Road Map Train Sim World 5 Roadmap: February 2025

Each train is its own separate entity. So the old 111 and new 111 will be completely separate from each other

 

i think the santa fe c40-8w is the same one as csx one but numberboards are over the windows. the hose is very similar to csx one and the plow too.

 

The new London Overground screenshots look very good, shows how much life could be spend to a route with some love and effort. Same is for Mittenwaldbahn.
On the other hand you have Ludwigsbahn where you need another route for scenery (!) of trams. I like the idea of adding trams to cities where they meet the route, there are other routes where this would bring new life to routes. But why is there a need of a Scot route to have trams in Germany. But, and that's also part of that - we have one model here, that does not fit to the area, not in type, not in color. Little more effort could make this even better (that's like the Citaro Facelift (new in 2006) on the Left Rhine in the 1990s.
Santa Fe pack looks really good, but I'm not in US Freight and don't like Cajon Pass.

 

With regard to the trams, if we can have AI why not go a step further and make them driveable, so we don’t need to buy flawed CTS? Also this kind of goes against DTG’s own argument when people suggested cut down AI train models to populate routes like BCC and Cathcart in that nearly as much effort had to go into making a static or AI train that would bear inspection close up, as one you could actually drive.

 

Its meant to replicate the EuroDuplex which I have seen in real life in Koln hbf

 

It is meant to represent Thalys, I asked Joe once on the forum. Duplexes have never been to Cologne in regular service AFAIK.

 

That ICM koploper looks amazing. Specially the cockpit which almost look like a spaceship. I like the fact that the view is higher but also very wide cause of all the windows

 

SNG:
https://nvbs.com/wp/shared/content/uploads/2020/02/20190507-3261-nicospilt-1024x623.jpg

 

Please change the lighting at Cardiff Central. In real life the lights have a very harsh yellow glow, anyone who's been to Central after 5pm knows this.

I don't mean to be cynical, but such a basic detail not being included may show how much research (or rather lack thereof) has gone into this route.

 

An AI tram is literally just a liveried box. A working tram you have to model the inside, the cab and then set up all the physics and scripting. You go from a couple of hours creating an AI model to several weeks, into months for a driveable model.

That said why can't DTG import some tram models from CTS.?

 

Literally unplayable routes until these are fixed. /s

Anyway - expected a roadmap like this, after the season of reveals. Just one new announcement with out any detail seems about right: there is a huge pipeline of things to deliver that were teased for ages now.

• Good updates on all the routes, excited to drive on those. As someone who, you know, doesn't inspect the detailing on seats or the hue of lights on a building, because I am busy driving trains. Any new place in the world I can visit - I am happy to. Love the Koploper, too!
• Happy to see Thomas will be out sooner rather than later, I'm sick of constant posts regarding this DLC.
• High hopes for the 158 timetable, I might pick it up then, as I have withheld for now.
• US loco seems 'meh', but it's my comment about the loco, not the DLC. It's similar to other trains I already have, so there is limited excitement.
• Disappointed that Tadami is likely to have an anniversary of its announcement soon. I appreciate a shorter time to market, and I hope I won't need to wait for years on another JP route.
• Speaking of announcement anniversaries - come on, people the Peak Forest pack was announced in February 2024. If it's taking so long my expectations are growing, and they probably shouldn't.

 

Cts is not their product. They are only publishers

 

Are you willing to pay double the price and wait another year to make trams drivable? They require months of work to make it up to standard and they need licensing and access. Prices would have to double and dev time would be much longer. It's not a simple 5 minute job so they can't just make them fully accessible driveable and simulated

 

And once again what special insight do you have into this process? The physics and sounds are obviously in place and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are animated cabs already.

 

DTG: Thanks for the new Roadmap.

There are several news and details about new DLCs coming.

But I noticed something "strange"...
There were no news at all, about Great Western Express route update!
I looking forward about it.

 

Liam posted in another thread that he is still working on it.

 

Oh I know, but I had to back off on my response as last time I called him out got a moderator warning, so next time probably a week in the naughty corner or off to see the headmaster for the strap!

 

But you know how much they are in the process? It is still months of work to get it to a drivable state and to actually create the real thing. If they just used the generic asset, you would still complain it's not realistic. Physics doesn't exist because it's ai only. There is no simulation elements at all. So are you willing to spend double the amount of money?

 

Despite searching - probably in the wrong place - I still cannot find information regarding Rail Driver compatibility with TSW5. I use Rail Driver every time, but find that I am now opening routes only in TSW4 and below where the controller can be relied upon to work properly. When will a fix ne available for TSW5, because until that day I cannot buy any new routes or locos designed for TSW5 as I know that driving them will be an exercise in total frustration. It was made to work perfectly in TSW4........

 

To save myself some grief I'll just use the ignore list.

 

DTG Alex Sorry for ping but when is the Q&A thread for the Roadmap stream going up, please? Lots of questions incoming…

 

you are correct, they could license the models?

 

I took this picture yesterday at Haren station (which will be in the route DLC). The front of the train is now yellow, for better visibilty. To me, it is a typical modern commuter EMU, which feels simliar to the German BR 425.

 

Certain irony! UK trains have reduced if not removed entirely the requirement for yellow front ends of traction units despite at one time being pretty much the only country to mandate it.

 

They only changed it after a collision with a tractor on an unguarded level crossing. The then newly ordered SNGs were yellow from the start, the existing ones were repainted.

In the meantime, spotters were of course busy tracking down the remaining blue ones

 

Does the Santa Fe gameplay pack include new engine sounds for the locomotives?

 

Also how come there is no news about the first patch for WCML Preston - Carlisle? According to Benedict in the TSC Discord server, he says it has been submitted to DTG for testing and publishing.

 

What else could we see for updates to routes like Cane Creek and Horseshoe besides updated track shadows? Could we see some heavy scenery updates and TOD4 lighting? Those routes are in need of a dire refresh..

 

Watch the stream about it and speaking of Mittenwaldbahn what routes can it's locos layer onto waiting for GWML remaster

 

Curious if there are any plans for the GWR HST and/or Class 166 to layer into the Cardiff City network? Thank you.

 

I expect so, certainly the HST. It'd be odd not to.

 

https://media.tenor.com/UbL8QwS06HIAAAAM/shocked-bruno-tonioli.gif

 

No word on the DB BR 187 though. LOL

 

This was asked about in the TSC Discord with the reply:

 

The old livery for the bombardier is already in san bernardino. No other cab cars are currently used by metrolink other than the one in game. With the F59 we have all the metrolink stock currently used in game aside from the stadler unit that does short runs past san bernardino

 

Does the silver one is an old livery? Damn, I thought the white livery is an old one. Which is in use nowadays, but it's not in the game. So I don't understand your statement that "everything is there, leave DTG alone"

As you may have noticed, this train has 3 different liveries. I'm asking for at least the second one. Is that too much to ask?

 

Yeah, the White one with blue stripes is technically the only one we are missing (Aside from special wraps and one off white ribbon one)

White Bi-Level behind the Rotem Cab car


Grey Ribbon with the 1 off white ribbon car


The newest paint scheme

 

the second one IS in game. just the not the old white and blue one. I forgot they had that one so in a way your statement is fair. But I dont get the comment about the cab car as no other cab cars are used by metrolink. the bombardier one retired a while ago

 

I dont know if this is the one you were refferring to when you said the "second one" but it is indeed in the game already

 

By "second" I mean any other then gray.
About cabcar. I just thought that with F59PHR we will get the second (old) timetable, when both types of cabcars were still in use.

 

Which doesn't make any sense tough, because when the Bi-Level cabcars were still active, they were still F59PHs, not PHR's, and had a different paint job.

 

Out of interest:
Would it be easy to notice that the locos are PH’s and not PHR’s?

 

I've spend like 10 secs in Google.

As you may see it's the fully white loco with the full set of Bombardier cars.

 

But its most likely a PH, not PHR so.....

 

Yes, the 860 does not seem to be one of the PHs that were rebuilt into the PHR

 

Does the engine was fully replaced? Different sounds and different acceleration? The only information I see is emissions reduction.

 

Cabs are slightly different, PH's had a brownish finish, compared to the black seen in game.



There isn't enough info on the prime mover though, some say it was replaced by MPI with a T-2 compliant engine, others just say emissions equipment.

 

OK then, if it's really requires some additional work rather than delete one letter in name.
But the white livery for Bombardier cars would not take too much time and effort from DTG.

 

Has the release date for F59 been announced yet? Or have I missed it.

 

release will be on the 20th