Route Wcml Preston To Carlisle - Feedback Thread

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  1. Midnight

    Midnight Well-Known Member

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    Timetable 0A62 Works fine on XBOX Series S.

    You should have been stopped by ground signal PN93 until the AI locomotive had cleared the junction.

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    Did signal PN93 not stop you for some reason?

    You did actually see the ground signal, right? :)
     
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  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't the session end immediately after passing a red signal?
     
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  3. Midnight

    Midnight Well-Known Member

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    0A75 also works perfectly on XBOX Series S.

    There are ZERO other trains that you could possibly have had a collision with, as the line is completely clear from start to finish.


    Whatever you have been drinking over Christmas, can I have some too?

    Sounds like it's really good stuff. :D
     
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  4. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    I'm on PC and the signal did not stop me.
     
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  5. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    In other news, finally managed a run in the 87 from Preston to Carlisle tonight without falling foul of any neutral zones or overshooting platforms! Every other trip has seen the aforementioned happened at least once.
    The diagram of neutral zone locations has been very handy, but also finally starting to remember where they are.
     
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  6. Midnight

    Midnight Well-Known Member

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    In that case, we just need to see if anyone can recreate the bug on PlayStation... Otherwise it's a PC specific bug.
     
  7. samuelpower2001

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    Guard mode is bugged. Played 1M05 and a Pacer service. There's no opening doors (okay maybe the driver does this but it tells you to unlock them). It also puts you nowhere near the train. It doesn't actually help matters with trying to find which train you are meant to be on.

    On 1M05 it told me to ensure all doors are shut. I did. Then pressed buzzer twice which it instructed me. Then told me the scenario failed as the guard left the train.

    On the Pacer service it told me to close doors but did it automatically then told me to check tickets and after to wait for next stop. The train never moved!
     
  8. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Can't seem also to get the 87 handle into reverse. Only goes forward and off.
     
  9. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Near the reverser, there's a button you need to press called reverse lock. The 87 won't go into reverse unless you press that button.
     
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    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Where is that. I should have studied the manual a bit more?
     
  11. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Also as said elsewhere there is sometimes clashes with having the dpad buttons assigned to two different functions..
     
  12. Phil47569

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    If you look at the metal "block" that has the reverser on it, there is a button slightly below and to the left of the reverser :)
     
  13. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    The arrow shows the button that needs to be pressed in order to allow you to reverse. Hope it helps.
     
  14. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Good idea.
     
  15. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Can't view the image
     
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    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    Stupid permissions issue, should work now.
     
  17. samuelpower2001

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    Excellent. Thankyou
     
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  18. SGTDRE

    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    Also, you need to Accept ALL Cookies to see Videos posted and I think images also.
     
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  19. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    No, it was permissions. I'd put it into an album only I can view, so I just had to move it to a public one.
     
  20. SGTDRE

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    I understand that it is also the way the Forum works if you don't accept all cookies you will not see videos posted and I just tested in another browser where I'm not logged in, and images were able to be viewed, but that can be because I excepted all cookies.
    Also before you changed permissions I was able to view your image with the Red arrow.
     
  21. Sharon E

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    I am on pc and did not have a problem. Just after starting, the AI locomotive passed on my left. That ground signal was showing a stop aspect as well as the HuD was showing it as red. It cleared as I was coming to a stop and finished the service.
     
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  22. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Just completed 1S74. The run itself went smooth.

    However, I returned to free roam to do the following light loco move with the 87 (not accessed from the menu). All I could do was move the throttle and brake. I could press the reverse lock button, but the reverser wouldn't move (even with throttle off).

    Had to abandon it as I couldn't do anything else except go forward.
     
  23. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The above run (0S45), for me anyway, after the first shunt, brought everything to a stand.
     
  24. solicitr

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    Is the vigilance system on the 87 prototypical?

    On every other British loco in TSW, the alerter is interlocked with the driving controls, so that if you move the throttle or brake lever the timer resets- it's designed to go off if 60 seconds have passed without driver input. And on every loco regardless of nationality, hitting the acknowledge button/pedal resets the timer.

    But on the Class 87, it seems to go off no matter what, even if I'm in the middle of a rundown/brake dance. Is this correct to the original, or a bug?
     
  25. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    Old style alerter system, it goes off every 60 sec independent of any control movement.
     
  26. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I think it is, yeah. Doesn't make it any less annoying though.
     
  27. Phil47569

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    Indeed however unlike on the Class 50 IRL you can't just "rest" the timer by lifting your foot of the deadman's for a second, learnt that trick early on when pulling into a station on a rising gradient with vac brakes and 8, reset that pedal first so you don't have to worry about that distracting you ;)
     
  28. maccagee#4924

    maccagee#4924 Well-Known Member

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    It did at first, but doesn't bother me now,.
     
  29. samuelpower2001

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    Sometimes with the quick tapping,when quick tapping down it goes straight to off. And does not help reverser handle is assigned to same button
     
  30. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Additionally at Carlisle you seemingly upon getting out of cab can't get back in from platform. I had to use trackside to get back in.
     
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    Don’t think that’s true for some East German SIFAs. They only react when the light comes on.
     
  32. Phil47569

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    The tap-changer has several settings, off / run down / notch down / hold / notch up / run up, if you are accidentally pushing it into "off" when trying to go a few notches down try using "run down" instead, unlike "run up" it won't spring back to hold and will stay in notch down until you move it. Obviously in real life it would be harder to accidentally push the lever to far but all we have are buttons ;) Can you not change the control mapping regarding the reverser? I am assuming you are on a console?

    Yeah that can happen at a few places, I think it is the track level combined with the loco's suspension in relation to the platform. It only seems to be an issue in certain parts of a platform (so track level is most likely to blame). The way I've found to deal with it is if you aim your pointer towards the bottom of the steps it will say "climb up" and if you go for it, it will let you climb the one step into the cab :)

    *Not affiliated with JT/DTG/AP/BBC/ITV or anyone else, just trying to help :)
     
  33. samuelpower2001

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    Yes. I tried the climb up thing didn't work.

    And also the quick step thing I should clarify is the button assigned to the dpad. It should just go from hold to notch down. It doesn't always.
     
  34. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Also don't know why but when I was departing a station or two with 87 and going into notch up or run up the ammeter guage would drop the needle back down as if wheel slipping.

    No wet conditions at all. And at same time the brakes would also come on. I at one point couldn't get above 80 percent power as it kept pushing it back down.
     
  35. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    There's some sort of invisible barrier between platforms 3 and 4 at Preston. Whenever I try and move between the platforms with the external camera I get booted to above the roof of the station.
     
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    (Sorry, I couldn't stop myself.)
     
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  37. Andy L

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    I suspect the AP version's rheostatic brake is more realistic but can't say for sure, it certainly seems more logical for the tap changer to behave as you describe. I'll check the BR manual and see if there are any cab videos showing what happens as the loco comes to a stand.
     
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  39. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Can't seem to find the tutorials for the class 47 both blackpool branches and this route.
     
  40. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Did you check training center
     
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    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    I did
     
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    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Also went into the route training modules section. Only came up with one training module which was a route introduction
     
  43. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    When doing the shunting manoeuvre of 0S45 at Preston, 2J58 comes along and blocks everything.
     
  44. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    With 08 services I was driving around depot or what not on wcml, some ask you to stop where the marker is in the shed.... the shed doesn't open..so is it incorrectly placed. Surely it should be at entrance
     
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    Also it still recognises when you have completed it as you stop near the shed and not where the marker is.
     
  46. samuelpower2001

    samuelpower2001 Well-Known Member

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    Also just double checked on training centre. All other stock tutorials are included except the class 47 for some reason. No tutorials at all.
     
  47. marcsharp2

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    They are available, I did them a few days ago to see if there were any I missed.

    Go to Train Depot, then Training Modules and your DLCs should then be there.
     
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    I will have a look later today. Could have been because I was tired lol that I missed it
     
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    Wouldn't be the first time for me either lol
     
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    I made this to try and assist, hope this helps anyone else who may run into a similar issue. as it is now it does get a little confusing. Traing Center.png
     

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