Using A Scenario In An Extended Route

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  1. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    I have downloaded a scenario for a Czech route which has been slowly extended over the years.
    Each time a new version was released the route Hex code changed very slightly
    This was one earlier version
    bb67d9cf-4164-491b-b834-7548bbb92f95
    In a later version the Hex changed bb67d9cf-4164-491b-b834-7548bbb92f99

    And I would like the place scenarios for an earlier shorter route in to the longer version
    But they don't seem to work as expected.

    I try to open them but they go bump with Out of Memory - the route seems ok and I can run QD's and Free Roams
     
  2. Gary Padley

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    Are the scenarios career or standard?...do they feature rolling starts etc? A change in route GUID won't/shouldn't affect a scenario.
     
  3. Spikee1975

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    But a change in tracks.bin and markers can affect it...
     
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    Standard Scenarios without Rolling Starts.
     
  5. Gary Padley

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    Do any have ScenarioNetworkProperties.bin files?
     
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    Yes, some do. They just seem to have stopping point references.
     
  7. Spikee1975

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    It's the reason you can only publish scenarios for a route on Workshop once a route is marked as finalised. Else scenarios can break. You can however repair them.
     
  8. Gary Padley

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    Peter, those ScenarioNetworkProprerties will be based on the original track plan. The route now though uses a different track plan, as it's extended. Result = a mis-match.
    Remove one of those files and try loading the scenario. It will fail to load as the markers will be *missing* but as long as it doesn't fall over to the desktop you can rebuild those instructions.
     
  9. Spikee1975

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    Is that one of the routes from rail-sim.de?

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    The base route was from a junction thru to another station - the extensions added more track at the junction station as did not affect any other markers
     
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    It is the Trat 140 but I downloaded it from a Czech website. https://rw.jachyhm.cz/category/download/ - part way down.

    In the end I decided to remove that version and install the one from Usti to Cheb
    And with a few swaps the scenarios are working.

    A problem with TS Tools
    One of the scenarios was set in Winter so I used TS Tools to edit the weather to Summer.
    Saving the scenario caused TS Tools to remove trains that had a missing loco.
    The work round was to change the locos in LocoSwap then edit the Weather in the ScenarioProperties file
     
  12. Spikee1975

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    Ah I see. Just installed Trat 72. :)
     
  13. Gary Padley

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    But it will have affected Tracks,bin...that's what is used to build the ScenarioNetworkProprerties file.
     
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    I deleted the extended version and installed the shorter version and the scenario worked (ignore the loco) ;)
    Screenshot_CD - Trat 140 - Usti nad Labem - Cheb_50.52297-13.57854_09-26-52.jpg
     
  15. Gary Padley

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    Yeah, as you'd expect...but you want to use it in the extended version!
    Take out the ScenarioNetworkProprerties.bin file and try it on the extended route; as I wrote earlier it won't run, as markers will be missing, but hopefully it won't crash so you'll be able to edit the instructions/add markers
     
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    There does not seem to be any scenarios for the extensions yet so I'm happy with the shorter version at 181kms
     

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