Wcmls Major Update (december 2024)

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  1. Tigert1966

    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    And another as you leave Euston where you go down and under the tracks, as you come off the upward ramp, there is one there as well. Definitely not for a speed decrease as the speed only increases on this section.
     
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  2. DTG Liam

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    The 710/3 won't be on livery editor. It's a custom formation made for the WCML timetable and not an official 710/3.
    The font was changed but I'm guessing it didn't make this update.
     
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  3. selocssor

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    I did receive a update yesterday yes
     
  4. SierraOscar95

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    Exactly this. Also the rusty rails at the terminals is not there, and station PIS screens are still as they were. Pendolino destination boards still incorrect.

    I wonder what's lead to this all, as minus some of the removed layers like freight, and railtours, everything appeared right in the preview images, but is missing the detail in the patch release. Very odd.
     
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  5. marcsharp2

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    Just ask for it to be free
     
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  6. west coastway trains

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    these updates recently seem to be causing more problems than they’re solving. clearly a lack of testing again
     
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  7. chris#2798

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    Hi all, on PS5...should it still just be 49 services for the Pendolino? Sorry if that's already been answered, couldn't see anything further up the thread.
     
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  8. dal#7945

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    All of the numbers you see are wrong same for xbox it shows 49 jobs but if you count them there is over a100 mixture of 9 and 11 car services
     
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  9. glenn#9737

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    I am on ps5 did the update we get today and its all crash after startup wcmls journey
     
  10. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    In terms of freight, matt did say some is locked behind the upcoming gameplay pack and the rest requires memory optimizations to be added
     
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  11. MJCKP

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    The coupler on the 350 still seems bugged, it can't couple to the ROG 37. It would nice if it got fixed at some point
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. matthewgoddard510

    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

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    Definitley got the game updated? Euston feels lot more busier with 390s than it did before I think.
     
  13. SierraOscar95

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    This isn't in the game so far, but it's something I've recognised in the game. There seems to be a standard ambient sound wherever a location is within a route, countryside and cities seem to share one generic sound.

    Could I make a suggestion? In TSC urban environments seem to have a urban ambient background noise that is busy, noisy and distinctive to a city. Would it be possible moving forward to implement a similar ambient background noise to busy areas?

    One of the first things I noticed around Euston is how deadly quiet it is outside. With a building site next to it too!

    More of a constructive criticism going forward.
     
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  14. matthewgoddard510

    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

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    I did expierence a lot of lag on my 390 service 1R15 I think it was and I crashed after passing the 55MPH sign nearing London Euston in the Tunnel.
    I am on PS5. Seem to have some Memory issues, equivalent to BML where carriages arent showing up and very laggy and big frame drops. Also When i passed the 55MPH into the Tunnel going towards Euston the game crashed. I did mention in in the TSC Discord but got ignored. So hopefully putting it in here helps.
    Mainly Entering Watford-Euston the frame rate dropped heavily.
     
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  15. matthewgoddard510

    matthewgoddard510 Well-Known Member

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    Yes! I have had the exact same thing with the 390 being really slow getting to 125 even with Boost mode on
     
  16. leewood83

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    Done service 2C36 I think to Euston with 710 and frame rate on PS5 was horrific and crashed after I opened the doors upon arrival at Euston.
     
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    I would like know if this was actually tested before release because if it was how come none of the testers didn't find any off these issues
     
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  18. rennekton#1349

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    Testers find bugs. It's up to dtg to prioritize which ones to fix when
     
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  19. dal#7945

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    If the testers found as many bugs and problems as we all did then why on earth did they release the up knowing this
     
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  20. NorthLondoner125

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    It has indeed increased the amount of playable services for both the Class 390 and the 710, however the AI services are absent. (These AI services would not be playable since those Avanti services don't call at either Watford Junction or Milton Keynes)
     
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  21. vendys#6021

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    Hi Matt, when I read about texture blurring here, is my general assumption that Dostos coaches can do this on German maps partially true?
     
  22. samuelpower2001

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    Is this route decent now post update
     
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    Tried a 350 run (on PS5) from Tring, had a few good things to say on the update, but then crashed on approach to Euston.

    Personally I think that the bare minimum of testing should be that whatever DTG publish, it should be capable of completing a run from one end of a route to another. This beta level software is getting irritating.

    Back onto the shelf for this route.
     
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  24. matthewgoddard510

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    Also I want to state the xx:30 London Euston to Glasgow Central trains show the wrong stops on some of the services. (these services will be AI only)
    05:30 service is correct with all stops and timings!-Realtime Trains | 1S37 0531 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    07:30 Service is included but shows wrong stops it is Non stop to Warrington Bank Quay and doesn't stop at Rugby and Crewe but on the game it says it does, also it states on the game departs at 07:31 but it should depart at 07:30-Realtime Trains | 1S42 0730 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    08:30 Service 1S45 is missing.-Realtime Trains | 1S45 0830 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    09:30 service says it stops at Rugby and Crewe but it is Non stop to Warrington Bank Quay- Realtime Trains | 1S48 0930 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    10:30 Service is missing-Realtime Trains | 1S52 1030 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    11:30 Service is Missing- Realtime Trains | 1S58 1130 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    12:30 service is missing-Realtime Trains | 1S63 1230 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    13:30 service is missing-Realtime Trains | 1S69 1330 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    14:30 Service is Missing- Realtime Trains | 1S72 1430 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    15:30 service is showing but It has the wrong PIS the old one before the update only showing to MK that it is terminating at. It also states it departs and 1529 but should be 1530.
    16:30 service is showing but wrong stops saying it stops at Rugby and Crewe but is Non-stop to Warrington Bank Quay-Realtime Trains | 1S82 1630 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    17:30 Service is missing-Realtime Trains | 1S90 1730 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    18:30 Service is missing-Realtime Trains | 1S95 1830 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024
    19:30 service is missing.Realtime Trains | 1S98 1930 London Euston to Glasgow Central | 11/12/2024

    NorthLondoner125 Apologies you are absolutely correct, find it a shame that the Avanti services seem to be neglected. Just spent 30 minutes of my time doing this.
    If anyone wants me to find every missing Avanti service I will be happy to, sorry if I sound a bit nit picky, nothing against the devs but when you have 8 services are missing, technically almost 16 services in total because of the train that has to come in to then be that service going back.
    People may hate me for what I have done but in my eyes if you are going to do a route, it should show what it is IRL.
     
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  25. MarkCovz4761

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    Preston to Carlisle runs fine on my series x but this route there's still a bit of stuttering hopefully it gets sorted
     
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  26. Xander1986

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    First of all nobody is hating you for this good and detailed missing description! Its very helpful so thanks for youre message. I have no clue why those are missing so DTG Alex can you give this helpful information to the team?!
     
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  27. DTG Liam

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    I'm not the original timetable dev for this route but when this was made back earlier in the year it's possible these head codes had different stopping patterns. As for missing services, again I didn't make the original timetable so don't have the developers data that they used for reference and what they missed. Instead the time was spent on fixing services and adding content in other areas, such as the freight and rail tours...which I know were cut anyway from this release but once these route crashing issues are fixed we can bring it back in full.
     
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  28. matthewgoddard510

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    Thanks Liam, never meant anything bad. I just want the best and again like I said can’t fault your effort and As I said sounds complicated. I just want to help as best I can.
    Thank you Liam.
     
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  29. DTG Liam

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    No worries I completely get where you were coming from :)
    I wish they were there too but without the data it was such a web of "Well if this train is there then why is this service missing?".
     
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    New bugs to point out in the 350 (ps5 post-update new timetable)

    -DRA doesn’t light up when active
    -Panto/VCB switch is permanently lit up
    - Sometimes DC sounds play in AC mode and the power change over doesn’t seem to work (in timetable mode)
     
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  31. DTG Harry

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    Hey folks, I'm having some difficulty navigating this thread due to the conflicting info. It seems some Xbox users have received the update, some haven't, some PS5 users haven't got the updated services etc. so I'm just going to ask a couple of questions so I have something to take to dev. For the below, please make sure you add your platform and keep it on topic.

    First of all, can you let me know if you're an Xbox Series X/S user that has had the update with the included timetables? Your version number for the WCML update should be:
    1467 for Series X/S

    There should be (with all relevant add-ons) 941 services.

    Next, if you're a PS5 user that has had the update that came out today at around 12:30pm GMT, but the additional services are still missing, please let me know but also let me know how many services you do have. Your version number for WCML should be:
    1.011 for PS5

    For crashes around Euston; this has been an ongoing issue since launch that we're still working on. It isn't a simple fix for this one. That being said, if crashes are worse, please let me know. Thank you for your patience while our team works on this.

    If you haven't had an update at all, please make sure you check your update queue. If it isn't there, check your version number (as you might have auto-updates switched on). If you still don't have it, do a hard reset on your console. This involves quitting out of the game fully (making sure it isn't on quick start) and fully powering off your console.
     
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  32. SierraOscar95

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    Just to note for Harry, any of my comments are based on the PS5 platform.
     
  33. Mikey_9835

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    I'm on PS5 and have the new timetable however my first service departing Euston crashed doing the 9S44 service on the 390
     
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    9P47: London Euston to Blackpool North resulted in an immediate SPAD
     
  35. matthewgoddard510

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    Hi DTG Harry I put it in again to stop you scrolling through. Doing 1R15 390 was very slow getting up to speed even with Boost mode. Nearing Watford Junction Getting heavy frame drops and then between Watford and London Big memory issues, AI trains not showing up or carriages missing. Then In the tunnel after the 55MPH speed limit game crashes.
    PS5 and it is the correct version update.
     
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  36. dal#7945

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    Hi Harry I on xbox series x update is 1467 that's the only update I got for this route 4.5gb and I 793 services
     
  37. rysgaming#8234

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    I not received any update since yesterday xbox series s
     
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    How do you know what version it is im on xbox series x sorry if i sound amateur lol
     
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    How did u find it out ?
     
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    Hello im on xbox series X and i think my version says 1.1429 if thats it
     
  41. MarkCovz4761

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    I had the update yesterday for xbox series x I have 792 services isnt there meant to be about 800
     
  42. selocssor

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    Does anyone know how to find out your version of an update im on Xbox series X ?
     
  43. DTG Harry

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    Scroll over/highlight the game on your home page, press the button with 3 lines (the 'burger' button), select manage game and add-ons and it will be on the tile. Will likely look like this:
    upload_2024-12-11_16-29-59.png

    (Sorry - my TSW5 game is on my PC so this is just an example.)

    Make sure to specifically check WCML South add-on and not the TSW5 core game.
     
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    Loving the new timetable — makes the world feel much busier and it’s great to see 8/12 car 350s. Thank you.

    A few observations / bugs (?)
    - Trains arrive at stations early but don’t open their doors for a while, e.g. 1R03 arrived into MKC at 06:50 and didn’t open its doors until 06:52. 9S44 arrived pretty much at the same time and opened the doors immediately. 1R05 also sat around MKC with the doors shut for 30-45 seconds.
    - On board PIS doesn’t show the correct next stops, e.g. 1R05 Coach C PIS said “Next stop Manchester” when the train was going to Euston.
    - Some Pendo outside door screens are wrong, e.g. 1H03 leaves WFJ at 07:03, next stop MKC, the Pendo door has 07:23 as the departure time.
    - Sometimes open map and cannot get out or move the cursor
    - A minority of Pendos still have destination as MKC on the departure screens, e.g. 1F12 / 9P47 should say Liverpool and Blackpool North respectively, the departure boards at Euston say “MiltonKyns”
     
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  45. Mikey_9835

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    I noticed some slowdowns when a creators club livery spawns in so I'll have to get rid of it. It's a shame because it was the Pride Pendolino, and it was well made. I remember similar issues happening with the 801.
     
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  46. TrackingTrains

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    PS5:
    Seems to be more stuttering throughout the route.

    Seems speed set command for 390 only applicable to PC? Unfortunately doesn’t seem to be one on PS yet.

    No way to reset vigilance on 390 prior to it sounding. Vigilance can be reset by pressing O button on controller on other trains, such as 801.

    Agree with comments that the 390 seems to take longer than before to get up to speed.

    Good update though on the whole, DC lines seem much busier.
     
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    Yeah sadly they broke things when releasing patches, I was so hyped but it’s like mistakes are never learned. Hope the next one will fix broken stuff only.

    I forgot to add that I crash a lot when arriving at Euston, especially next to the underpass tunnel of the Overground section. I have to avoid this route now which is a shame as I like it a lot. (I’m on PS5)
     
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  48. selocssor

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    Ok thank you i have found it says 1.1467 i think the services i got is 794 altogether
     
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  49. TrackingTrains

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    Just gone through Harrow and Wealdstone in 1F11 390/0. Very heavy stuttering, and only a 350, 1972 stock and my train so unsure why. (PS5)
     
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