Hi y'all! Looking very forward to the dutch route, I am still hoping for the NS 1600/1800 series. It si my favorite train. Now, I really like Nahverkher Drensden too! It includes much trains and it is a long route. Is it a good decision to buy it or can I maybe buy another instead? already thanks for reacting!
Riesa-Dresden in probably the best all-around German route in TSW; all it lacks is high-speed LZB running. (Frankfurt-Fulda might take the crown, but only after the bugs are fixed)
I really like the flying junction on Dresden-Riesa, I don’t even know why, it’s just really satisfying to drive over at line speed. I’ll go back to my corner now.
Riesa Dresden truly is a bit of a gem, it has its faults like its rather "Short" length and the the dresden airport line not being included... but alas, it is really worth it. Now keep in mind, for it to reach its true potential, you may want to think about buying other German routes to obtain those layers. But even without, it is a fairly busy line, lots to do and the scenery is quite well made.
especially with layers and Mkrahe's timetable mod it will be an amazing route. in a couple years with maybe CZ stock even fit for a brighter future with a rework. and if it were in 2024 you could even have some dutch ICNG's sitting in a yard there as I think they do irl now. although that might be the freight yard on the part not ingame
Hi to all, (5 minutes reading) Amsterdam - Roosendaal In my personal opinion I would like to see a much more buzzling route like Amsterdam - Den Haag - Rotterdam - Roosendaal in the 80's with a vast variety of landscapes, fresh green meadows with Duitch style trenches, colourful flower fields, swampy meadows, the famous Dutch sky, Windmills, the old Rotterdam Central Station of the 80's. The Hofplein view in Rotterdam The "Luchtspoor" in Delft and Rotterdam and definitely the famous Bridge "De Hef" which is preserved but static in my hometown. and the large old shunt yard "Rotterdam IJsselmonde" and of corse the new shunt yard "Kijfhoek". with Dutch Classes 1100, 1200, 1300, 2200 and 2400 and Class 11 (Exportversion of Class 08) in Dutch livery with the beautiful brass head lights. The "Hondekop" Mat 54 the 2-set EMU's and the 4-set EMU's including the 2-set Benelux livery with adapted pantograph for running the Belgian Railways and of corse the "Apekop" Mat 64. Also notable is the class 200-300 "Sik" for light shunting purposes. Concerning the Groningen - Zwolle Line itself: As mentioned above I would like to see the "Apekop" EMU Mat 64 and the famous "Hondenkop" EMU Mat 54 coming (Either the other mentioned locomotives as well of corse). These famous trains served the route until the Koploper took over. Never the less the Koploper should be released in the original factory design by meaning of a working walk-through at the head of the Koploper which is now being scrapped since the last major overhaul. Also at Onnen there are a lot of freight services. When the Route becomes available now the Railpool Vectron might work the freight trains on the route as well. In the early days the Koploper were assembled and disconnected mainly at Utrecht and Zwolle with connections between Den Haag and Rotterdam and the North of the Netherlands to Leeuwarden and Groningen. The high seated Cab was to establish the corridor between the Koploper EMU's whilst running. To (un)couple the EMU's it took some effort to do so. It was always watched by the public on the platform who stands nearby the (un)coupling process. The Koploper and the ICR carriages: As mentioned by coentrainfan#7502 I would like to add some more. The Koploper carriages were also the main design of the famous ICR carriages now running in their last days before scrapping. These carriages runs between Amsterdam - Breda and Amsterdam- Brussel sandwiched by the class 186 in Dutch livery. The service between Amsterdam - Breda will remain a bit longer but the service between Amsterdam and Brussel is now taken over by the new ICNG and the Belgian variant class 186 with I11 carriages. In addition to the suggestion of coentrainfan#7502 I would like to see a class 1600/1800 with these ICR carriages. Hauled trains -by the way- were mainly the backbone of "long distance" services between Amsterdam / Zandvoort aan Zee and Maastricht. Though an other nice attention is this: the ICR came in the early 80's after the development of the Koploper was finished. The ICR carriages were also hauled between Den Haag and Cologne via Rotterdam, Eindhoven, Venlo, Kaldenkirchen (Germany) and Mönchen-Gladbach (Germany) These so called "Buurtlandtreinen" Contains primarily German Bm and the Dutch ICR stock. These trains were frequently hauled by the refurbished and famous Class 77 (NS 1500) I have seen these engines running on daily base. I was at High School near the Hofplein in the early 80's in the center of Rotterdam and had a good view at the "Luchtspoor" bridge and frequently saw the NS 1500 (Class 77) working these services. At Venlo, engine exchange took place and primarily a German class 110 or 111 worked the last lap to Cologne. The ICR's were favourite by the German travellers and personnel due to the low noise abilities and stylish orange seats the carriages contains. ICE 406 and ATB Now this route is coming, I hope they also make an upgrade on the ICE 406 with a working ATB. The ATB dashboard is present in the Cab at the right side of the 406 but is static only due to the fact that ATB is not applied in Germany. I would love to see the ICE 406 working the route between Zwolle and Groningen as an special or extra train with a working ATB. Foreign and 3rd party rolling stock at the route Groningen - Zwolle: Getting back to Groningen - Zwolle the German Class 218 was also present as well running freight trains on the route. In the early 80's some older types like the Class 215-216 in the Old Whine Red livery and Turkoise Cream livery were continuous present at Groningen working forensic trains during peak hours between Groningen and Zwolle. These older variants worked mainly with Plan E carriages. These engines were leased for a certain period from the German Federal Railway to help the shortage of engines in that time in the northern part of the Netherlands. Now a days the class 204 can also do the job, while the present class 204 runs in different liveries except the "Verkehsrot" livery from the German Federal Railway. When it comes that far there is a variety of consists of trains possible on the route as well with the named engines in order to have some different trains on the route itself. Building freight consists: When you set up your own consists here are some notes to mention: Freight trains can be hauled with the German Class 186 with 4 panto's, Class 193 Railpool with 4 panto's, for both engines please use the inner pantographs which are suited for DC power at the overhead. The NS runs mainly at 1.5 kV DC, Further more Class 204, Class 218, Class 363. Concerning British Rolling Stock a Class 08 would do great in Dutch livery as well. In the case of TSW5 the green Class 08 from the WSR would do a nice job as well. It will give some flash back in history. The Dutch Class 08 in green livery was a bit different but but the green WSR Class 08 is a nice alternative to shunt around at Onnen shunt yard. Anyway the 1st Dutch route will approach soon I hope. Best regards, Steamtrains Unlimited
wow nice suggestions! Now we have the vectron and bmz's, they can maybe make a route from the netherlands to germany wwhit the nightjet vectron whit NS livery loco. I downloaded some liveris so now I made my own NS nightjet
some nice suggestions. an incredible amount of stock needed means it most likely will take 4 years to see daylight but I am willing to wait for that. I personally expect the suggested 2 other dutch ideas for a route to be more modern instead of in the 80's though. I hope they get some freight into it as I recall there was said there will be no to only some AI freight. and usually local freight is very lacking on a route unless it's the only thing existing. That 406 is very old and would be nice to see it reworked for when a route somewhere between Amsterdam and Arnhem shows up, the Nightjet runs there too of course. to add to the freight I have in the last years next to DB vectron's seen a lot of DB 189's on the trains to the steel industry (and the occaisional 1700/1800 from various companies)
the 1700 and 1800 series are better to add, they are ussually used in germany and in france ( if france ever is coming, THey are used everywhere there) so that will be a nice loco
For me Köln - Amsterdam with ICE, Nightjet, RE 19 Düsseldorf - Arnhem, and a lot of freight traffic between Oberhausen and Emmerich would be the ultimate add-on.
