wish they would pick 221 for this. Speaking of cross country unless they have a license to do so though thats a completely different story. And their regular 221 compared to Avanti's 221 is there is a buffet in one of the carriages while XC's doesn't (ngl kinda mad about them not having it) the place where the buffet would've been for them is a extra luggage space so its not all the same.
Some may have some minor differences but they can always be changed. (Just like the 158, they had to change the front and do a re-skin. It can be easily done!)
fair enough. Unless Cross Country would like to play ball with somebody that is making stuff for TSW then mayhaps as this can layer on to MANY routes.
Yep exactly, the voyagers are very common express locos up north. Would be a good idea to make them before they go.
unless corporate image doesnt get in the way. I am sure it will work out somehow. What i meant by corporate image is meaning would the company allow the developers to make it, possible due to reasons that they just dont want to let people know they have this fleet of train. I feel like the phrase "corporate image" is a pretty wrong word to describe it but its just the first thing that came to my mind when describe it.
I'd be happy to see a Voyager in red & black (since we know its impossible to get a Virgin license) as we have mods and creators club to fill in the gaps and make it authentic. I'm not sure if that would align with DTG Matt principles of trying to release content with authentic operator liveries though.
