Hi. I found a timetable issue on SEHS. I have installed TSW 5 with the following DLCs on my old PS4: SEHS Extended Class 700 ROG Class 37/5 Cargo Line: Petroleum Cargo Line: Aggregates and RHTT When playing the game, I have noticed that there are no AI trains of Classes 375 and 465 (apart from the 465 services between Sittingbourne and Sheerness-on-Sea). No running trains, no static stock, e.g. at Gillingham Depot. The Class 66 freight services, Class 395 services and Class 700 services are present as normal, as far as I can see. I have not checked whether this problem is specific to PS4.
I have tried several services. 465, 700, 66. I have now deleted the game, re-installed and tried the different add-ons one by one. It appears that the Class 700 add-on for TSW 5 is broken and makes the 375 and 465 AI trains disappear.
DId some more investigations now. Dear DTG, I hate to say it but SEHS is seriously broken, at least on PS4. Even if you do not install the Class 700. If you spawn in a 465, there are no freight trains. No static stock at Hoo Junction, nothing. If you spawn in a 66, there are no 375 and 465. I can only guess but in my opinion the entire system of layers is broken. See my thread on Frankfurt Fulda. It cannot be that this only happens to me. It cannot, scientifically speaking.
I checked the same configuration as above with TSW 4 and the route is completely packed with everything that should be there. So it is definitely an issue with TSW 5.
I have TSW5 and a ps5 and no issues. All layers appearing and working as normal, maybe it’s a issue with your PS4.
Yes, it is. I have PS4 and PS5 - in different places, obviously. On PS5, everything is fine. On PS4, the route is basically empty.
Deleted everything and reinstalled TSW4 with the same DLCs. Everything is there. So, this must be an issue with TSW5 on PS4 only.
This is what the timetable at Dartford station looks when spawning in a 465. PLOxzreVg--tgy6p17COFDJ9_IylihRuqg by li150special posted Nov 30, 2024 at 5:02 PM _4CVDFFZu1NlZd9XBeuGHQINdWbgg7xu7w by li150special posted Nov 30, 2024 at 5:02 PM If you spawn on foot, however, tere are NO trains scheduled. I repeat, just in case it did not become clear. No trains. Just Sim World. EwEX6cEyth8fk6jw-xpK990lfnfsTQNDcg by li150special posted Nov 30, 2024 at 5:02 PM Dkskr9g_62vMcRk-dvP9CpvJnLkFuWX2tg by li150special posted Nov 30, 2024 at 5:02 PM Similarly, with the Class 700 installed, no 465 services from Dartford anymore. Only the 700s. I mean, really? XTFIvvH45kfcorM1g_ubcBIusjy_v1pCnA by li150special posted Nov 30, 2024 at 5:02 PM TRzxKRo8O7BpZ_6rhrwu3shvPJr7mXxeWg by li150special posted Nov 30, 2024 at 5:02 PM This is getting a bit shocking.
I'm afraid the attachments don't work - I'm not sure what format they're in either... why are they separated links?
Can you see them now? I am not very familiar with the media system here. I had to upload them to an album first.
I can see them now, and it is a big problem indeed! Since you are on PS4, there are no mods to conflict with the game. It is almost certainly a bug. If someone else with a PS4 could come and confirm that they are also experiencing this, that would be great. Definitely send a support ticket (with the screenshots) if you haven't done so already.
Thank you. I have in fact submitted a ticket and sent the above screenshots. It would be great if other PS4 users would confirm whether they are experiencing this or similar issues.
I’ve got this problem as well. I don’t have the 700 but whenever I start a service in the 395, the only available services are the high speed ones. Whenever I start in a 375, there are no 465 services. Whenever I start in a 465 there are no 375 services. When I spawn on foot, there are only 395 services. There are no Medway AI, in all cases. Isle of Sheppey AI only available on foot and when starting 395 service. Clearly a layers issue, hopefully it’s fixed promptly.
Dear DTG team, has this been fixed? I would rather not delete and reinstall everything just to find out that the issue still persists and I delete everything again. Thank you.
This could also be a layer limitation for the PS4 instead of a bug to ensure enough performance even with the tiny 8GB RAM memory.
I don't think I had this issue when I played on PS4 - OP, apologies if you've already done this, but have you checked all the layers are selected in the layer tool? If not, probably is unfortunately a bug. It would be really odd if DTG removed the layers for PS4 without saying, but nothing is impossible I suppose.
Yes, of course. All layers are selected. I honestly do not think that this is a feature in order to save memory. First, the 375 and the 465 are part of the route's core layers. Second, there was a similar issue in TSW 4 (which is documented here in the forums) and in TSW 3, the layers are present.
I suppose I should chime in and say that, yes, this is a universal PS4 issue. DTG wouldn't have turned off layers on the route as I haven't seen any reports of similar issues from Xbox gen 8 console users.
Hi, I’m on a PS4 playing TSW5 and can confirm this issues are happening to me as well. I just noticed it because I just played SEHS again this weekend
there is the same problem on KWG,SKA with MSB,layers,Br 423 too,HRR with Dosto layers and Br 101 layers ,for rest of route idk oh dresden riesa too
Hello DTG Harry DTG Jamie DTG JD. I just wanted to check in whether there is any progress on this issue. It seems to affect quite a number of players on PS4, as can be seen in the links below. It would be really great if SEHS Extended (an excellent route, I have to say) could be enjoyed in full on Gen8 again. Thank you for your consideration. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/sehs-timetable-mode.89611/ https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/southeastern-issue.88088/ https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/missing-class-700-and-rog-37.71780/ https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/missing-class-700-ai-on-sehs.71882/ https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...00-0-feedback-thread.71484/page-6#post-677535
Good afternoon, Thank you for raising this, we are aware of the issue and internal tickets have been raised. Unfortunately we don't have an estimated resolution timeline yet, but we will keep you updated. Thank you for your patience and support. All the best, Jan
Hello Jan i don't if there is any news on this bug I have a list of train broke the Layers -First Br 423 (SKA journey pack) - Br 101 (HHR) loco addons - Class 700 + 37 loco addons pack the TT have this problem SKA new TT on Gen 8 console , HHR (there is this problem from TSW 5 not in 4 and i think you need too invistagate the setting Layers because i'm suspect it broke a lot of train layers with addons loco DE or UK : Ferrovipathe67
One might add the missing 700 AI on ECML (Peterborough) on Gen8, unless that layer was removed delibeately.
In order to be able to play SEHS Extended on my PS4, I have gone back to TSW3. There, the 375, 465 and 700 work together without an issue. BUT on TSW3 there are other issues: The 37/7 ROG only appears as static loco at Gillingham. The AI services dragging 375s do not appear. Neither do the white 375. The Spirit of Steam railtour does not appear as AI. As I am writing this, I notice it is probably pointless because a TSW3 route is not going to be updated/patched. Still, using TSW3 may give a better playing experience with the 700 doing its thing. I do not definitely need the bells and whistles of TSW4 or TSW5, I want variety and a busy route.
I was having a similar issue on my PS4 pro and found that a little toggling of the layers in the 'reduced' timetable and I was able to get the SEHS stock and DLC to appear at once. Start with turning off the MML/TGV and TVL layers at St Pancras, then do the following depending on what you are playing. a) If playing 395 (HS1/Faversham) turn off the AI railtours and the Ashford AI - 375/700/465/66/37 will appear as normal. b) if playing 700/375/465/66/37, turn off the Ashford AI layers, AI railtours and HS1 static stock and all trains will appear as normal. c) if playing 395 (HS1 only) turning off the AI railtours as well as the ROG and the summer Kent services will have everything as normal. This worked for me when playing on a PS4 pro.
Thank you for all your efforts. I have been through this and that on SEHS: It is my favourite route but it has become virtually unplayable on Gen8. To be honest, I am tired of trying different combinations of DLCs that don't break stuff (as we know, on PS4 you cannot uninstall DLCs, you have to delete and reinstall everything, which takes hours). My current solution is to play TSW 3 (three) with SEHS, the 700, LGV, the RHTT and GWE for some AI). Heck, even NTP with the heavy freight pack makes the 700 disappear. Why? This layer system and add-on manager are a complete train wreck.
The class 700/801/350/390 are the layers I always disable on other routes if I can help it as they are rather large memory hogs. I admittedly only own UK (read: England/Scotland) content and so for me to play on SEHS with my layers undisturbed is a tad easier. (PS4 pro may have had a touch more ram) I've upgraded now and so I'm finally free from the memory limit hell of 8th gen but I do feel your pain. I was unable to play BPB at all on TSW5 where I WAS able to on TSW4 and because I was on a PS4 at the time the general consensus was 'poor person problem, upgrade' which isn't always easy to do when a standard PS5 is $700 and a gaming PC is.... Well it's more than $700... Do you play everything on SEHS because you can get a pretty good experience with only turning one or two layers off (ie: 395 @ Ashford if not on HS1) The memory savings of not having to spawn a full depot of AI trains does help. Especially as they're 395s (Loong Boi IETs with a lot simulated)
SEHS is my favourite route (including UK and non-UK) because it is an outlier in DTG's portfolio. It is a relatively long route, but still with a "network" feel to it. It comes with the 395, 375, 465 and 66 as standard. There are (at least in theory or on Gen9) two specific loco DLCs for that route, which give three additional locos: the 37, the white 375 and the RHTT. Not to mention other UK stuff that layers onto it (diesel and steam railtours, freight) and the Cargo Line Aggregates pack. It is exactly this sort of variety that I like in a route. I understand that not everything can be a gem like SEHS. Even if you compare it to ECML, which is not a bad route at all, the SEHS gameplay is at another level (on Gen9). I have both a PS4 and a PS5, upgraded two years ago. I live in two different places during the week and on the weekends, so if I want to enjoy TSW on the weekends I use my old PS4. And you are of course right. There is no point in enabling layers which you will 100% not see during a specific journey. I have to admit that I may be a bit lazy in tweaking the settings for individual runs. I quite like the idea of firing up the game, just selecting a service or spawning on foot and there you go. One might even say that it is the developers' task to make a game as resource-efficient as possible. To me, the current layer system with a wild combination of route and loco add-ons having to be loaded into memory to have maybe one additionael AI train (like the WSR+NTP+Class 20 AI railtour) does not meet this criterion. But I am not an expert.
