PS5 Blurry Graphics Even Worse Than Before

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  1. railroadamerica

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    RIP TSW 5.0
     
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  2. vendys#6021

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    Hello, just a question, have the dev come up with something in this direction? Can we expect a fix?
     
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    Good morning, they are working on this and we're hoping that further optimisation will help, but right now I don't have any further updates.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, so hopefully it can be fixed .....

    I tested maps Frankfurt-Fulda, Dresden - Riesa, Salzburg - Rosenheim and unfortunately it happens on all three ...

    one thing was interesting on the Frankfurt - Fulda map, the service on line S8 with BR423 from Offenbach to Hanau was without any problems ...... service on the same route Frankfurt - Offenbach - Hanau, lines RE50 51 55 with DostoCabcar ... crazy, textures the train and the cockpit blurred
    Maybe the service on the S8 was just a coincidence, that it was ok :)
     
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    DTG Harry Community Manager Staff Member

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    Does the cockpit blurring happen regardless of the loco or is it specific to a location/service? Curiosity mostly, but any extra clues that might be useful and I can hand it over to dev.
     
  6. vendys#6021

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    Blurring of the cockpit, especially the control label in the cockpit, occurs mainly when using zoom, but then there are situations when it is blurred even in the basic view. What seems to me as an accelerator is the use of external cameras during the drive.

    I mostly drive with Dosto Car, BR146, Vectrons (any variant), BR101 (no expert, expert have not), ICE 1, ICE 3, BR111 and occasionally BR103.

    In addition to BR111 and BR103, the driver's labels tend to blur. BR111 is mostly blurred by the orange value of the power level. BR103, on the other hand, blurs the texture of the entire dashboard.

    I didn't try ICE-T on the Frankfurt Fulda map much then, I can't answer there now, but I'll try it over the weekend

    What's really scary is the only service with ICE3 on the map Frankfurt - Fulda, I think it's at 5:52 from Frankfurt to Hanau, there the labels in the cockpit blur around Offenbach and then also the external textures, but really good, you can see the inscription ICE and then I'll write it in the green bar.

    But as we already wrote, the service S8 Offenbach - Hanau with BR423, clean sharp etc

    What practically always causes blurring in the first stage are the upper stripes of the Dostos trains.

    But when the service starts and it doesn't matter in which station, for example in Frankfurt, Hanau, Dresden, etc., I mean the big stations, everything is sharp and clean, problems occur and then during the service......

    So I need the knowledge to help me somehow, thank you and greetings
     
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    vendys#6021 Well-Known Member

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    I tested the ICE-T on the Frankfurt Hbf - Fulda service, and already around Offenbach there was a blurring of both the cockpit and a strong blurring of the train's external textures.
    Unfortunately, I achieved similar results when spawning the ICE-T service Riesa - Dresden when approaching Dresden Neustadt station
     
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  8. vendys#6021

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    On the Riesa-Dresden line, it gets blurry even with the ICE3 service
     
  9. Trainiac

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    Was gonna open up a new thread but never mind. I’m also experiencing problems, this was a rare occurrence on Cathcart before the update but now the 380 looks like this even in clear weather IMG_2596.jpeg
     
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  10. Richard CZE

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    In the driver's cabin, the bug blurs only some textures. Icons for switches and labels. Texts on monitors will remain sharp. The outer textures of the train become blurred. The exterior lettering is illegible and the stripes are blurry. It is very unpleasant to watch. I noticed the error on both German and English DLCs. On the Frankfurt - Fulda DLC, a bug causes all objects on the map to blur, including all trains. The error often manifests itself in places where there are greater demands on memory, or when the weather changes from sunny to cloudy, or rain. I own TSW5 deluxe edition on Playstation5. I'm planning to go back to TSW4, it has its bugs, but it's playable. TSW 5 is a big disappointment for me.
     
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  11. vendys#6021

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    I returned to TSW4 a week ago, but if you carefully focus on the details, you'll find that it's happening there too, even in Dresden (DRA) or Salzburg....... I haven't tested the latter.... ..

    It certainly didn't happen in TSW4 in the past, I suspect the latest Suspension update for TSW4, which also broke the steering in BR185.2

    And there is a question whether the simultaneous installation of TSW4 and TSW5 does not break TSW4 as well, see the famous "shared" addon, according to the administrator of the addon

    They are totally annoyed by it ..... even though I am definitely testing the layer settings on TSW5, where the smearing has improved, but once it is ok and then it is smeared again, it also depends on the time, and what exactly it is where it meets .. ....
     
  12. Richard CZE

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    Hi, After today's update, the texture problem has improved a bit. Blurry textures are trying to be fixed. The theory that this texture problem could be caused by Dosto cars may be true.

    IMG_0165.jpeg IMG_0164.jpeg
     
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    I don't see much improvement... a while ago I finished service 4507 with 114 from Fulda to Frankfurt Hbf and from Hanau we are all blurry... and that's like 30 layers off

    I can see it in the Dostos...where they are, there are problems...Dresden, Salzburg...etc but I keep repeating myself
    But it could just be a theory
     
  14. cloudyskies21

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    Blurry graphics still a major issue - I'm on Series X. This, and the video memory errors etc, is really starting to ruin my overall enjoyment of TSW now... :|
     
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    Remains the same on PS5 after yesterday's patch
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    At Glasgow Central
    Cathcart Circle Line: Glasgow – Neilston & Newton IMG_0556.jpeg
     
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    The problems still persist ......
     
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    What I’d like to know is what exactly is going on here? If memory serves, this issue suddenly started appearing after a patch in TSW4 (or was it 3?), got patched out again at some point, and now it’s back with a vengeance worse than ever before. What’s causing this? Why is it fixed and then somehow unfixed again?
     
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    My guess. This error can be caused by bad generation of LOD textures. In order to save performance, distant objects have textures at a lower resolution. The error is that the game displays these textures with a low resolution even for close objects. That's the mistake. The error can occur because demanding scenes do not fit into RAM. High resolution textures are known to take up the most VRAM. The engine at least tries to display textures in low resolution. The problem with consoles is that they have CPU and GPU ram shared. So we were told about a friend who works in graphics.
     
  20. vendys#6021

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    Then I would have to wait, that in the case of switching the settings from 4K to HD resolution, there will be some change.....that occurs to me, but that it has no influence on it.....

    Then it really depends on what the person is driving, how long they are driving, etc... and maybe also what the weather is like outside... the actual weather outside :)
     
  21. vendys#6021

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    I would say that the Rosenheim-Salzburg route has gotten worse, it gets blurry after crossing the border, it's worst at the container transshipment point and then somehow it lasts more or less all the way to Salzburg. Services with BR111 and Dostos.
    If I drive OBB 4024 only in the section Freilassing - Salzburg, I would say that it is practically ok
     
  22. Richard CZE

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    This bug has already been fixed once on this DLC. This will be a core TSW5 gameplay issue and not a lack of performance. TSW 5 is still in paid beta.
     
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    IMG_8709.jpeg

    Drove one of the Railtours on Cathcart with the Class 37. And had the blurry problem coming into Glasgow.
     

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    This is a big test of TSW5 user's patience on the PS5 platform .....
     
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    Is it just me or all trains that are red or have red o them look pink. It seems like the red isn’t truly red at least for me it’s closer to a pink
     
  26. fabienlimp95

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    We have those "LOD" issues since at least TSW4. Sorey but it has got a bit embarrassing. Also asking the forum if things got fixed when this should actually already been tested BEFORE releasing an update doesn't really give the feel that DTG is still "above" this whole thing. Dont really know what is going on but with this record im not holding my breath for substantial improvements in any near future. Or at all.
     
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    I'm also afraid that it will remain unfixed ...... today's reaction in the Patch3 Feedback thread, when it was locked by DTG, can also be interpreted differently ..... one is not far from pressing the DELETE button
     
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    Yesterday's patch did not solve anything in this direction again......
     
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    I haven’t played TSW 5 in a good while. Too many issues for it to be enjoyable at the moment. If DTG ever get it up to a decent standard, I might have another delve into it. I’m just bewildered at how issues keep recurring, how patches don’t actually patch things, or break other stuff and why it takes so long for things to be sorted out.
     
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    So, reports are coming in that the PS5 Pro suffers from the same issues and doesn’t alleviate any blurring, which leads me to doubt that the performance itself causes the blurring.

    Are the devs aware of this, DTG Harry? Is there any progress you can share?

    The blurring is not just a visual annoyance after all. Those of us driving with minimal or no HUD need to be able to reliably see the cab and the instruments.
     
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    As someone who often plays without the HUD I can only second this. The Expert 101 basically becomes unusable with the blurred textures because you can‘t recognise the switches.
     
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    Hey folks, going to respond to a few things at once on this thread!
    Firstly, Patch 3 thread was closed as there have been other updates since then, and it was starting to get muddied with issues from either before Patch 3, or with updates afterwards. There is another user created thread that focuses on patch feedback which is open.

    Secondly, more or Lamplight - this is actually really useful information. Given the PS5 Pro is brand new, we haven't had any reports until now about the texture, so I can take this to dev to offer further insight.

    Lastly, our dev team have this as a high priority, but as with all things software; it's sometimes difficult to pinpoint an issue. We'll update you when we can, but please be assured that we are working on this and as soon as we have an update, we'll be able to update you. You've been incredibly patient and that is hugely appreciated across the board!
     
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    I played Tharandter Rampe since a long time and there is the blurry texture bug too.
     
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    Bad news, according to the roadmap there will be no solution to this problem until next year. But at least they're working on it...
     
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    The repair is being worked on. The repair will not be done this year. I have to wait half a year for a repair after the release and maybe they will fix it? You can't watch blurry textures on a big TV. So the only solution for me, the owner of the expensive TSW5 license, is to delete this shoddy software. The only positive thing is that it frees up 260GB of memory on my console.
     
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    ...... it doesn't even make sense to comment .... a waste of money for TSW and all addons
     
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    For a temporary fix idea is not to use the map often or use the out side cameras it may work. It may also help out with crashes
     
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    I also came up with a temporary solution. Only run trains in the dark. There aren't many trains running at night and those ugly textures aren't visible. Then wait for a fix in the form of TSW6 or TSW7.
     
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    There is also a solution that is 100%, delete it and don't drive at all ....... sad story
     
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    I figured I'd come in here to point out that over the last few days I've put multiple runs up and down the new Just Trains WCML route, and despite it being one of the biggest routes in TSW, with tons of unique scenery assets and multiple layers, I have had ZERO instances of the blurry texture issue. This is a good sign IMO. If JT can make a route that manages to not eat massive amounts of ram despite being one of the most detailed and longest routes in the game, surely DTG can figure out a way to work around this issue on their routes.
     
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    The question is whether the problem is the scenery as such, I think that there is a bigger problem in the design of the traffic and the type of train ...... how many DLC layers does the new map you mention have? Have you all the additional DLC layers?
     
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    Hi,

    Do you think it might be related to the number of DLC installed? When right after release of TSW5 I played Frankfurt-Fulda on Xbox Series X apart small lagging haven't seen major texture issues. Back then I downloaded just TSW5 base routes. Now that I downloaded all DLC (I own ~90% of them) and tried "continue on foot" after completing journey to find the maps for route tasks, found they look terrible. Also train livery details seem very low-res. Store section is unable to load at all with so many DLCs. I did not use map view or external camera that are known to leak some memory. Not sure whether bad textures are result of all DLC I downloaded or there was some patch that regressed texture problem.
    It would be silly to delete all downloaded DLC just to figure out it does not improve the texture blur problem.

    Dainis
     
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    I occasionally get it when loading in the game or coming back in cab view from external.
     
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    Blurry textures on Bahnstecke Salzburg Rosenheim. Definitely from use external views
     

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    You need to take into account how many addons you have installed because on the tsw4 ps4 version i have quite a few and the graphics are blurry and that's to do with the console having to load all of the addons when you boot up the game, so the more addons you have installed the more the graphics are going to be blurry because of the amount of power the console needs to work harder
     
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    On PS5 it worked under TSW4 with all DLC layers, on TSW5 it started to blur...... it became very modern to say that there is a bug in the console's performance .... I see the bug in the software
    And I think, I see BR101 expert in the picture ... with that the problems are getting worse in this direction
     
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    By add-ons do you mean the total map in TSW5 or add-on layers for a given map?
     
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    Possibly but I think the more important data is how many DLC are activated at a time by route layers.

    For example I have a ton of DLC installed (most of it) but I still NEVER see blurred textures on some routes, like San Bernardino, Antelope Valley, Boston Worcester…

    Then other routes I will get it every time - German routes which have a ton of different trains active seem to be the worst offendets, Frankfurt Fulda, Dresden Riesa, etc. ECML was also bad for it but I haven’t tried that one for a while.
     
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    I don't believe it's just a memory issue. DLC Salzburg - Rosenheim, worked on PS5 in TSW4, with all layers without a problem. On TSW5 the textures are blurry. Same DLC, same hardware and new TSW5 game with lots of bugs. And no new information on the progress of the fixes yet.
     
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    In addition, the Semmering map, the fully occupied Wiener Neustadt freight station, or the Vorarlbergbahn and the fully occupied Wolfurt freight station and there are no problems there or I was unlucky with them ..... :|

    And I'm currently driving in the new map Preston - Carlisle, again full DLC layers and the problems are not noticeable...... yes, sometimes it takes a few seconds before it loads, about 3-5 seconds when switching external cameras, but it doesn't stay blurry

    That's why I think claiming that it's just a console is considered an alibi. :|
     

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