Instant Gaming Tsc Purchase Problem & List Of Add Ons I Should Get

I don't know where you got the reskin from, but there is the possibility that it's just how the reskin is. It wouldn't be the first inaccurate reskin in TS.

 

I think you might need to stick with the more basic stuff before adding enhancements...get used to how things work, how .bin files work with .GeoPcDx files and how those .Geos work with .TgPcDx files. Now there's a subject for a new thread.....


Oh... and learn how to deal with one issue at once...your call, what do you want us to advise on?

 

I can't work out why you have a gold stripe anyway...



just which coaches did you place on the track?...as in what are the file paths and names?... have you used the Mk3s from Ben's GC pack?

Cyclone...the reskins are from Major Wales, https://www.major.wales/home

 

it is from major wales. Its where i got the TfW and GC reskin for the mk4. For GC sets its coach G.



Both are meant to be POD coaches (or aka first class coaches) and on GC and ex-GC coaches. Its meant to have a gold door. But apparently no matter what I do. i tried deleting the GC files from DTG and MJW files from asset then reinstalling them. It still aint getting the gold doors to show. Why am i getting the wrong texture.

Hello even the picture from MjW themselves shows the gold door. (the coach behind the DVT)

 

Will you let us get 1 sorted before jumping to another?...you're in danger of making this hard work!

Did you run the .bat file which edits the coach to use the reworked texture?



At least we now know why that coach's .Geo is reworked.

 

yes i did.

 

...and did you run it when you deleted and reinstalled?..how sure are you that it ran fully?

EDIT: Have you installed TS Tools?

 

I have installed TS Tools yes.

As for the deletes. I only deleted the files that are called "ex-GC" and "GC" and honestly i cant tell rather or not are they fully ran. I assume so because the install worked/successful.

 

It didn't...you haven't got gold doors on coach G.

Can you open the Assets\DTG\Class91Pack02\RailVehicles\Passenger\MK4\GC\MK4_FOD\MK4_FOD_L.GeoPcDx file with it?

 

i think it can? this is what its showing.

 

Yes, that's what you should see....confusing isn't it?
Don't worry, it only looks confusing, the bits we deal with are all in normal words.

Scroll down a little bit, it's just the next section down and you'll see:

<TextureByName>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">..\mk4_fo\textures\[00]mk4_fo</e>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">..\..\Default\mk4_tso\textures\[00]mk4_nm</e>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">..\mk4_fo\textures\[00]mk4_fo</e>


This is the bit the Geomod should change, to make the game use the revised texture for that particular coach.

It should look like:

<TextureByName>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">textures\[00]mk4_a</e>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">..\..\..\Default\mk4_tso\textures\[00]mk4_nm</e>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">textures\[00]mk4_a</e>

You only have 2 lines to change, and the change is only deleting a bit of the text--the ..\mk4_fo\ bit.
Change those 2 lines, save the file (top menu bar, File> Save) and you should now have gold doors on the coach.

 

i went ahead and did just scroll down a bit, the closest thing to i can see is this script. Is this the part i need to change?

from mk4_tso to mk4_fo ?
i tried doing ctrl+f to do keyword search and theres no FO mentioning at all.

 

<TextureByName>
<e d:type="cDeltaString">textures\[00]mk4_a</e>
(<e d:type="cDeltaString">leave this bit alone</e>)<-----do not edit this middle line
<e d:type="cDeltaString">textures\[00]mk4_a</e>


Don't worry about the indentation, it's the wording you need to alter.

 

do i edit it like this?
or in the way you type previously (aka the message i replied to)

 

NO...change the 2 instances of
<e d:type="cDeltaString">..\mk4_tso\textures\[00]mk4_a</e>
to read
<e d:type="cDeltaString">textures\[00]mk4_a</e>

in other words, remove the
..\mk4_tso\
bit

 

To try and clarify/explain...

What ..\mk4_tso\textures\[00]mk4_a does is tell TSC to go up one level in the folder tree (..\) then go into the mk4_tso folder, then the textures folder and lastly use the mk4_a texture.

What the change does is make the game load the revised mk4_a texture that's been installed to the coach's own textures folder.

 

ah i see.
As for the save, do i pick "save TS2020" or "save TS Classic file as"?

 

save TS2020 file

 

right i clicked that. And i assume now i rerun the .bat file or it should be fixed now?

 

i checked in the game and yes! it worked!!

So i guess next up would be trying to fix the ex-GC ones?

 

Yeah...it's basically the same procedure, just getting rid of the stuff before \[00]mk4_a

 

okay awesome, i have fixed everything now. both carriages have gold doors now.

 

Well done...it's taken a lot of people much longer to get the hang of that than it has you!

 

does it now? It does look quite a simple script change.

Unsure is this an issue or something, but when i was trying to form a consist with the MjW GC Class 90 and Mk4s. For some reason the DVT just isnt in the list of selectable trains to be put on a consist. I have no idea why because the 90 and mk4 i can place down.

 

It should show as MK4 DVT Grand Central in the list of available items

 

never mind i found it thanks. For some reason its listed in the diesel section for some reason.

 

Diesel section?...it's loco section: there's no distinction between diesel, electric, or steam. Even though it's not powered the fact that you can drive it elevates it to loco status, and by default it's classed as electric to suit it's intended partner, the class 91.

 

Yeah, it is...but for years the average UK TSC user has been told that it's too hard/complicated/risky for them to attempt and they're better off leaving it to the *experts*. People have had investigation/trying things beaten out of them.

 

Was the DVT done as a Diesel version to run with the Class 67s?
TfW has acquired a number of Mk4 sets including those originally for Grand Central



Stockport - May 2023

 

Probably Peter, but in the game it makes no odds whether it's denoted as electric or diesel, it displays in the loco section in the available stock list. It's only classed as a loco because it has a cab to drive it from.

 

The Mk3 DVT from AP Waggonz has an Electric version and a Uni(versal) version that can drive any loco.
I was not sure if the Mk4 DVT was set up as Electric and Diesel/Uni(versal) versions?

 

to be fair i'd say you're one haha. You have been a great help. Big cheers.

Yes but the one i mentioned was specific a grand central reskin instead of the Ex-GC reskin which i have also installed. Though it doesnt matter much but still find it somewhat odd that it was put in diesel.

And i did originally wanted to pick up a class 67 steam pack, the one containing the royal train as even with the sale to pounds its like 9 pence (or for me it was 9 HKD). Though my father said no and might as well save those tiny dollars for when i get the proper 67 which can be used for the 67 EP from AP.
At the moment in my calculations I would be planning on getting North Wales Coast line next in the next sale and also containing the 67 and its' EP plus MK2 coaches for whenever AP will do another sale before the end of the year. Unsure would I regret picking them up or should i go and pick a stream loco plus MK1s instead (for some sort of Christmas railtour i can do and stream on YT) and i cant decide between the 2 options.

 

Where are you looking for this Diesel section?

The default is set to Electric, which makes sense as it's part of an electric formation. It doesn't demand changing to diesel to enable it to run on non electrified lines though.

 

Very kind of you but no....I'm just a bloke with a decent memory who's read loads by real experts

 

By the way for those who have own wherry lines from AP. Do you guys like the route? Just simply asking out of curiosity unless i have asked before but i may or may not have forgot.

 

It's nicely done; possibly over-hyped by the AP fanatics though. It can be a bit limited scenario wise, there's only so many times a top and tailed Mk2 rake can be driven before you want something else.
I can't think of a single reason not to buy it, the biggest conundrum is whether to get it direct from AP or through Steam....personally I'd go straight to AP unless it was available from Steam at an unmissable price. If you went for the Steam version, AP offer a patch to take it to the latest version for about £7.00 so weigh up all the options before purchasing.

 

I really like Wherry Lines - it's the only route I have learnt properly and so can drive it without using the HUD.

 

Wherry Lines is well made and nicely captures the flat rural fenlands feel. Because of its geography it only has a few minor gradients, so it's not hard to drive. I holidayed in the area a few years a go and the scenery modelling is generally very accurate, but with a number of simplifications where standard assets are used to represent what are fairly distinctive buildings IRL, but if you don't know what they really look like you won't be bothered.

The one obvious thing (to me) that looks wrong is that boats on the rivers and broads are all masted sailing craft. In reality there are a few masted boats, but the majority are powered cabin cruisers. A small thing perhaps, but it distracts me.

However, it is a route I enjoy driving. It's a calming route that doesn't need a lot of concentration, but it has the feel of being well put together. Its extensive semaphore signalling and mostly historic railway buildings makes it feel a bit like a heritage railway, but without the speed restrictions. For that reason you can use it as a pretend BR steam route, if you close one eye.

 

hm, then i might consider picking up Island line route to complete the route requirement for Wherry Lines that I bought from Wherry line way long ago. (I know i can swap assets but still).

On another topic/question. Earlier I did mention about having trouble picking between class 67, it's EP and MK2 from AP, and a steam loco with mk1 from AP.
Which one would be a better purchase for Christmas?

My planned usage for the class 67 is hauling MK3s/Mk4s around Wales route and at the moment planned to use it on crewe to holyhead (which i plan on buying during next sale). And routes that runs across in wales which i would buy in the future. (I think it was wales marsh and south wales mainline, + Hope Valley Line for the manchester to stockport route for if i want to opearte that TfW service between cardiff and manchester). With Mk2 coaches for railtours and some top and tail formations with diesel locos.

The other option is getting MK1 from AP is used the same as the MK2 for running railtours. (And probs match better to run steam railtours?) As for the steam locomotive, I am honestly unsure what to pick from 3 options i have here. SR Bullied Light Pacific from Precision Loco Development, LNER A4 from Caledonia Works and Modified Hall from steam sounds supreme. To add on I remember earlier on this thread when i first revealed my bucket list of what to get for TSC. Somebody mention that someone was making a new Hall. I asked who but I never got the answer for who was making said new Hall. if anybody got info on that would be great.
Apart from the 3 locos i am unsure what is a good steam loco to run steam railtours. Hoping to get one and MK1 coaches for doing something like a christmas railtour.

 

Any of the passenger locos by Bossman would be a good choice for a steam loco. They come with various driver assist levels, which you'll need if you aren't used to steam. They are complex models. If you want something straightforward then the A2 Blue Peter should be cheap in a sale and it's been modelled with simpler auxiliary controls.

 

That's an expensive way to get 5 or 6 miles of track to run Cardiff - Manchester services on

 

i just looked at steam and apparently they also have JT's Hope Valley. So i can buy there instead.

 

Never buy JustTrains routes on Steam, especially the GWML and MML routes. The most important reason is that the routes can't be merged. If you buy on JT's website, you can get extensions for it (such as the Hope Valley Line) and build a huge network. The Steam versions can't do this, and have less content and worse scenarios.

 

oh i see. Actually is hope valley line part of any sort of big merge routes by JT (soon?).

 

on the hand, i have decided to update my bucket list

I am still deciding on rather to get the class 67 with its ep and Mk2 from AP or now, Black 5, Bulleid Light Pacific and Mk1 from steam, PLD and AP when buying alongside North Wales Coast Line.

 

Yes, Midland Main line, but to just get Hope Valley to run TfW services between Stockport and Manchester is expensive. I'm sure we covered JT's full bundle in here, or maybe in the sales thread, but at the time is was pitched at a fantastic price for what you get. {its £70 at the moment for the base route plus all 7 extensions to it--think of it as being under a tenner for each route and it's very tempting.)

If you want to run 67+Mk4s TfW services, Welsh Marches and/or North Wales gives you a good run. Deciding which of the 2 routes is best would make an interesting discussion.

 

You could only operate the Cardiff - Manchester service from Cardiff to Shrewsbury and Stockport to Manchester (7 miles)
Shrewsbury to Crewe to Stockport does not exist in the game
This map will help to see where you can run.
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/train-simulator-classic-2024_940885#8/52.580/-2.032

 

Having had a look at the list, if you're getting Edinburgh to Glasgow just for the 170 you may be better off buying the Class 170 pack. This pack is included in the EG route but you might be able to get a discount on the standalone version. However, if you have any interest in the route, get the route and therefore kill two birds with one stone.

As a pointer, the ATS level crossing pack is not a separate pack. It is included with most/every ATS route, so you'll need to get at least one to get the level crossing pack. I am not aware if the Northampton Loop pack includes the level crossing pack, but if it does that would be my recommendation.

 

ah right. didnt know hope valley was part of that. i still need to wait for JT to do sales on them because 60 pounds and 70 pounds = 600 HKD and 700 HKD or probs more in my currency and my budget for buying anything is only 500 HKD and I try keep it that way so my pocket money dont go broke.

thats what I realise during my search on the both routes with looking at the map earlier. I do hope somebody would make Shrewsbury to stockport via crewe route. Speaking of wales route is there a full Cardiff to Holyhead route that the TfW express use to run?

I cant remember why I added Edinburgh to Glasglow route, maybe because back then I thought i need the route to run the class 68 and mk2. But even without it I cant remember why i let it stay in the list-

As for the level crossing pack, is that also in the WCML missing link?
By the way for those who have WCML missing link, is there anyhow I can see the map of the said route? And like not from the google maps representing current TSC routes.