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  1. ben#1349

    ben#1349 Member

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    THIS IS OPTION 1 OF 2 OF MY IRISH ROUTES I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST.

    OPTION 1

    Dublin Coastal Commuter:

    This route is one of Ireland's busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Drogheda via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 58.4mi (94.1km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.

    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford and Belfast which are run by DMUs and Loco Hauled trains respectively. I understand three locomotives is a lot for one route but it was made possible for Nadvehkehr Dresden.

    Locos:
    Class 8100 EMU:
    A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.

    Class 29000 DMU:
    The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

    Class 201 LOCO + De Deitrich Stock:

    These pair are incredibly important to the line as they serve essential Intercity services from Dublin to Belfast and have done so for years. I believe this should be added to have a fair variant of Commuter, Semi-Fast Commuter and Intercity services on the line.

    Another Loco that could be added is the 22000 DMU built by Hyundai Rotem which plays an important role in Intercity and Commuter services.
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  2. sophieclarke1983

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    Absolutely fantastic idea I’m up for anything that welcomes our Irish brothers n sisters into the train sim world eco system as would be fantastic addition
     
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  3. ben#1349

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    I Love UK routes but it would be great to have my local Irish Route put in. Thanks for the enthusiasm
     
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  4. ben#1349

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    THIS IS OPTION 2 OF 2 OF THE IRISH ROUTES I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE. OPTION ONE IS AVAILABLE IN MY CONTENT.

    OPTION 2
    Dublin Coastal Commuter/Dublin Area Rapid Transit (DART)

    This route is one of ireland busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Malahide via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 35.4mi (58.5km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in. This is much shorter than Option 1, Greystones - Drogheda.

    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford which are run by DMUs.

    Locos:
    Class 8100 EMU
    : A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.

    Class 8500 EMU: A newer EMU in Irish Rail built in the early 200s to serve DART services. I believe this should be added along witbt eh other DART train as this route is primarily based on DART.

    Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

    Another Loco that could be added is the 22000 DMU built by Hyundai Rotem which plays an important role in Intercity and Commuter services to Wexford and Greater Dublin respectively.
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  5. sophieclarke1983

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    Your welcome Ben as someone who’s autistic I’m always open to trying new routes and adding more neighbourly countries
     
  6. ben#1349

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    I think it's about time we had and Irish Route. Here is my proposal. I believe this would the best choice for a first route.

    This route is one of Ireland's busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Drogheda via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 58.4mi (94.1km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.

    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford and Belfast which are run by DMUs and Loco Hauled trains respectively. I understand three locomotives is a lot for one route but it was made possible for Nadvehkehr Dresden. This route also has amazing coastal scenery.

    Locos:
    Class 8100 EMU: A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.

    Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

    Class 201 LOCO + De Deitrich Stock:
    These pair are incredibly important to the line as they serve essential Intercity services from Dublin to Belfast and have done so for years. I believe this should be added to have a fair variant of Commuter, Semi-Fast Commuter and Intercity services on the line.

    Another Loco that could be added is the 22000 DMU built by Hyundai Rotem which plays an important role in Intercity and Commuter services.

    PICTURES BELOW OF RELEVANT LOCOS IN ORDER OF LIST.



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  7. ben#1349

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    1. I think it's about time we had and Irish Route. Here is my proposal. I believe this would the best choice for a first route.

      This route is one of Ireland's busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Drogheda via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 58.4mi (94.1km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.

      This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford and Belfast which are run by DMUs and Loco Hauled trains respectively. I understand three locomotives is a lot for one route but it was made possible for Nadvehkehr Dresden. This route also has amazing coastal scenery.

      Locos:
      Class 8100 EMU
      : A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.

      Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

      Class 201 LOCO + De Deitrich Stock:
      These pair are incredibly important to the line as they serve essential Intercity services from Dublin to Belfast and have done so for years. I believe this should be added to have a fair variant of Commuter, Semi-Fast Commuter and Intercity services on the line.

      Another Loco that could be added is the 22000 DMU built by Hyundai Rotem which plays an important role in Intercity and Commuter services.

      PICTURES BELOW OF RELEVANT LOCOS IN ORDER OF LIST.



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    Funny, I just shared shots of a DART electrostar in the facebook group this morning....

    This would be a great route
     
  9. ben#1349

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    I think it's about time we had and Irish Route. Here is my proposal. I believe this would the best choice for a first route.

    This route is one of Ireland's busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Drogheda via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 58.4mi (94.1km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.

    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford and Belfast which are run by DMUs and Loco Hauled trains respectively. I understand three locomotives is a lot for one route but it was made possible for Nadvehkehr Dresden. This route also has amazing coastal scenery.

    Locos:
    Class 8100 EMU:
    A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.


    Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

    Class 201 LOCO + De Deitrich Stock:
    These pair are incredibly important to the line as they serve essential Intercity services from Dublin to Belfast and have done so for years. I believe this should be added to have a fair variant of Commuter, Semi-Fast Commuter and Intercity services on the line.

    Another Loco that could be added is the 22000 DMU built by Hyundai Rotem which plays an important role in Intercity and Commuter services.

    PICTURES BELOW OF RELEVANT LOCOS IN ORDER OF LIST IN A REPLY.
     

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    it would be nice but i dont think we will be seeing different gauges,
     
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    The new Japanese route is different gauge. Same with the Arosalinie and the new berninalinie swiss routes
     
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    really? i dont actually own them so i wouldnt know lol
     
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    oooh, nice one and I kinda like the trains/locos... do Irish use UK signalling and such or is it different? I know they use different gauge
     
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    The signalling is slightly different bit would be very similar. Like same signals just a different saftey system. CAWS
     
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    Dublin Coastal Commuter/Dublin Area Rapid Transit (DART)
    This route is one of ireland busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Malahide via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 35.4mi (58.5km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.

    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford which are run by DMUs.

    Locos: (I understand it may not be possible to add all of these)
    Class 8100 EMU
    : A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.

    Class 8500 EMU: A newer EMU in Irish Rail built in the early 200s to serve DART services. I believe this should be added along with the other DART train as this route is primarily based on DART. Again, I understand not being able to add too many different trains.

    Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

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    Dublin Coastal Commuter/Dublin Area Rapid Transit (DART)
    This route is one of ireland busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Malahide via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 35.4mi (58.5km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.
    Screenshot_20250306_220401_Chrome.jpg
    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford which are run by DMUs.

    Locos: (I understand it may not be possible to add all of these)
    Class 8100 EMU: A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.

    Class 8500 EMU: A newer EMU in Irish Rail built in the early 200s to serve DART services. I believe this should be added along with the other DART train as this route is primarily based on DART. Again, I understand not being able to add too many different trains.

    Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide

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  18. ben#1349

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    I think it's about time we had and Irish Route. Here is my proposal. I believe this would the best choice for a first route.

    This route is one of Ireland's busiest rail routes with a range of services including DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit), Commuter and Intercity services. The route I have proposed follows from Greystones - Drogheda via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 58.4mi (94.1km) (Including the 5.5km Howth Branch) which is not at all crazy long, also as its a city route I understand detail has to be put in.
    Screenshot_20250306_220629_Chrome.jpg
    This route has a range of services including DART services serving all stops from Greystones to Malahide / Howth on the 1.5kv Electrified lines, Commuter services served by DMUs on unelectrified lines and Intercity services to Wexford and Belfast which are run by DMUs and Loco Hauled trains respectively. I understand three locomotives is a lot for one route but it was made possible for Nadvehkehr Dresden. This route also has amazing coastal scenery.

    Locos:
    Class 8100 EMU: A historic EMU in Irish Rail built in 1980s to serve DART services and still does to this day. I believe this should be added as opposed to other Classes because of the nostalgiac feel to it. It also a lovely train.
    20241015_144823_032.jpg

    Class 29000 DMU: The class 29000 Is a DMU built by CAF in the early 2000s. This train runs Commuter services from Dublin to Drogheda and other Commuter Routes. This DMU would be essential as it is the workhorse of the uneleftrified track after Malahide
    20241106_130426_022.jpg

    Class 201 LOCO + De Deitrich Stock:
    These pair are incredibly important to the line as they serve essential Intercity services from Dublin to Belfast and have done so for years. I believe this should be added to have a fair variant of Commuter, Semi-Fast Commuter and Intercity services on the line.
    20250305_154427.jpg 20241029_085909_062.jpg
    Another Loco that could be added is the 22000 DMU built by Hyundai Rotem which plays an important role in Intercity and Commuter services.
     
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    I really believe it's time for an Irish Route to be added. I have suggested it many times and probably won't hesitate to continue ;) After last night's Roadmap stream, I have decided to provide a LAMPOIL Process for DTG so they can clearly see all about this route. Beforehand I will describe the route then afterwards I will list the locomotives.

    Dublin Area Rapid Transit:
    Greystones - Malahide via Dublin City Centre + Howth Branch Line. The entire route is a length of 35.4mi (58.5km)

    This route is an incredibly important route in Irish Railways. Operated by Irish Rail (the national rail company), a scenic coastal route on the southern end followed by Dublin City Centre and then onto suburban North Dublin to finish at the coastal town of Malahide. Running through he capital, the route is served by DART (Dublin Area Rapid Transit) services which originate at Malahide/Howth on the North end of the route and terminate at Bray/Greystones on the southern end. DART services are the only services on the island run by EMUs. The other kind of service available on the route is Commuter services which run from Dublin City Centre and Drogheda (some peak Services run to/from Bray). Intercity Services run from Dublin Connolly down south through Bray and Greystones to the southwest. Many AI services would run from Connolly Station also. These services are run by 2 different DMUs. Primarily the CAF Built class 29000. ONTO THE LAMPOIL PROCESS NOW.

    Liscence:
    Unfortunately, as there not being an Irish Route yet in-game, an Irish Rail liscence has not been obtained yet. On the upside, Irish Rail are incredibly helpful and supportive of the community and provided a liscence IS obtained, an expansion into other Irish routes can be done.

    Anticipation:
    There is a large Irish community here that play TSW and is quickly growing. All Irish players would be delighted to see an Irish Route with the scenic route and nostalgiac rolling stock. Also, players of other nations are always happy to try out a busy Commuter route.

    Mix:
    There is a diverse range of services and possibilities on this route. Cross-City EMU Services, Commuter DMU services, and Intercity DMU services which if an extension as far as Drogheda were possible (creating an end to end journey for Commuter Services) could be applied on the northern line also.

    Prominence:
    This route is incredibly prominent as its set in the capital city of Ireland, a well-known country in Western Europe. The city is one of Ireland most famous locations. I also believe it would be perfect as the first Irish DLC.

    Opportunity:
    With an Irish Rail liscence, the opportunity for expanding across the Island would be endless. Coastal routes are excellent to play and as a bonus. With Irish gauge added. The UK nation of Northern Ireland could also be added.

    Intelligence:
    This route followed many important locations and landmarks. Aviva Stadium as a large sport stadium south of the city centre in which the line runs through (Landsdowne Road Station) which creates opportunity for fun Scenarios. Same with the annual Bray Air Show. Also, various events in Dublin increase traffic in Central stations.

    Limitations:
    Unfortunately, due to historical stubbornness, Irelands railways are non-standard gauge at 1600mm rather than 1435mm. This creates an absence of free-mode opportunities to mix trains with other routes. Various Swiss routes and the upcoming Tadami Lins proves that non-standadd gauge can be implemented into the game.

    I really hope my detailed LAMPOIL Process was helpful in describing the diversity, opportunities and fun that this route could bring to the game. Below I will describe the locomotives that can be added. Though I'll name two of the EMUs. One is sufficient if it's unrealistic to add both.

    Class 8100 EMU:
    Built in the 80s, this nostalgiac EMU is an incredible train which has ran on this route since 1984 when DART was founded. It would be absolutely necessary to add this over any other train.
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    Class 8600 EMU:
    Built in the early 2000s, this EMU is the 2nd EMU which runs this route and is part of the only 2 that serve Ireland's railways. This train is a bit more modern and would add a bit of diversity to the timetable mode.
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    Class 29000 DMU:
    This DMU, built in the early 2000s by CAF, is the diesal workhorse of Dublin and surrounding counties. Its an absolute neccesity to add this along with at least 1 EMU to ensure diverse playable services are available.
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    I hope that I have convinced some of the developers to consider an Irish Route. Thank you for Reading
     
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    Wasn't this been suggested multiple times now by different people.
     
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    I suggest it like every 2 weeks lol.
     
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    Doenst help tbh
     
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    Well they might not check suggestions often so when they so it won't be far down the pile for them to see
     
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    Sounds pretty good. I would love to see some Irish routes. We got Wales eventually so Ireland might be later down the road.
     
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    Yeah exactly! Can't wait for the Welsh route
     
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    Good morning,

    We truly appreciate your enthusiasm for this route and the detailed suggestion you’ve provided. However, we kindly ask that you please adhere to our forum guidelines (found here) by avoiding the repeated posting of the same topic, as it can be considered spam.

    I will merge your recent posts on this topic into the same thread, so comments from other users don't get lost.

    If you have any additional suggestions, we would love to hear them, just please try to keep them to a single post. Thank you for your understanding.

    All the best,
    Jan
     
  27. OldVern

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    Well I will always remember Irish railways in the classic diesel loco hauled era. 071’s on Dublin to Cork, Tralee, Galway and Westport. Back to back 121’s on the Dublin to Rosslare line. 001’s, 141’s and 181’s on the various secondary services, some still using the wooden bodied Park Royal coaches. Away from the Dublin to Cork main line, most routes were still laid with jointed bullhead rail, too. Happy travels!
     

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