Signal Problems On Frankfurt High Speed

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  1. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Coming out of Frankfurt Hbf you climb to the bridge and the signal protecting the junction is Red if you cannot proceed but changes to Black when Clear.
    Screenshot_Frankfurt High Speed_50.09358-8.63052_12-18-30.jpg

    Further down near Frankfurt Stadion there are Repeater Signals before the Junction which show Green/Yellow even if the Junction signal Red
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    I tried to select these signals to check the links but I could not for some reason

    Any solution to this?

    Peter
     
  2. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Well-Known Member

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    No. Just another unfixed “all lights on” broken dtg signal.
     
  3. Spikee1975

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    That is usually down to the script not being correct or not accessible. Which can happen if you put signals into an .ap file whose scripts are referencing other scripts via "Include" - that's why for example the Karlsuhe-Strasbourg signals are not ap'd. Of course checking the links may resolve this.

    I take it this only happens in freeroam?
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    No. I was driving out of Frankfurt towards Mannheim got to the signals above, though the next was clear and almost had a spad.
    I was trying to click on the signals in the editor to see the links but I could not pick either signal
     
  5. Spikee1975

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    Then the .bin of that signal has the <Pickable> flag set to false. Devs do that sometimes to not accidentally move placed objects.

    Any scenario you can recommend for quick testing?
     
  6. Kim Olesen

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    Just do the regular Quick Drive.
     
  7. Spikee1975

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    Signal repeater for your track is correct on that location (FF Stadion 505). The left track signal should be Vr0, but that's often wrong in DTG signalling. But your own distant shows the correct aspect. (They don't if you start a scenario directly from the editor though)

    2024-11-03 23_24_08-Train Simulator (x64).png

    Peter, I can select the signal...
    2024-11-03 23_26_32-Train Simulator (x64).png
     
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    I did not get the correct aspect on the scenario I tried and almost passed the Hp signal at Red.
    The second time I did a Free Roam from FFM and got the same signal result.

    Doing a default Scenario would not have kept the Hp junction Signal on Red.
     
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    I created a Standard Scenario where two different BR 425 units followed each other out of the Hbf
    The first left and I was timed 10 mins in FFM Stadion so I would get stopped at the junction before
    My driver train left a min later and was stopped at Niederad and the signal would not clear -
    even though there was nothing between me and the next signal
    So I used F8 and went down to the junction and both Repeater signals are Green and both Stop signals are red
    Screenshot_Frankfurt High Speed_50.07191-8.64171_12-13-20.jpg

    I would delete the Repeater signals but I still cannot select them
    Could it be because I extracted them from the AP file?
    I will delete them all and see
     
  10. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    I managed to solve the problem as the Tracks.bin was read only for some reason
    Changing that to Read Only meant I could edit the signals.

    I removed them as they are just a short distance repeater
     
  11. Spikee1975

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    Peter the "Axe" :)
     
  12. knuckleshed

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    I wonder if the track links were facing the wrong way on the repeaters or something?
     
  13. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

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    No. If you look at Spikes picture in post #7 they are correct
     

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